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I died right after openly scumreading Off the Hook so it's probably just them

In post 176, MathBlade wrote:The only reason I was miselimmed is we thought Titus was our traitor with how bad our reads were.

It almost became a dead sweep.

I am very good at scum because it requires actively listening and then giving people what they want.

But if you’re in a bad spot you manipulate the gamestate and people’s minds.

As outed scum this game left me continue to plan and speak and move chess pieces on the board.

Some assumptions people made are accurate and some I have poisoned the well.

When you see the mafia PT post game there is a key assumption (I won’t say what) that I am not correcting.

Wow, seriously? Why would you even think you had a traitor in this game?

In post 185, ProfessorDrapion wrote:LOL
Butterflies going “oh I’ll probably die”
“Mafia wants me dead”

LOL.

Uumh . . . .

In post 466, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 109, ProfessorDrapion wrote:CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
BestBird - No Visit
Pooky - No Visit

This doesn’t look great for OtH, I admit. But for Gamma to say all of that really hurtful stuff to me as scum, I just don’t think so.

i think gamma pocketed you and is p obvscum but i could be wrong #.#

In post 380, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.

like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her

+1

troof <3

In post 385, ProfessorDrapion wrote:

In post 384, RH9 wrote:

In post 380, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 377, Noraa wrote:mm i dont think i agree. maybe with this town, sort of. but its not solely nancy's influence. who's to say that nancy hard town reading me would save me? like you dont KNOW that.

like its basically impossible to vote out town nancy. its way easier to just townread her

In my honest opinion, I think that trying to mislim Nancy isn't easy.

Sure it is!
As wolf I like to ML the strongest town.

Good luck with that then. My miselim rate on this site is 5 and one of them includes that includes a game where two scummy slots replaced in after me.

In post 478, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 466, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 109, ProfessorDrapion wrote:CSF - No Result
Bella - Wolf
BestBird - No Visit
MisLim - No Visit
Butterflies - No Visit
Blue - Visited Me
Butters (Mason Claim) - No Visit
BestBird - No Visit
Pooky - No Visit

This doesn’t look great for OtH, I admit. But for Gamma to say all of that really hurtful stuff to me as scum, I just don’t think so.

i think gamma pocketed you and is p obvscum but i could be wrong #.#

I’m just having real trouble believing that scum!Gamma tells me to quit mafia. That sounds a lot more like the kind of thing FL would do to me. \_0_/

I agree that I don’t think it’s MB. BB really hardpushed for Johhny before Noraa and I could really see them scum distancing.

However Gamma’s hammer doesn’t look great but I don’t see why OtH kills me here, when MB is hard sr them. No one but OtH would have MB as their first choice to elim, so if BB’s the last scum, killing us and having OtH and MB want to kill each other is optimal.

In post 452, Rad wrote:HAHA MAX WIFOM GOOOO

^ the reason you're dead right now

In post 482, Rad wrote:

In post 452, Rad wrote:HAHA MAX WIFOM GOOOO

^ the reason you're dead right now

Nah, I led the lim on Noraa, I became bleeding obvtown after that.

Just kick back and wait for the "Nancy townlocked me, why would I kill her?" argument

In post 476, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 176, MathBlade wrote:The only reason I was miselimmed is we thought Titus was our traitor with how bad our reads were.

It almost became a dead sweep.

I am very good at scum because it requires actively listening and then giving people what they want.

But if you’re in a bad spot you manipulate the gamestate and people’s minds.

As outed scum this game left me continue to plan and speak and move chess pieces on the board.

Some assumptions people made are accurate and some I have poisoned the well.

When you see the mafia PT post game there is a key assumption (I won’t say what) that I am not correcting.

Wow, seriously? Why would you even think you had a traitor in this game?

I can’t answer that without spoiling some things sorry.

However this referred to a prior game Nancy

Math the way you talk feels like there's still something sneaky we don't know about yet. Can't wait to find out XD

In post 487, Rad wrote:Math the way you talk feels like there's still something sneaky we don't know about yet. Can't wait to find out XD

Maybe?

Or maybe I am just being scummy in dead chat?

You’re welcome to hunt me and try to figure it out.

In post 484, Rad wrote:Just kick back and wait for the "Nancy townlocked me, why would I kill her?" argument

So I’m going to guess you think it’s OtH then?

If it weren’t for Gamma telling me to quit playing mafia, I’d probably be more suspicious. I would be extremely disappointed that Gamma would hurt me like that to win a scumgame (intentionally or otherwise), because he would have to know I’d be absolutely livid with him postgame.

Gamma 100% knows this and I just have real trouble seeing him being totally fine with that. And he doesn’t seem to really be much affected by it all really and I don’t see how he wouldn’t as scum?

In post 489, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 484, Rad wrote:Just kick back and wait for the "Nancy townlocked me, why would I kill her?" argument

So I’m going to guess you think it’s OtH then?

If it weren’t for Gamma telling me to quit playing mafia, I’d probably be more suspicious. I would be extremely disappointed that Gamma would hurt me like that to win a scumgame (intentionally or otherwise), because he would have to know I’d be absolutely livid with him postgame.

Gamma 100% knows this and I just have real trouble seeing him being totally fine with that. And he doesn’t seem to really be much affected by it all really and I don’t see how he wouldn’t as scum?

I think Gamma was just being real with you, not doing it to try to win the game, just how he decided to reach out as a friend. I mean, that's gotta be the explanation if he's town right? It can be the same explanation if he's scum. His intention can be the same there regardless of what his alignment is this game. You can be upset with him for how he approached it but I don't think it's necessarily alignment indicative.

I do think OTH is scum here.

In post 395, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p13508746

theres no reason for scum noraa not to hammer town oth at this game state

That alone is damning. I called out a while ago that Noraa/BB/OTH lims in any order wins town the game and I still believe that was true then. If I was in the game I might have a hard time deciding between BB and OTH but pooky's point on the wagon I think is the nail in the coffin.

Noraa didn’t hammer Johnny either.

I disagree, I don’t view it the way you do if Gamma’s scum. If he’s scum it reads very similar to what FL did to me in tm game and I will absolutely not be okay with it.

Johnny's poison until the end. You bring johnny into ELO if you can.

when did noraa have a chance to hammer johnnyf

In post 492, Rad wrote:Johnny's poison until the end. You bring johnny into ELO if you can.

Why do you think BB wanted Johnny first? Game would be over with Johnny miselim before Noraa. So I don’t find that argument terribly compelling.

I’m not saying it can’t be OtH but I will not be either okay or congratulate OtH if it turns out to be the case. I don’t reward dirty and unethical play as scum ever and that takes the cake for that imo.


FL tried to shame and humilate me for essentially being bad miselim bait, now he absolutely did it intentionally but for hypothetical scum!Gamma who’s supposed to be my friend and tell me to quit mafia (even IF hurting me wasn’t intentional) would just totally sicken me. I just don’t want to believe Gamma does this to me to win a scumgame.

In post 493, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:when did noraa have a chance to hammer johnnyf

Johnny was at e-1 with BB, Gamma and me voting him, then I jumped off.

In post 494, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why do you think BB wanted Johnny first? Game would be over with Johnny miselim before Noraa. So I don’t find that argument terribly compelling.

I think BB legit believed Johnny was scum cause BB is town.

In post 496, Rad wrote:

In post 494, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Why do you think BB wanted Johnny first? Game would be over with Johnny miselim before Noraa. So I don’t find that argument terribly compelling.

I think BB legit believed Johnny was scum cause BB is town.

Maybe? But game would have been over without Noraa flip. You could be right and if so, I’m probably going to throw up or something. :/

I wouldn't have killed bflies here

In post 498, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I wouldn't have killed bflies here

Who do you think it is Johnny? I think it’s BB because he was very insane in limming you first. I think Noraa only got yeeted because I refused to budge.

I made it a point of posting that in the hood after I saw you flip. I’ve been doing that the past few nights in case we died.