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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:49 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 4691, Luca Blight wrote:I really can't see myself voting anyone other than BBmolla tbh.

VOTE: BBmolla

I don't think Andres is sk, but gg if you are.
Like why does Luca SK shoot Molla? How does that even make sense? And why don’t I just exploit this? I am the only one who openly thought Molla was not SK and had Molla on my side. I don’t think Molla turns against me even if Luca decides to go against this clear intent to execute Molla I don’t.

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:15 pm
by Luca Blight
I just read the wiki, which says that a rolecop gets a result of 'Vanilla' to an SK, so I'm assuming the SK wasn't aware of that which is why they shot chkflip.

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:17 pm
by Luca Blight
That could maybe explain the Momrangal kill as well

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:27 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
Well this sucks.
I don't know how to convince whichever one of you is town. It seems the decision is already made so gg i guess?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:29 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I'm not one to drag out a day if it's going to be a waste of my time.

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:31 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
I'm guessing here. If it's correct i'll get bragging rights either way.
VOTE: Andresvmb

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:31 pm
by Luca Blight
My mind isn’t made up, but I’m leaning towards it being you atm.

Pedit; just confirming I’m not hammering

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:34 pm
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 4756, Luca Blight wrote:My mind isn’t made up, but I’m leaning towards it being you atm.
Yeah, i got that.
If you got any questions you can ask them.

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:14 pm
by Luca Blight
Well, if you can find anything that helps me see Andres is the SK and not you then that would be good.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:56 am
by Andresvmb
Ha. I was right to change my mind.

That’s amazing.

VOTE: Norwegian

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:57 am
by Andresvmb
Alright Luca I’m an open book. Literally ask me anything.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:00 am
by Luca Blight
In post 4690, Andresvmb wrote:Alright well I’m not going to drag this for forever. If you guys are just going to vote BBMolla then I won’t stand in the way. It’s not like I think I’m more likely to figure the SK out than anybody here.
This was quite a sudden change of tone. You thought BBmolla was least likely SK, so why were you so quick to back down here?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:07 am
by Luca Blight
I'm about to sleep and will probably make my decision in about 12 hours time.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:29 am
by Andresvmb
In post 4761, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 4690, Andresvmb wrote:Alright well I’m not going to drag this for forever. If you guys are just going to vote BBMolla then I won’t stand in the way. It’s not like I think I’m more likely to figure the SK out than anybody here.
This was quite a sudden change of tone. You thought BBmolla was least likely SK, so why were you so quick to back down here?
Well you have correctly pointed out that I tend to be stubborn. And I was somewhat sure that BBMolla was Town. I didn’t pin them as SK and I didn’t even think they were Scum. I did stand up for BBMolla as Town you’ll recall when the wagon was building against them.

You want to know why I backed down? Because I have some faith in my ability to point out Scum. I think I’m decent at that, particularly when I’m focused or following closely. Pointing out 3p? Not really. I try to look at a situation, think through the motivation, and see if it makes sense to me. But guessing what a 3p wants to do outside of the obvious incentive to survive is difficult to guess. I wouldn’t have adopted the approach Norwegian did for example. Because they risked a massive backlash once they got a few things wrong, and the Scum have no incentive to help out. And you saw that with their near death. But I suppose Norwegian figured out that trying to blend with the Town and actually trying to figure out Scum was more important long-term. And frankly it’s paid off right.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:31 am
by Andresvmb
Also, I am a bit tired of this game. If I’m being transparent. It’s been a long game, and I wasn’t looking forward to having to wait around for a resolution. I think the SK has been counting on slowly bleeding us to death in a way. Because one player was not willing to accelerate nights, and I can guarantee that at the end, it was a conscious tactic.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:32 am
by Andresvmb
Besides, I knew that if I got it wrong, here at the very end, I was going to have so many people disappointed in me. Particularly given how close we are to actually winning. It’s somewhat of a blessing that it’s not up to me hahaha I feel very relaxed about it now.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:42 am
by Andresvmb
So yeah I think I have been pretty straightforward about my feelings about how to figure out the SK. And I have tried to stay consistent with that. I think Norwegian suggesting that there was a 3p instead of a Vig was a genius move btw. I would not have had the balls to do that, and it really threw me off. But even that for example - it’s an overplay. It’s consistent with a BBMolla NK.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:47 pm
by Luca Blight
I feel quite strongly that Norwegian is the SK here. I’m just gonna go for it.

VOTE: Norwegian

Hopefully this was the right call.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:14 pm
by Andresvmb
@Luca you’re Town? Because if so, yeah it was. We won :D

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:15 pm
by Andresvmb
Now you can yell at me for hating on you this game haha

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:15 pm
by Luca Blight
Yes :]

Well played, Andres. You towned it up and made is easy for me there.

Norwegian had a great game as well.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:17 pm
by Andresvmb
Hahaha thanks. I’m glad you were all indignant. It helped me read you for sure.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:18 pm
by Andresvmb
We did well! This game was tough. A win is a win is a win.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:20 pm
by Andresvmb
After all that effort I’m just glad it paid off.

@Binatog! You cleared two players this game. That was fantastic. Talk about making hard on the Scum.

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:21 pm
by Andresvmb
^making it hard*