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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:25 am
by SCP 999
LLD could be town and im just confbiasing myself there - but cakez/zyla feel very teamed rn.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:29 am
by Zyla
You didn't answer my points

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:37 am
by SCP 999
The only thing your points did was make me feel like you slipped LLD unpartnered with you. Which was why i made the LLD appeal post

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:46 am
by Zyla
VOTE: SCP 999

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:49 am
by SCP 999
:lol: wait I thought my slot was town?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:59 am
by Zyla
In post 292, Zyla wrote:SCP - Null
In post 479, SCP 999 wrote::lol: wait I thought my slot was town?
No, you weren't town
You also weren't fully null, but you weren't scummy enough for me to be ready to say null scum

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:07 am
by SCP 999
ah nvm you called infinity town - but strange fypov that you think just because of my interactions with you i have to be scum -

without using my scumread on you as a reason - WHY am i scum zyla?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:10 am
by SCP 999
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12854761

compared to when I encountered you as town - you're shallow as a kiddie pool here - why is this difference here zyla? and you also had a thought process I was able to follow -> here I feel jarring jumps that don't flow together.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:11 am
by SCP 999
me, going to tinfoil galron after considering zyla/LLD unpartnered but seeing their recent posts were just a mindmeld of my view of the game >>>>

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:12 am
by SCP 999
Ok this is a random question for everyone : but who feels that Roden has flown really hard under the radar?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:13 am
by Cephrir
In post 473, Zyla wrote:Towniness isn't based on actions for me, galron and dunn both didn't have bad vibes
Can you elaborate on both parts of this?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:14 am
by SCP 999
right now im back to my bottom 3 PoE of Roden - Zyla - Cakez


and im actually most confident all of a sudden on Roden - but as people are more convinced on Zyla I'm more interested there unless this case I'm about to build lifts off the ground lol.

(essentially - doesnt matter which here)

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:15 am
by Cephrir
In post 484, SCP 999 wrote:Ok this is a random question for everyone : but who feels that Roden has flown really hard under the radar?
Sure. I liked his opening today but that's really the only time I've had a thought about him at all.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:16 am
by SCP 999
(I found something in Roden's meta that is intensely interesting - and I will elaborate in a bit, I'm just trying to go over everyone again holistically to reaffirm/update my reads)

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:18 am
by SCP 999
ok like full honesty i want to switch to roden 100% but like im afraid of people then flipping it as me trying to "save a partner" [zyla] and then like end up mislimming today and then tomorrow is even worse and we snowball into a loss - so i'm being careful trying to make sure we can cooperate - but if people are willing to listen and be convinced, I'd like to shine light on Roden here right now.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:20 am
by Zyla
In post 482, SCP 999 wrote:why is this difference here zyla?
Not as much free time for this game
Not in the same mindset (JK vs [REDACTED])

Not directly related, but since you linked it, I would like to point LLD to the fact that I wasn't 100% serious in that game either. I don't think that joking is particularly alignment indicative for me

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:21 am
by Cephrir
In post 489, SCP 999 wrote:ok like full honesty i want to switch to roden 100% but like im afraid of people then flipping it as me trying to "save a partner" [zyla] and then like end up mislimming today and then tomorrow is even worse and we snowball into a loss - so i'm being careful trying to make sure we can cooperate - but if people are willing to listen and be convinced, I'd like to shine light on Roden here right now.
Obviously I want the information, we can decide what to do afterwards

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:21 am
by SCP 999
ok fk it im impatient lol

Subject: Newbie 2076: Mafia Hideout
Roden wrote:Weird. But yeah I can do that. Bus me if you need to, T3 will probably suspect me since he's seen me steamroll the last two scum games and knows he can't let me fly under the radar.

im still gonna keep reading stuff but - this SUPER stood out as this is confirmation that roden does default to lurky under the radar play as scum.

I'm going to leave the reaction to Roden to see if they deny it before I even bother verifying this - but essentially I think I caught scum lackin and trying to just watch town eat eachother for the most part(this HARDSPEWS infinity town too -> remember that.)

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:22 am
by SCP 999
And in case people are wondering "is koba just trying to pull the lim off of infinity?" yes that is part of my intention and I freely admit it - but its because I don't let my townreads get limmed if i can help it.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:22 am
by SCP 999
fuck it - flashwagon VOTE: Roden

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:23 am
by Zyla
In post 481, SCP 999 wrote:WHY am i scum zyla?
Not ready to make a scum case just yet, but I'm definitely not ignoring the fact that you're currently refusing to answer the points I made

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:27 am
by SCP 999
You know that its not AI for me to refuse to answer things I consider pointless to answer - parse it in a way that is actually good and I'll answer it - i typically only care for queries about my thought process - and also a major part of why I didnt answer was because you assumed I meant someone I wasn't referring to in a post.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:28 am
by SCP 999
Also didn't you yourself say actions=/= scum?

I agree with that type of scumhunting btw - but you also said that so - what's the deeper reason?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:30 am
by Roden
I'm here, sorry for not posting yesterday, I'm running on thirty minutes of sleep and I'm currently taking a trip for a vacation. Though I don't think I'll need to V/LA for any games.

Infinity Zero has a lot of tonal dissonance going on but I agree with 999 that they're probably town. I said this earlier but Gamma in particular feels like how he did in LN 235 where he got tunneled all game and kept getting angry over it. It's very AtE but it's in a genuine way, and full disclosure but a major reason I town read his AtE is that I feel it on a personal level. I recently had several games where Day 1 was miserable, and one in particular where town death tunneled me page 1 on literally nothing unless you count ~vibes~ and then acted shocked and angry when they lost after proceeding to do that two more times.

999 comes across as really abrasive and aggressive but that isn't scum indicative, and their frustration feels genuine, similarly to Gamma's. Knowing that they're Koba makes me have to adjust my read since I've misread them in the past for their playstyle, I was a lot more wary of them before the alt slip.

I'm purposely choosing not to really interact with Dwlee because I've TvT tunneled them multiple times in the past. I know they hate ~meta~ but I've gotten a feel for their playstyle after our last few clashes, and I managed to successfully read them in our last game so I'm just going to wait until they town tell.

Cakes I just wanna know what exactly you didn't like about my post. Because I'm constantly getting scum read as town for calling out bad town plays and getting frustrated with town in general. If you say "vibes" I'm just ignoring you, give an actual reason.

Ceph I don't really town read you yet, but your defense makes sense. Tbh a part of my frustration with you is based off of what I mentioned wrt to Gamma, in that I've had several shitty Day 1's in a row and your flippant attitude about Strange's mis-elim wasn't helping. But I'm struggling to see scum!you acting this way after Radio Buzz where your scum game was so much more pronounced.

I don't think I have anything new to say about anyone else. Zyla is on my radar but she's just not posting enough for me to have a read on her. I'll post more later tonight after I get some rest. If anyone has anything to ask me or if I missed something, go ahead and @ me.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:36 am
by SCP 999
lmao the way i beatlejuiced like 4 people today