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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:37 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 4774, Polar Bear Express wrote:I still think trickling down would have been more optimal, so I hope it doesn’t backfire.
Ya
see

this would have been a great idea
if I thought of it

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:38 pm
by Double the Trouble
Anyhow thats the nature of all in plays
you either go big or go home

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:39 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
um you are assuming I can control Alisae

hehe

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:41 pm
by Ircher
In post 4743, Solstice wrote:[Ydrasse never really commented or did any analysis on pichu's case that i know of, and yet she was pretty confident in it at most times.. I considered scum!TMI and decided against it earlier, but now I am less sure.]
My understanding is Ydrasse didn't have that much time D2 and just lent her vote to pichu. I guess that's not the best look, but I wouldn't think this is really scum!TMI.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:42 pm
by Ircher
*cues Jeopardy music*

Where art thou, Dr Easy Bake.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:44 pm
by Double the Trouble
it is way past 4/5est

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:44 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4759, Solstice wrote:
In post 4755, Polar Bear Express wrote:I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?
[My opinion on the subject was "This is a waste of time to talk about", not much more than that. This is all irrelevant when we'll be killing off scum shortly]

~Morning

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... start=1275

Trust Fall game.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:47 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4761, Solstice wrote:
In post 4758, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4756, Solstice wrote:[I thought it was really jokey. If Ydrasses' scumteam killed Hectic, I think she'd be practically obligated to do that bit. It's not like it was her choice to kill him]
you mean she wasn't really shaking ?! :shifty:
[this?]
In post 4530, Ydrasse wrote:me too... im literally shaking and crying rn you dont get it, im heartbroken to lose my rock, my anchor, my soulmason this game, we bonded so much, im in agony, theres a hole ripped inside of me where my heart is and the mafia stole it from me and i think they're eating it in a ritual or something i have to hope theyre using it well but really i am just so numb rn i cant even explain it why did this happen to me why why why why why why why
[I'm lost as to whether or not you're kidding. is there a joke currently soaring over my head rn?]

[I'm legitimately confused now, are you both considering this AtE or are you messing with me]

~Morning
Okay, so @Ydrasse, I’m seriously not getting this. If this was genuine like Pooky’s saying and I obviously read it that way too, then where did that sudden 180 come from?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:51 pm
by Ircher
Also Gloria, is there a reason your slot's activity level has inverted? As in Noraa has barely posted this day phase it seems whereas you are posting a lot.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:53 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4765, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4755, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4746, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4744, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4738, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4729, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4712, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4710, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4708, Double the Trouble wrote:massclaim ends tomorrow probably while im asleep
don't do anything stupid while im asleep please
Out of curiosity, why did you want the masons outed? Was it to do the mass claim?
- Creature always outs today tbh. It was nice to have him as a LHF for awhile but we don't want that anymore. TBH he wanted to out D2 but I didn't see any reason why he should do that just because he was pressured to.
- The Bell flip is really good and overnight we came up a solve that we're confident in. Outing the masonry as well as massclaiming helps with this.
- Even if we're not confident in it, we don't mind trading mason pieces to flip key slots. If we trade 1 for 1 great, if we hit town, that's also great because we can afford a couple of town deaths and the town deaths will ultimately help us get closer to solving. Pooky may be alone but in the late late game, Pooky alone should be enough to bring it home given all of the previous flips. I'm basically trying to set him as well as the whole village up for success.
- Pooky doesn't have that much thread presence where as I do and if I say "Yo, these are the people that need to die" then its more likely that those people will die.
Yeah but you just gave scum three free NKs, so I don’t really understand how this is helpful? I could understand you outing Creature since he was getting run up yesterday but why you and especially Murderkitty? How doesn’t that put targets on all of your respective heads?
yes
That is what trading is.
Obvious problem with that argument, is being IC, doesn’t make your reads correct, it just makes you not miselimable.

So, I think this was a really silly idea, except of course for Creature. I was recently in a game. I can link it if you like? I was also IC and I was deathtunelled on town!RR and as a result got pocketed by both scum and we lost because everyone wrongly sheeped me. And the absolute worst part of that is I got yelled at post game. :/
Its not about being correct
Part of setting up checkmate is miseliminating some people to try to figure out what scum were doing during the course of the game.
Okay, so you miselim some slots and if your order is off which it obviously is in our case, we trade what? How many possible miselims for three dead ICs?

I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?
We have 2 miselims which should be enough. By the time we hit F7 or F8 and there’s 3 scum left, the game should be super solvable and hopefully we miselimated the right people to help us understand what happened in this game.
Well, that’s obviously my concern, so we just have to hope your reads are right, I’m just concerned that Norwee shouldn’t be getting so overconfident like I was in Trust Fall. Radiant Cowbells made that mistake in a Team Mafia game and scum won that.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:54 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 4784, Polar Bear Express wrote:Well, that’s obviously my concern, so we just have to hope your reads are right, I’m just concerned that Norwee shouldn’t be getting so overconfident like I was in Trust Fall. Radiant Cowbells made that mistake in a Team Mafia game and scum won that.
I'm just as concerned about Norwee as you are trust me :P

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:54 pm
by Double the Trouble
PBE it doesn’t really matter what my reads are or how confident i am. Cus Alisae just overrides me if they disagree.

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:55 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4769, Solstice wrote:
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:oh

I didn't know that was a meme

I've actually had someone react that way to me dying in a game.
[That would explain it then !]

[In any case I dont think scum!Ydrasse had any hand in who got killed anyway. and if I were scum in Ydrasses' shoes, I'd feel obligated to cry over Hectic after how important he was to her play]
Polar Bear Express wrote:After Hectic was flipped, so I wanted to know if that was out of her scumrange. It’s interesting to me that she isn’t trusting Hectic’s read on us however. Hectic’s only concern was me not posting enough, iirc.
[I'm of the opinion that those posts would have been fairly easy to do as there isn't much actual emotion involved regardless of alignment. The joke was that she was over-exaggerating how upset she was. You don't have to be careful about it looking faked if you intentionally make it really over-the-top.]

~Morning
I don’t understand this. If you think Ydrasse might be scum, then why wouldn’t she have played a role in who got killed?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:57 pm
by Double the Trouble
It wasn’t evem my idea to have a mass claim. I think just Creature claiming mason would have been fine.

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
i think there's no point to talk about mass claiming or masons coming out or whatever

what's done is done. save the strategy debate for post-game.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:58 pm
by Blade Dancer
Official Vote Count 3.2



Not Voting
(12): Double the Trouble, Spiffeh, Toogelo, Ircher, Ydrasse, mastina, Dr Easy Bake, Solstice, Polar Bear Express, Creature, Dunnstral, MURDERCAT
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to execute.

Deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-28 21:25:00)

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Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm
by Solstice
In post 4787, Polar Bear Express wrote:I don’t understand this. If you think Ydrasse might be scum, then why wouldn’t she have played a role in who got killed?
[I am pretty sure FL is doing the majority of the shot-calling. And if the scumteam decided that Pichu needed to die (so maybe a PR or mason read + his hard bus on Bell), then even if Ydrasse didn't want that to happen, it wouldn't matter if they had good enough reasons. and I imagine FL is pretty deliberate with his kills]

~Morning

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 12:59 pm
by Double the Trouble
Save the roasting of Alisae post-game guys.

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:01 pm
by Double the Trouble
Easy Bake do u have a result for us or not.

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:02 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4772, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4771, Polar Bear Express wrote:
In post 4757, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4755, Polar Bear Express wrote:Okay, so you miselim some slots and if your order is off which it obviously is in our case, we trade what? How many possible miselims for three dead ICs?

I just think that Soltice got it right and I just hope we don’t lose because you got overconfident, because that’s exactly what happened to me in Trust Fall. I’m really surprised that he didn’t mention that game to you, because I’m assuming you all discussed that with him first right?
its hard to sort the game when the entire game is SRing masons and the game is not suspecting each other. needed to remove masons from the suspect pool to make more interactions happen.
So you can’t just ignore the bad mason reads? Like I obviously get Creature but whatever, what’s done is done. You really should have made me mason here Pooky but I can understand why you didn’t. I probably never told you that it’s my favourite role?
he did
Did he? Did I actually tell you that @Pooky? I don’t recall?

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:03 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4773, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4771, Polar Bear Express wrote:So you can’t just ignore the bad mason reads? Like I obviously get Creature but whatever, what’s done is done. You really should have made me mason here Pooky but I can understand why you didn’t. I probably never told you that it’s my favourite role?
you were in the pool i submitted

i blame titus for not making you a mason
:)

<3

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:05 pm
by Double the Trouble
So why didn’t it pass? Did Flavour pick them first?

- Norwee

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:05 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4775, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 4774, Polar Bear Express wrote:I still think trickling down would have been more optimal, so I hope it doesn’t backfire.
Ya
see

this would have been a great idea
if I thought of it
I have plenty of great ideas and me and Titus have been in talks for me to be the next town stump.

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:08 pm
by Polar Bear Express
In post 4777, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:um you are assuming I can control Alisae

hehe
Yeah. :lol:

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 1:17 pm
by Creature
ffs