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In post 465, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Last night (while being in bed), I realized,

Ythan

has only done theory stuff so far. Yes, they are a SE but also a player but instead of playing they're actually teaching everyone so far. If they really take the SE stuff seriously, they should concentrate more about practical stuff (meaning play the game by implementing the theory they have been teaching about), not only focus on correcting the theory talk of others.
That's been said, I think they are scum who are using their SE position as a shield.

UNVOTE: Leaven

VOTE: Ythan

In post 285, Ythan wrote:snip

In post 421, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 211, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 174, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 172, Leaven wrote:UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.

Not at E-1 but at E-2 feels a bit weird to unvote at.

Nope? We have 2 scums remember?

Do you think the scum would out themselves this early?

In post 465, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Last night (while being in bed), I realized,

Ythan

has only done theory stuff so far. Yes, they are a SE but also a player but instead of playing they're actually teaching everyone so far. If they really take the SE stuff seriously, they should concentrate more about practical stuff (meaning play the game by implementing the theory they have been teaching about), not only focus on correcting the theory talk of others.
That's been said, I think they are scum who are using their SE position as a shield.

UNVOTE: Leaven

VOTE: Ythan

In post 426, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 217, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 211, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 174, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 172, Leaven wrote:UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.

Not at E-1 but at E-2 feels a bit weird to unvote at.

Nope? We have 2 scums remember?

First of all the person putting it onto 4 would have to justify it. Then you hammer the hammerer D2 as a matter or policy.

this is my post but better

In post 478, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 426, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 217, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 211, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 174, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 172, Leaven wrote:UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.

Not at E-1 but at E-2 feels a bit weird to unvote at.

Nope? We have 2 scums remember?

First of all the person putting it onto 4 would have to justify it. Then you hammer the hammerer D2 as a matter or policy.

this is my post but better

Do you read my response?

In post 433, Ythan wrote:

In post 427, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 220, Ythan wrote:

In post 218, JamesTheNames wrote:I will not be retracting my claim, nor claiming a PR further down the game.

It sounds like you fail to understand that if you are town this narrows down scum's search for potential power roles.

You need to understand that this is wrong before you play real games, for real.

If House were in this game I'd expect him to call this out as proper play scolding, but as he isn't I'll do it instead
this feels like Ythan is more interested in lecturing people than actually sorting them

James is doing a bunch of dumb shit in a newbie game I'm an se in so yeah there's a bit of that. Is it all I'm posting? No it isn't.

actually yes

In post 480, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 433, Ythan wrote:

In post 427, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 220, Ythan wrote:

In post 218, JamesTheNames wrote:I will not be retracting my claim, nor claiming a PR further down the game.

It sounds like you fail to understand that if you are town this narrows down scum's search for potential power roles.

You need to understand that this is wrong before you play real games, for real.

If House were in this game I'd expect him to call this out as proper play scolding, but as he isn't I'll do it instead
this feels like Ythan is more interested in lecturing people than actually sorting them

James is doing a bunch of dumb shit in a newbie game I'm an se in so yeah there's a bit of that. Is it all I'm posting? No it isn't.

actually yes

In post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 305, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 294, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 292, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Btw, if

Leaven

flips red,

StrangeMatter

most likely their partner I think.

Well, you’d be wrong about only this, if he does flip red.

Also, do you have Town reads?

Dan

,

James

,

Val

.

Is it just me or does it feel remarkably like Salsa is trying to pocket Dann? Her reads mirror his a bit

too

much imo.

In post 482, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 442, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 305, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 294, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 292, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Btw, if

Leaven

flips red,

StrangeMatter

most likely their partner I think.

Well, you’d be wrong about only this, if he does flip red.

Also, do you have Town reads?

Dan

,

James

,

Val

.

Is it just me or does it feel remarkably like Salsa is trying to pocket Dann? Her reads mirror his a bit

too

much imo.

In post 447, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 446, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 312, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 306, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 295, Leaven wrote:So if Salsa, Leaven, and James all flip town this game. What are the takeaways.

- With Salsa, scum can freely do anti-town things and even be town-bucketed for it. Furthermore, if people vote that scummy behavior, they will actually be scum-bucketed for it.
- With myself, scum will know they can't easily get away with anti-town things.

What advantage does town get (now or in the future) from laying a red carpet down for scum to freely behave against the interest of town? I'm happy to create an environment that discourages anti-town behavior.

If James was randomly 25% Scum, 25% PR, 50% VT, now I have him at 30% Scum, 5% PR, 65% VT. Still overwhelmingly likely to be VT, but as I've said previously, outside of a better option (which we likely will have in 5 days), my vote lands there.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggg

If you have time, check my meta, will see how townie I am all the time

This is scummy.

Why?
I kinda think it is too, but I don’t think it’s gonna be the same logic as yours.

As far as I'm concerned, if your sole argument is "Look. Meta." as to why you're town, you aren't town.

In post 485, Salsabil Faria wrote:I haven’t said that, you're misinterpreting my thoughts completely.

In post 449, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 447, JamesTheNames wrote:As far as I'm concerned, if your sole argument is "Look. Meta." as to why you're town, you aren't town.

Impressive. It’s not what my logic is, but it definitely blows mine out of the water.
I was thinking the sheer amount of time Salsa was calling stuff “boring” was scummy
Which has a merit to it I think, but the last time I saw someone do the “I’m town because this is my town game” thing they were scum, and someone actually whipped out this exact same point against them

In post 450, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 443, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 441, StrangeMatter wrote:Policy to me should not take priority over your actual reads though.

Leaven has indicated he isn’t really doing that though?

True, but I also noted he said that he'd vote someone else if. The only problem is the last couple posts to me don't come off as someone trying to scum hunt so far, which I still find a little odd, although this might just be their playstyle.

In post 451, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 324, Val89 wrote:I'm still trying to get my head around what her CCing your VT claim means for her alignment

...I would think that’s an obvious troll by Salsa?

In post 489, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 450, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 443, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 441, StrangeMatter wrote:Policy to me should not take priority over your actual reads though.

Leaven has indicated he isn’t really doing that though?

True, but I also noted he said that he'd vote someone else if. The only problem is the last couple posts to me don't come off as someone trying to scum hunt so far, which I still find a little odd, although this might just be their playstyle.

This is hilarious!

In post 492, Ythan wrote:

In post 489, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 450, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 443, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 441, StrangeMatter wrote:Policy to me should not take priority over your actual reads though.

Leaven has indicated he isn’t really doing that though?

True, but I also noted he said that he'd vote someone else if. The only problem is the last couple posts to me don't come off as someone trying to scum hunt so far, which I still find a little odd, although this might just be their playstyle.

This is hilarious!

What is with this string of filler.

In post 457, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 336, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 326, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:

In post 305, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 294, StrangeMatter wrote:

In post 292, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Btw, if

Leaven

flips red,

StrangeMatter

most likely their partner I think.

Well, you’d be wrong about only this, if he does flip red.

Also, do you have Town reads?

Dan

,

James

,

Val

.

Can I hear more about your read on Dann, Salsa?

Yeah, I played with them before + how they're playing here seems townie to me + I can mindmeld with them on some matter, so they're in townblock for now.

Translation: I know how charismatic Dann can be, I know he’s town, and I’m trying to pocket him.

LMAO! I'm not you

In post 458, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 343, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:

In post 332, Salsabil Faria wrote:

What I meant was I openwolfing as town, so if anyone thinks anti-town = pro-scum and eliminate me for that, it’s not necessarily my fault. You need to find agenda behind the behaviour, scum will never act scummy.

In post 283, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 264, Dannflor wrote:townies do outrageously pro-scum things all the time

scum try to look town

^This

i think that both of these seem to contradict eachother. which do you believe more? or am i looking at this wrong

they’re actually kinda the same thought
But they’re both at least somewhat off-base, so the fact you thought they were contradicting was probably sensible, your gut instinct told you something was wrong with them.

Desperately trying to prove me scum, that's interesting... Are you rolled scum?

O my God! I'm trying to pocket

Dann

again

In post 460, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 366, Salsabil Faria wrote:

Read-list:

Town:

James

Val

Dann

Null:

CLSR

Clark

Ythan

Scum:

SM

Leaven

Let’s note despite what I’d call positive interactions with CLSR and Ythan, they’re both still null
These don’t feel like legitimate reads

In post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Salsabil Faria

In post 469, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:

In post 312, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 306, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 295, Leaven wrote:So if Salsa, Leaven, and James all flip town this game. What are the takeaways.

- With Salsa, scum can freely do anti-town things and even be town-bucketed for it. Furthermore, if people vote that scummy behavior, they will actually be scum-bucketed for it.
- With myself, scum will know they can't easily get away with anti-town things.

What advantage does town get (now or in the future) from laying a red carpet down for scum to freely behave against the interest of town? I'm happy to create an environment that discourages anti-town behavior.

If James was randomly 25% Scum, 25% PR, 50% VT, now I have him at 30% Scum, 5% PR, 65% VT. Still overwhelmingly likely to be VT, but as I've said previously, outside of a better option (which we likely will have in 5 days), my vote lands there.

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnngggggggg

If you have time, check my meta, will see how townie I am all the time

This is scummy.

i assumed that salsa was joking because of the laughing emote and constant talking about how anti-town actions do not equal pro-scum, which stems from personal experience more than anything (?)