Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:49 am
Are there more people in the neighborhood?
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This is your opening right, 182? I dont see any much stronger reason here.In post 471, nomnomnom wrote:More like the last reason. Reason explained iIn post 470, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:so the wagon affects how "good" the vote is?? Sounds like this is the main reason you're voting for me...In post 452, nomnomnom wrote:Kyouko's just a better vote hereIn post 449, Dwlee99 wrote:Well he didn't just vote, he also pushed others to hop onto the wagon which had the potential to form something bigger. Point taken on him not sticking with it though.In post 445, Nero Cain wrote:it wouldn't change much honestly. Sometimes scum vote each other to distance and it's not like nom stuck to the wagon. Are you implying that nom isn't scum b/c he voted rathe for a hot minute? eh, I guess you could make that argument.considering the wagonand the pt stuff happening in thread
VOTE: nomnomnomn my openingis much stronger, as well as the PT stuff between you and Anya.
In post 276, nomnomnom wrote:Then I'd very much like an explanation for that oneIn post 257, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:It's not an RVS vote btwIn post 182, nomnomnom wrote:my thoughts so far:
getting town vibes from nero, reminds me of the few games I played with him where he was town, nothing out of the ordinary, feeling pretty confident about this one
the mech talk at beginning of thread makes reads messy for me so I ain't touching those, not even with gloves
I don't like these pushes on dwlee and peta, not because of the way it's started, it's just that these pushes on "loud guys" day 1 often don't end well in my experience
I wanna focus on the guys that give me "cruising by" vibes cuz even if one of dwlee/peta is scum it just means other scums are just cruising by, i wanna make this more out of this day 1 than "push confrontational loudmouth"
Out of everything I read I feel rathe's progression is the one that sticks out the most, cruising by posts, non confrontational tone when called scum + joining on popular bandwagon gives me the vibe of scum trying not to gather attention, another worrying fact is people calling the slot scum but not pushing it, I wanna force the issue on this one
VOTE: Rathe
Kyouko's 104 also struck me as bad when there's a bunch of shit happening and going with a rvs-like vote
That's where I'm at right now more or less
now push with me or ur scum kthxbye
VOTE: Kyouko
Idk I'll askIn post 475, T3 wrote:Are there more people in the neighborhood?
are you claiming anya is outright lying about the contents of the PT?In post 414, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In post 397, Anya wrote:oops i just dropped my491 revolverthat i use for cooking betting go into my workshopgun roomso i can get a replacement beforepetapandoesIdk everything in that pt feels like a joke, like anya is crumbing all kinds of different roles but she crumbed traitor first and I think she's just crumbing others now to throw me off. I'm just going to keep an EYE on her tonight and by eye I mean GUNIn post 371, Anya wrote:for the first day it was just me posting in there asking if anyone else was there bc i couldn't tell and also wasn't sure whether everyone in there is town or notIn post 367, nomnomnom wrote:still waiting on whatever happened in that pt, this is important
and then kyouko showed up and started jokingly claiming wolf but in a really weird way it was like he had a guilty conscious and wanted to get it off his chest but try and make it look like a joke
i'll give you a paraphrased example of what he said: "Sup I haven't played scum before but I'm gonna be pocketing you, it's nothing personal and I won't mind if you push me ftr"
and then i questioned him on it and he jokingly deflected and eventually said he was completely joking and he's definitely town but the way he's nervously declaring himself a city dweller feels really weird
We're just danking out in thereIn post 480, petapan wrote:are you claiming anya is outright lying about the contents of the PT?In post 414, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:In post 397, Anya wrote:oops i just dropped my491 revolverthat i use for cooking betting go into my workshopgun roomso i can get a replacement beforepetapandoesIdk everything in that pt feels like a joke, like anya is crumbing all kinds of different roles but she crumbed traitor first and I think she's just crumbing others now to throw me off. I'm just going to keep an EYE on her tonight and by eye I mean GUNIn post 371, Anya wrote:for the first day it was just me posting in there asking if anyone else was there bc i couldn't tell and also wasn't sure whether everyone in there is town or notIn post 367, nomnomnom wrote:still waiting on whatever happened in that pt, this is important
and then kyouko showed up and started jokingly claiming wolf but in a really weird way it was like he had a guilty conscious and wanted to get it off his chest but try and make it look like a joke
i'll give you a paraphrased example of what he said: "Sup I haven't played scum before but I'm gonna be pocketing you, it's nothing personal and I won't mind if you push me ftr"
and then i questioned him on it and he jokingly deflected and eventually said he was completely joking and he's definitely town but the way he's nervously declaring himself a city dweller feels really weird
Generally when I do that, people think I am being funny and not in a good way.In post 410, Nero Cain wrote:We can still get reads by arguing amongst ourselves.In post 403, Titus wrote:I'm sick of this argument. No one is going to persuade anyone else. No one seems to doubt themselves. While I am pro everyone crumb, I don't see myself convincing anyone and its detracting from developing reads.
i think both are scummy, i haven't seen anything from dwlee that felt like cause to unvote so i've kept my vote thereIn post 337, VFP wrote:If anything it feels like your vote should be towards Nero more than Dwlee.In post 287, petapan wrote:yes that's about what i was getting at - bogging things down in some boring "correct" argument is how i'd expect scum to approach someone coming out with a wacky plan to start the day - it's an easy point to make and offers basically nothing. i hit him with my vote for it and didn't like the response.
nero of course is dead set on trying to misconstrue that i was arguing that no one should claim at all in accordance with dgb, which is not what i was trying to say and i don't think someone making an honest reading could get that (except T3, but he's a special case)
With the above it just seems more that players like Dwlee and T3 are mis understanding your view while Nero is using this to push agenda.
I don't think Nero is, and I don't think that this scum read is strong enough to have had Dwlee in the lead votes at this point.
How does Dwlee town react to DGB's plan?
Also, what is the mod information / meta you have?
Assuming this relates to the information you were talking about?
that's not an answerIn post 482, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:We're just danking out in there
Why would this be a thing?In post 478, T3 wrote:Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.
sorta. Though nom isn't attacking any of petas voters (except maybe DW). It's mostly that he made a big deal over getting t3 and DW to vote Rathe and now he's arguing that DW is scum for abandoning the 1v1 with peta and the whole thing just feels planed and manipulated to me. "here let me dangle this other scum read in front oh you." "oh, you actually took the bait, and you're scummy for it!"In post 484, Titus wrote:Is the argument that nomnom is chainsawing for peta?
In post 488, Nero Cain wrote:sorta. Though nom isn't attacking any of petas voters (except maybe DW). It's mostly that he made a big deal over getting t3 and DW to vote Rathe and now he's arguing that DW is scum for abandoning the 1v1 with peta and the whole thing just feels planed and manipulated to me. "here let me dangle this other scum read in front oh you." "oh, you actually took the bait, and you're scummy for it!"In post 484, Titus wrote:Is the argument that nomnom is chainsawing for peta?
This sounds like no matter what nomnom did, you would have found it scummy.In post 489, Nero Cain wrote:though tbf I did accuse him of trying to break up the peta wagon by getting a Rathe wagon going.
okay, listen, dgb. i'm pretty sure your intentions with this are good. but the fact is there's a hol in this. if you tell people to explicitly crumb their targets, the mafia are going to be looking for those crumbs, and by looking at who people are drumbing, they can narrow what type of role that person might be. so i think the idea is seriously flawed and people aren't likely to cooperate anyway. i think moving on is for the best, even though there's guaranteed to be screwiness with the rolesIn post 372, DrippingGoofball wrote:There once was a time when power roles helped the town. Lately, mods are distributing roles in such a way that power roles HURT the town. I spent a whole game fighting townies who thought I was scum for being a vanilla cop (aka "PR hunter" they said) for example. And the neighborhood with two traitors had me see red, because when one is dead, the other "becomes conftown" and here we have role distribution meant to HELP the already informed minority.
Can you guys at least get on board with crumbing your targets, and if you're vanilla,
this i take issue with as well. just because you think the plan is bad, why is it necessarily scum motivated rather than town with a crazy idea? do you think it's typical scum play to propose a way of playing that helps scum openly on page 1 and hope people go along with it? because in my experience that's not something scum typically try to do at allIn post 385, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I think DGB's proposed strat only helps scum, sure maybe it got burned recently but I don't think that's any excuse to call to elim claims and have everyone lay crumbs.
Suggesting that is scummy, and it hasn't done anything to change my mind since
I have no idea, that was just a random thought at the time.In post 487, Titus wrote:Why would this be a thing?In post 478, T3 wrote:Okay, so we know this isn't some bizarre conspiracy where there isn't even a neighborhood.
i've played with dgb a few times recently and am fairly confident on that read, yeah. would i have that read as scum? very possibly. is this a goo case against me? lol fuck no
anya might honestly be doing a bitIn post 307, petapan wrote:i guess the hood is actually real? i assumed anya was doing a bit or something