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I'm working on a project so if we could not hammer for

~12-48 hrs while I do it id appreciate it

Do you think Tictac flips green?

UNVOTE:

No hammers allowed

In post 4731, Roden wrote:

In post 4730, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4728, Roden wrote:I think Mastina and Ceph are both town tbh.

Ceph is also highlighted in there if you wanna peek yourself. <3


And toogs the point is, it gets nowhere and does nothin.

-Pinkie

I see the case with the votes, but tonally he's felt townie to me. He's had these moments of nuance and reasoning that pinged me the same way Mush would. Like with Mush it would go back and forth from scum to town, but it would do too many things that would go against a scum agenda, and I feel like Ceph has done the same all game.

And actually, speaking of Mush I feel like Ceph would've had that slot killed way sooner. It blocked a lot of his efforts to do things he wanted, like getting certain players elim'd, getting a claim out of the Bears, and just generally putting pressure on Ceph and threatening to vote him out multiple times. I think scum wanted both of them around to keep them opposed to each other.

Isnt just the votes, it's the play.
Ceph's spewed so much crap in this game to look busy then AtE'd and taken a shot at mastina which I thought crossed a line personally.
He's also been caught lying.

-Pinkie

In post 4732, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4730, The Three Bears wrote:And toogs the point is, it gets nowhere and does nothin.

Kind of like your role in The Three Bears!

/zing!

Least I am one of the three bears panda peep

-Pinkie the lolbear

In post 4733, Cephrir wrote:vote counts are a poor way to determine anyone's alignment

particularly just poi9nting at them and declaring a read on that basis. anyone can arrive at any read on anyone by staring at them long enough. please read motivations.

In post 4734, Cephrir wrote:the only way you can make vca worse is by randomly preflipping me while you do it.

Titus is the VCA queen here, I'm just the minion trying to learn.

Truth is you got caught with ya kecks down twice.
Caught lying and caught AtE'ing and generally throwing a tantrum any time pressure goes up on you or you don't get your own way.

And honestly calling half of it pressure is a stretch.

-Pinkie

What is the difference between trying and looking busy other than the conclusion you're already fitting evidence to

I havent lied lol, I may not always fact check but that's a stretch

Ok I'm not really interested in the insults thanks anyway

In post 4736, Save The Dragons wrote:Ceph is

b't

town

Ceph is

not

dying today

ftfy

In post 4751, Roden wrote:Do you think Tictac flips green?

dont place words in my mouth lol

In post 4756, Cephrir wrote:What is the difference between trying and looking busy other than the conclusion you're already fitting evidence to

I havent lied lol, I may not always fact check but that's a stretch

You've given nothing substantive to my memory - and what you have, you lied about.

The only thing I can really remember of you was trying to force me to flavour claim.
Which, for having 463 posts is bad, even with my awful memory. Dipping your ISO your self assurance in how you read yourself is always going to set a flag off for me, you also go as far as "If I was scum..." which honestly seems to come more from scum ime.

You've also said you're going to skim and look over a lot of things but don't seem to be coming up with anything.

I am crap at VCA, its why I stopped doing it. I still have the scripts though because honestly they're a good tool for working out Titus alignment lol

One thing that is good though is looking at votes in ISO

18 is RVS on
57 is interesting, that's probably me looking at my own narrative though.
584 is a nekkid on Roden
1347 is naked on , the third vote on a "safe" wagon that isn't Ircher, also bus points maybe?
1474 is "k" and , following Fenrirs ask for the vote. So naked, basically. Vote#4 on the wagon according to the post counts. Vote's gone in the next VC...
1755 is back on and said VC has and tied.
1963 unvotes and
2145 is the start Tictac. Doesn't like them, despite quoting a post
2230 is on to , "With me, all ye dubious." after talking with Mush on unrelated.
2313 "lmao" Straight up wagoning.
2418 in fairness is an early shove on and is #3 on the wagon and held all day.
3155 is back to tictac and in response to a couple shitposts and a couple more wagoning votes.
3555 goes back to who "is scum, but not for this post" (3525) - no other reason. Never offered either, goes into getting our claim instead. Speaking of...
3587 is voting TTB because "absolutely the fuck not" in response to my partial shitposting saying only gets to push for the claim from us.
3632 is unrelated here but it still makes me laugh on also the read on us DROPS after this.
3928 is back to seeing as hes done with his vote.
4083 Is naked on Roden. If it's not naked it's sheeping Fenrir again.
4276 Unvotes
4326 is on , Reasoning is interesting. "Don't have enough reason not to."
4333 Back on the mints... I mean tictac. Still naked.
4369 Back to 5th on the wagon of 8 to lim, interesting. Without doing day vote by vote Cant say for sure, but this is certainly interesting.
4724 Naked Tictac.
4752 unvotes.

Such a limited pool. See your Ircher vote was solid, you tried getting counterwagons to Dunn...

And whats your Tictac obsession?

In post 4757, Cephrir wrote:Ok I'm not really interested in the insults thanks anyway

Funny that.

In post 4717, Cephrir wrote:You wouldnt know anything town if it was right in front of your face.

I said you threw a tantrum, subjective based on perception, perhaps infantilising your behaviour, but not insulting you.
You've just insulted Mastina in that one.

Genuinely I'm scumreading you so hard now I'd biasclear Tictac for your tunnel.

-This and last is the Pinkie Brain

I also think you pocketed Fenrir.
--Pinkie

i mean I feel like mastina is pocketing a lot of ppl.

I just dont feel like ceph is scum

id go over mastina for ceph

(in b4 mastina tells me to go fuck myself)

In post 4760, The Three Bears wrote:You've given nothing substantive to my memory - and what you have, you lied about.

The only thing I can really remember of you was trying to force me to flavour claim.
Which, for having 463 posts is bad, even with my awful memory. Dipping your ISO your self assurance in how you read yourself is always going to set a flag off for me, you also go as far as "If I was scum..." which honestly seems to come more from scum ime.

You've also said you're going to skim and look over a lot of things but don't seem to be coming up with anything.

It's funny that you accuse me of lying and then go on to lie yourself? I have done the reading I've said I would do and the evidence is in the thread. You still havent even said what I've supposedly lied about. It's not my fault if you can't remember me doing anything; i have

I'm not interested in talking to this head anymore. You cant post without insulting me. Send someone else if your slot wants to interact with me.

In post 4759, Malakittens wrote:

In post 4751, Roden wrote:Do you think Tictac flips green?

dont place words in my mouth lol

I'm not, I'm asking you a question lol.

In post 4747, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4746, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4703, NorwegianboyEE wrote:The previous argument that Tictac wagon too easy was laughable btw.
We have 2 scum dead so it’s not like there will be a lot of scum sway over wagons at this point. If scum get’s run up then they are likely getting run up.

its not laughable. scum is typically harder to elim even if no scum buddies exist. because scum's wincon is surviving. town's wincon doesnt require them to be alive.

Technically false. Scum win through death, town win by surviving. The team that wins is the team that wipes out the opposition. Scum technically wipe out town once they reach 50% because town can't stop it.

not sure what you mean but scum have a greater chance of winning with more members. elo with 4 scum vs elo with 1 scum. HUGE difference. town is typically easier to mislim than scum is to catch. that was my point.

-noraa

In post 4752, Cephrir wrote:UNVOTE:

No hammers allowed

its e-3 now. put ur vote back. e-2 is an ok place to be.

-noraa

im kind of at a place where im pretty certain [mastina, cephrir] is not [T, T] but beyond that im just like i have no fucking clue.
maybe its 3p and town. maybe both are scum.
i literally just dont know.
i had a read that [cephrir, fenrir] wasnt all town but thats not very confident currently. might still be right anyways though.

-noraa

Jesus christ

In post 4753, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4731, Roden wrote:

In post 4730, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4728, Roden wrote:I think Mastina and Ceph are both town tbh.

Ceph is also highlighted in there if you wanna peek yourself. <3


And toogs the point is, it gets nowhere and does nothin.

-Pinkie

I see the case with the votes, but tonally he's felt townie to me. He's had these moments of nuance and reasoning that pinged me the same way Mush would. Like with Mush it would go back and forth from scum to town, but it would do too many things that would go against a scum agenda, and I feel like Ceph has done the same all game.

And actually, speaking of Mush I feel like Ceph would've had that slot killed way sooner. It blocked a lot of his efforts to do things he wanted, like getting certain players elim'd, getting a claim out of the Bears, and just generally putting pressure on Ceph and threatening to vote him out multiple times. I think scum wanted both of them around to keep them opposed to each other.

Isnt just the votes, it's the play.
Ceph's spewed so much crap in this game to look busy then AtE'd and taken a shot at mastina which I thought crossed a line personally.
He's also been caught lying.

-Pinkie

I'm gonna pick out the posts from his ISO that I town read to get some second opinions on then, because I do think you have a valid reason to scum read him. I just want to make sure I'm not accidentally covering for scum, especially since he has gone after me for quite a bit of this game.

In post 4764, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4760, The Three Bears wrote:You've given nothing substantive to my memory - and what you have, you lied about.

The only thing I can really remember of you was trying to force me to flavour claim.
Which, for having 463 posts is bad, even with my awful memory. Dipping your ISO your self assurance in how you read yourself is always going to set a flag off for me, you also go as far as "If I was scum..." which honestly seems to come more from scum ime.

You've also said you're going to skim and look over a lot of things but don't seem to be coming up with anything.

It's funny that you accuse me of lying and then go on to lie yourself? I have done the reading I've said I would do and the evidence is in the thread. You still havent even said what I've supposedly lied about. It's not my fault if you can't remember me doing anything; i have

I did though, thats the thing, I've said exactly what you lied about. I even gave a huge post with vote counts showing your lie. I've skimmed your ISO and looked at your votes too so I've put the effort in.
You're naked votes and wagonering.
You're caught, quite simply.
And I've done the work for people to quickly check themselves if they want to.

In post 4765, Cephrir wrote:I'm not interested in talking to this head anymore. You cant post without insulting me. Send someone else if your slot wants to interact with me.

Fine. You're caught scum. I haven't even insulted much besides your indignance when under pressure.
You can complain from the dead thread.

-Pinkie

Searching in your ISO for "reread" "read over" "skim" and "iso" - searched for the player in question after.

1340 - Re-reading lurkers. I don't see anything directly come of it. Dunn vote a possible connection.
1446 - ISO'd Dunn, discovered it was "unimpressive"
1774 - Probably worth ISO'ing Norwee. Nothing shown to say this was done.
3243 - Ircher ISO'd Mush town.
3263 - Andante ISO'd. Town inclination on an "erratic" player
3431 - Ircher ISO referenced.
4615 - Dunn ISO referenced.


Based on that, my bad. I thought you'd been saying about more reading and assessment. I Messed up.

-Pinkie

In post 4754, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4732, Toogeloo wrote:

In post 4730, The Three Bears wrote:And toogs the point is, it gets nowhere and does nothin.

Kind of like your role in The Three Bears!

/zing!

Least I am one of the three bears panda peep

-Pinkie the lolbear

I need some aloe vera...