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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:22 am
by Enchant
In post 474, Titus wrote:
LLD is.
Gypyx might as well be.
You're treating me as town, yet objecting to an agreed upon gameplan.
I trying to influence you in favor of more reasonable plan.
If i need blackmail you for this, i doing this. You can dislike me for this, but it's needed.
If LLD needs XP, then i am not against it really. But what it gives on instant? Nothing. Only potentially lategame.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:22 am
by Enchant
LoL
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:28 am
by jjh927
Titus, I am telling you that you have thoroughly misunderstood the mechanics of this game, and ask that you read this post until you understand it. If you have any questions, please ask them.
If you're worried about tracker results or similar being messed up by the experience stuff, then you are worried about something inevitable. There is no way that anything can be done about this. This is the kind of game where actions will be flying around wildly, and there is literally a ninja ability that can be bought for 1 experience. Scum do not need an excuse to visit people in this game.
Enchant does not need to have a hood with Mastina because the 0.5 experience thing is Enchant's ability. It is a day action that targets any player and gives them 0.5 experience. This does not drain enchant's experience.
Separately from this, everyone has the ability to give other player's their own experience. They can either do this at a 1:1 rate if they share a hood, or a 2:1 rate if they do not ( ie, they give 1 exp and the target receives 0.5 exp). This can happen at any time and I think should occur instantly, so it can happen at the start of the night phase, for example.
Enchant is likely not blackmailing Gypyx, but explaining the reality that someone else needs to have and then use the experience to gain access to the engineer ability. Enchant does not need to be the one to have the experience, though. It could be anyone, as long as it is not the person whose role PM needs to be upgraded. Someone just needs to have 3 experience to buy an engineer ability and the two previous abilities from any skill tree, and then can target anyone to upgrade a role PM.
I imagine that Enchant would see nothing wrong with the idea of you having the 3 experience so you can upgrade Gypyx's role PM- aside from how thoroughly you have misunderstood the mechanics, and how by dropping out of the challenge and not trying again you are effectively taxing Enchant's experience more by expecting him to supply more of it. From the sounds of it, Enchant's problem is that Gypyx cannot logistically have the experience to upgrade their own role PM. This is a mechanical fact, rather than an issue that Enchant has with Gypyx. Someone else has to have that experience and spend it in order to upgrade Gypyx's role PM.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:34 am
by Titus
Jjh, you are missing the hood context which I will provide shortly.
Also, I don’t believe I can succeed the challenge due to my bad focus.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:36 am
by jjh927
Context is always better than me just extending my situational awareness
Enchant may well be being uncooperative but if I'm honest I think your plan is bad and relies on incorrect mechanical assumptions
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:37 am
by Enchant
I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.
Also. I already gived solution.
WAIT MOMENT WHERE WE PLAN TO HAMMER SOMEONE, RETRY, POST 5 SENSELESS POSTS, GG YOU DONE CHALLENGE CAN HAMMER.
Is that's SO HARD?
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:38 am
by jjh927
By the way, when did all the pronouns disappear?
Pedit: what did you do to blackmail gypyx
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:39 am
by Enchant
In post 481, jjh927 wrote:By the way, when did all the pronouns disappear?
Pedit: what did you do to blackmail gypyx
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I promised to protect him and not hammer in response for him giving XP.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:43 am
by jjh927
lmao, okay that's maybe a bit underhanded
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
what if gypyx is scum with a really cool ability that he wants to live to night to use?
then you are just being a useful tool for him and chainsawing the shit out of me for literally no reason
also i dont know if you've noticed
BUT I CANT FUCKING SEE WHAT GYPYX IS SAYING IN YOUR HOOD
so if im reading his play IN THREAD as being scum!gypyx and you're saying nah this guy is town cuz he's saying some shit in the hood that can only be town
then like you kind of have to show me?
i am town
if you dont want to work with me and just want to yeet me for ????? reasons then that's on you.
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i also dont actually give a fuck if this town wants to drive off the edge of a cliff cuz sekrit hood shenanigans i have no patience for idiocy
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:44 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
LoL
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:45 am
by Titus
In post 480, Enchant wrote:I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.
Right. Not only did you blackmail Gypyx, you attempted to take the experience for yourself. I called you out on that at 2:20 pm in the hood. You voted me in public nine minutes later.
Enchant has an agenda. It's not protown.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:46 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
your agenda isn't protown either
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:46 am
by Titus
I also hadn't failed the challenge or had expressed any alleged mechanical misunderstandings. Enchant had no excuse but greed and sabotage. Enchant won't state their agenda but they have one.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:47 am
by jjh927
[unvpte][/unvote]
I tHiNk EnChAnT iS tOwN fRoM tHiS dIsCuSsIoN
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:47 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
wtf does greed have to do with alignment
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:47 am
by Titus
Getting three to five conftown or two conftown and scum is not protown? Hahaha.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:49 am
by Titus
My god this will be like pulling teeth. Luckily, I can ignore this for awhile and come back later as it's DnD time.
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:49 am
by jjh927
UNVOTE:
Just fixing that tag
I will be genuinely furious if that causes me to fail the challenge because it is clearly a typo of something outside the bounds of the challenge
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:49 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
if gypyx promised you 3 conftown people by tommorrow then i have a bridge to sell you
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:50 am
by Titus
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 am
by Enchant
In post 487, Titus wrote: In post 480, Enchant wrote:I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.
Right. Not only did you blackmail Gypyx, you attempted to take the experience for yourself. I called you out on that at 2:20 pm in the hood. You voted me in public nine minutes later.
Enchant has an agenda. It's not protown.
Yes i stated why i want XP from start. I can say it's kinda egoistic, but.. Heh.
Also we have different timezones. But i voted you after you claimed "I don't want upgrades but Enchant wants!" which is dumb accusation.
Do you really think i require XP to GET UPGRADED?
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Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:52 am
by Enchant
LoL
Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:56 am
by jjh927
Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game
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