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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:17 am
by T3
In post 450, Pearofclubs wrote:
In post 448, Not_Mafia wrote: Except there's no rolefishing cos he's not asking people to claim if they are a jailkeeper, just that they did not jail a scum read, you're experienced enough to know this
Even narrowing that much info down is +scum as they can potentially intuit roles based on people claiming what they
aren't
.
No one is claiming their role, you can clearly see the town benefit to this in a newbie, it's disingenuous to say otherwise[/quote]

It's reasonable to be somewhat suspicious of T3 in this moment, I think.
They joined in time to see the Norwee wagon growing strong, distanced themselves from it, and hammered with no warning with time left on the clock while lamenting how regrettable it was.
That said, I'm going to need to do another careful reread before I'm comfortable taking any stance. Doubting myself pretty hard rn.

As an aside, you're putting in more effort here than I would've thought, N-M.

Pedit: Another perfectly reasonable explanation. I'll have to think on it.[/quote]
I like this post.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:24 am
by lendunistus
Newbie 2061 - Votecount 2.1


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Votecount
Samawoodo (3):
iN3krO, Meuh, Not_Mafia
marcistar (1):
T3
Not Voting (4):
Pearofclubs, Samawoodo, catboi, marcistar

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate a player.

Deadline:
(expired on 2021-04-26 22:00:00)


Vote historyT3 votes iN3krO: Post #435
iN3krO votes Samawoodo: Post #436
Not_Mafia votes catboi: Post #440
Meuh votes Samawoodo: Post #470
T3 votes marcistar: Post #471
Not_Mafia votes Samawoodo: Post #473

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:31 am
by T3
Meuh and NM ar hard townreads. Meuh is actively contributing, giving reasons and there were quite a few bad votes on NM yesterday.
Pear is town for showing a solvey attitude and willingness to consider others POV while giving valid reasoning.
I am town becuase I am.
catboi is leanscum. It seems to me like all catboi is doing here is justifocations and excuses.
Sama has not soneanything, we wait for the replacement and see.
in3 is leanscum for the reasons outline in Meuh's post.
marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.

Sama is not a good vote for today.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 6:49 am
by Meuh
why is sama at e-2 lmao the day just started UNVOTE: cause that makes me uncomfortable :cool:

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 7:39 am
by marcistar
In post 477, T3 wrote:marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.
Tone is just like... general vibes from my wording..? I'm not faking that, but if you think so I can't really fight back against that.
How exactly am I questioning jailkeeper results? Where does it say they get told "x is scum"? From what I see, they can protect who they chose against a NK, and also they can roleblock so it can be either of those? If it's even a jailkeep we're dealing with (: But thats from my understanding, if it works otherwise I wouldn't know.
Wdym without any real reads..? I remember giving reads before.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:33 am
by Pearofclubs
In post 477, T3 wrote:Meuh and NM ar hard townreads. Meuh is actively contributing, giving reasons and there were quite a few bad votes on NM yesterday.
Pear is town for showing a solvey attitude and willingness to consider others POV while giving valid reasoning.
I am town becuase I am.
catboi is leanscum. It seems to me like all catboi is doing here is justifocations and excuses.
Sama has not soneanything, we wait for the replacement and see.
in3 is leanscum for the reasons outline in Meuh's post.
marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.

Sama is not a good vote for today.
I'll contribute more in a little bit, but for now I just wanted to point out that I agree about Sama.

He really wasn't enough of a read before switching out, so we really ought to give their replacement a chance first.

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:08 pm
by Meuh
Yeah I think once the replacement starts playing we'll be able to get a clearer picture. :cool:

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:40 pm
by catboi
In post 459, T3 wrote:I feel like there's a lot of noise but no actual discussion.
catboi is towny.
We should look in the Norwee voters.
In post 477, T3 wrote:Meuh and NM ar hard townreads. Meuh is actively contributing, giving reasons and there were quite a few bad votes on NM yesterday.
Pear is town for showing a solvey attitude and willingness to consider others POV while giving valid reasoning.
I am town becuase I am.
catboi is leanscum. It seems to me like all catboi is doing here is justifocations and excuses.
Sama has not soneanything, we wait for the replacement and see.
in3 is leanscum for the reasons outline in Meuh's post.
marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.

Sama is not a good vote for today.
This is an abrupt shift from you for me being inactive for a short period of time. I don't think it's scummy from you, but I don't think you should jump to hasty conclusions based on recency bias. I'm still wary but I don't think you take the approach you have as scum here.

I'm coming around to agreeing on your view on Meuh. I still think pear is more likely town that's trying their best. in3/sama/n_m are all very uncertain to me because of lack of content.

marcistar wrote:
In post 477, T3 wrote:marci is scum for a general faked tone, questioning jailkeeper results, and fluffing without any real reads.
Tone is just like... general vibes from my wording..? I'm not faking that, but if you think so I can't really fight back against that.
How exactly am I questioning jailkeeper results? Where does it say they get told "x is scum"? From what I see, they can protect who they chose against a NK, and also they can roleblock so it can be either of those? If it's even a jailkeep we're dealing with (: But thats from my understanding, if it works otherwise I wouldn't know.
Wdym without any real reads..? I remember giving reads before.
I don't like that marcistar's post here is entirely defensive in nature. I had issues with how she was reading me/meuh day 1 and in general it does not feel like she's approaching the game to solve it, her posts have been distant in a way.

VOTE: marcistar

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:49 am
by iN3krO
@marcistar (and everyone else tbh), when do you think it's beneficial for the town for a jailkeeper to claim? We don't usually play with jailkeeper in my? our? community...

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:56 am
by T3
What is your community?
Jailkeeper should claim here for a few reasons.
1. If the jailkeeper jailed a scumread then we have caught a mafia.This would then make the game easier.
If you are Doctor or Jailkeeper then you should probably crumb it somehow but only claim if it is MELO. That was wehave at least one confirmed town.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:31 am
by marcistar
In post 482, catboi wrote:I don't like that marcistar's post here is entirely defensive in nature. I had issues with how she was reading me/meuh day 1 and in general it does not feel like she's approaching the game to solve it, her posts have been distant in a way.
If i'm voted, should I not try to defend myself????
How do I seem distant :cry: do you have post examples?
In post 483, iN3krO wrote:@marcistar (and everyone else tbh), when do you think it's beneficial for the town for a jailkeeper to claim? We don't usually play with jailkeeper in my? our? community...
Ahhh, i'm not really sure, but like t3 says they might have a scum caught. I think they should weigh their options though, and not get pressured into claiming. (since afterall they mightve just protected against the nk, its not 100% that they rbed the scum) so I don't wanna pressure them to claim! Let them come out on their own time imo.
I don't get why t3s so insistent on it.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:06 am
by catboi
marci. You're still just responding to things that are said and questioning or talking about theory. I don't see an interest in solving. This is what I mean.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 7:24 am
by Not_Mafia
In post 478, Meuh wrote:why is sama at e-2 lmao the day just started UNVOTE: cause that makes me uncomfortable :cool:
Getting cold feet on that bus?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 10:48 am
by marcistar
In post 486, catboi wrote:marci. You're still just responding to things that are said and questioning or talking about theory. I don't see an interest in solving. This is what I mean.
Huh?? I've been trying to solve :dead: its really hard tho

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:52 pm
by catboi
In post 488, marcistar wrote:
In post 486, catboi wrote:marci. You're still just responding to things that are said and questioning or talking about theory. I don't see an interest in solving. This is what I mean.
Huh?? I've been trying to solve :dead: its really hard tho
Really? What are your reads right now?

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:08 pm
by lendunistus
VFP replaces Samawoodo.

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:59 pm
by Meuh
In post 487, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 478, Meuh wrote:why is sama at e-2 lmao the day just started UNVOTE: cause that makes me uncomfortable :cool:
Getting cold feet on that bus?
Yeah :cry: I'm not that desperate for that juicy towncred :lol:
In post 488, marcistar wrote:
In post 486, catboi wrote:marci. You're still just responding to things that are said and questioning or talking about theory. I don't see an interest in solving. This is what I mean.
Huh?? I've been trying to solve :dead: its really hard tho
Uhh I kinda hate this post from Marci :eek:

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 1:22 am
by VFP
Hello.

I'll be on to post this evening.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:16 am
by T3
New unreadable replacement, same as the old unreadable replacement.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:29 am
by T3
Al marci has been doing is responding to questions about mechanics and not actually trying to solve the game.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:29 am
by Pearofclubs
In post 493, T3 wrote:New unreadable replacement, same as the old unreadable replacement.
That's a bit quick, wouldn't you agree? He's only posted once.

Welcome to the game, VFP! Happy to have another viewpoint in the thread :P

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 6:37 am
by Meuh
VFP + T3 scumteam inbound

the replacements both betraying us :cry:

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:19 am
by VFP
In post 496, Meuh wrote:VFP + T3 scumteam inbound

the replacements both betraying us :cry:
Will it help that I'm putting T3 as town here?

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:28 am
by T3
In post 497, VFP wrote:
In post 496, Meuh wrote:VFP + T3 scumteam inbound

the replacements both betraying us :cry:
Will it help that I'm putting T3 as town here?
I don't think Meuh is serious.

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 7:38 am
by VFP
iN3krO I like as town.
@T3
What's your read here now? is town.