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I have been very clear that I am working towards a coalition that does not need to have me in it. Am I your scummiest read, or the most-widely-townread of your scumreads?

i answered ari on that question earlier, but i think that latest response pushed you up higher to be my highest scumread

i think that from your position, saying that you're working towards a coalition without you in it is a fairly empty promise given that you are the 2nd most healed person, so i don't think that means anything

In post 471, Irrelephant11 wrote:MWTTID

You’re really gonna need a snappier acronym if you want this to catch on, Relly

If it’s the latter, we can just agree now: neither you nor I will be in the coalition. If it’s the former, explain how I (the player who I would argue has done the most to move the game forward, but I digress) am scummier than malakittens, NK15, and your other scumread, Save the Dragons (who has the same reads as me but has done less to make the rest of the playerlist sortable).
If you’re town, sort out my alignment in discussion with skitter and menalque.

Pedit: HURT: all
HEAL: skitter
Save the dragons
Menalque
Datisi
Aristeia

In post 477, Menalque wrote:

In post 471, Irrelephant11 wrote:MWTTID

You’re really gonna need a snappier acronym if you want this to catch on, Relly

ah but i don't

I would love to know why StD is town

Pro tip: “has the same reads as me” will not be accepted as an answer

I mean it's nonsensical because he's literally saying

I have these 5 scumreads

my priority is scumread ____ because he has the most heals and is most likely to be in the coalition.

except we are playing 9p so definitely one of his scumreads will make it into the coalition so like it seems just silly to be focussing on the one getting in when one will get in regardless? If fire doesn't get into coalition because he's not very trusted then two of his scumreads will have to get into the coalition because that's how numbers work.

I can understand his mindset if he's trying to find one scum to make sure doesn't get in because he thinks they are definitely scum because of ____ but targetting Irrel because he has the most heals out of anyone he's scumreading just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

In post 480, Menalque wrote:I would love to know why StD is town

do you think i'm not town

If the five of you could sort each other asap that’d be great, short clock on this phase
If NK15 is town and this is how he continues to play he will only have himself to blame for being out-towned by datisi and aristeia
Not willing to make any swaps on my coalition until NK15/malakittens gets much, much townier or 2 of my townreads tell me with confidence to stop scumreading fire

In post 483, Save The Dragons wrote:

In post 480, Menalque wrote:I would love to know why StD is town

do you think i'm not town

That would be the gist of this post and what I said in 455

Or I guess more accurately— I’ve seen nothing from you that makes you town, and I have concerns, but there’s been so little from mala and NK (plus fire needs sorting) that I’m not sure you’re actually scum

I’d love it if NK15 could answer the question I’ve asked 3 times already or, you know, address me in any way

if nk15 is town i'd love a re-eval of the one read made all game

StD, do you think I should be townreading you here and if so why?

In post 486, Menalque wrote:Or I guess more accurately— I’ve seen nothing from you that makes you town, and I have concerns, but there’s been so little from mala and NK (plus fire needs sorting) that I’m not sure you’re actually scum

i feel like i've been actively sorting people do you disagree

like what are you looking for that you're not seeing

i dunno if you should be town reading me but i don't know if you should have concerns

i mean

i am town

I looked at your ISO and I saw reads and comments, but I couldn’t really see a clear/not easily fakeable progression anywhere like I think I can in Relly’s ISO

If being totally honest I also didn’t really jive with your reaction to my 146 (or thereabouts, I’m doing the post number by memory)

And I thought your position of not worrying about people’s scumgames and just being able to read them regardless was plausible, but not reasonable

I’d like for some of the people who are townreading you to run through it for me, because as mentioned, I’m p far from locked in on you but rn I don’t feel comfortable with you on coalition

But I just figured as you were around I’d ask if there was anything you thought made it really obvious you were town that I was being boneheaded about

okay let's talk about it

what were you trying to say in post 146

In post 492, Menalque wrote:And I thought your position of not worrying about people’s scumgames and just being able to read them regardless was plausible, but not reasonable

this is really a playstyle gripe and is nai as far as i'm concerned

I also tend to do a combo of skimming ISOs for impressions and then reading them more closely when I need to make an important decision, and I’ll admit you have been more of the skim variety so far

In post 494, Save The Dragons wrote:this is really a playstyle gripe and is nai as far as i'm concerned

I mean I’m writing it off as mostly NAI but I think you’re wrong to take that position and I find it odd that you don’t find the reasons for why I think you’re wrong compelling

It’s the not seeing why the reasons are compelling (or perhaps me not understanding why you don’t find them compelling) that makes me suspect they may be false reasons to justify putting ari/skitt into the coalition more easily, which I would want to do if scum because it would be good cover for me

In 146 I was trying to make it clear that I was aware that 145 was not actually a compelling argument at all

But once I’d had the idea of the argument, I decided to post it anyway, because it would be funny to make a post that was trash arguing for why I’m town, only to immediately give a wink wink nudge nudge acknowledgement that it wasn’t that at all

hi friends i'm done with over 2/3rds of my biology seminar are y'all proud of me

did anyone think it was funny how yesterday nk15 said he was gonna Engage More with the game and respond to things or whatever it was and then earlier he dropped a very funny "i have nothing to add." line? i thought it was funny.

ok where are we

In post 496, Menalque wrote:

In post 494, Save The Dragons wrote:this is really a playstyle gripe and is nai as far as i'm concerned

I mean I’m writing it off as mostly NAI but I think you’re wrong to take that position and I find it odd that you don’t find the reasons for why I think you’re wrong compelling

It’s the not seeing why the reasons are compelling (or perhaps me not understanding why you don’t find them compelling) that makes me suspect they may be false reasons to justify putting ari/skitt into the coalition more easily, which I would want to do if scum because it would be good cover for me

i mean i think you're wrong for putting people on a pedestal and having that affect your reads on them in this game so i'm not sure why i would find your reasons compelling

like i intellectually understand why you're doing that

but i don't think it's right