I will gladly unvote for the pleasure of hammering this LOL
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 pm
by chkflip
See you soon, pissy baby. Much love.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 pm
by DrippingGoofball
FLAIL MOAR
No one believes you
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:07 pm
by Doctor Drew
Not a hot take in saying that DGB is most likely town, but she seems a bit too certain of her reads after leading a successful Ice wagon.
You really seem like you have your mind made up about Chk, DGB, and just won't listen to a reason why chk might not be scum(ironic, because that is a classic chk move). And even implicating others by association (Pooky).
Someone on the chk wagon needs to unvote right now, even if he is scum this isn't good.
Imagine not flailing around like a fucking infant and having that considered as "defeated" instead of the other way around.
Imagine.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:09 pm
by chkflip
Don't fret too much, Drew. This is something that needed to happen so town can realign and fix itself. The machine will prevail. We're at roundabout 13:3 give or take, so, I'm considerably unbothered by it.
Imagine not flailing around like a fucking infant and having that considered as "defeated" instead of the other way around.
Imagine.
You're all pretty butthurt about being called defeated scum.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:12 pm
by chkflip
I forgive you for being such a cantankerous person. If we do end up being of the same alignment, I'll have a better idea of how to steer you next time so I don't have to deal with this nonsense. Last post.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:14 pm
by pisskop
Imagine if you were a town supersaint and decided the best move was to bait a softclaimed investigative role into hammering you.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:14 pm
by pisskop
imagine
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:16 pm
by chkflip
Owie. Maybe don't be a jackass and hammer <24 hours into a phase because they said words you don't like.
Price check on jackass. Jackass, anyone? Which aisle was jackass down. Do you remember?
Oh, I lied. This is last. I'm not sharing reads because mine are clearly outlined and -- even when you do pin the entire fucking scum team -- town tends to just mosy along as if you never existed these days. So you lot are on your own. It was a lot of fun playing with most of you.
Until next time.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:24 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
lolol DEFEATED SCUM
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:24 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im gonna miss you flippy
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:29 pm
by DrippingGoofball
A chord has been struck
whoooosh
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:36 pm
by Grendel
SOme of these are probably going to be straight forward, possibly already addressed in thread. But ill say them anyway incase ppl want to know why i think things i think.
In post 4509, DrippingGoofball wrote:Iecerint tunneled on NPOM and then tunneled on me, so I would take his accusations with a scummy grain of salt.
In post 4515, DrippingGoofball wrote:Everyone will forget about this tomorrow as they walk away from my shredded remains, but iecerint, chkflip, Pooky, will need a closer look. They are super linked. It's almost too much of a scum Dream Team to be true, there has got to be a lurksack in the lot, look again at Lavender who and who is endorsing her as town. By memory it was Pooky and chkflip but I could be wrong. I am sweating a publishing deadline right now and don't have time to check. I shouldn't even be typing this right now
DGB power housing that Icey wagon is town. If she were bussing/distancing scum then she could've easily hung back and let the Rude wagon happen. That way she could've extended the bus into day start today and continue to cause discussion to lean on it until town got sick and moved on. The above posts were taken from when Rude was the leading wagon with (I believe) 7 votes vs Icey having 4.
Rudeboy is an acceptable shred given the game state.
My thoughts on Rudeboy:
1. His shift to tunneling NPOM today (rather than defending NPOM before), right when NPOM changed to a more pro-town playstyle and disclosed living with ASD, has not made sense to me, and he's not been able to clarify why beyond being exasperated with NPOM (e.g., but why
now
?).
2. The previous steadfast defense of NPOM based on flavor innuendo makes no sense in hindsight.
3. His focus on policy lynches D3 when we have flipped scum and related cases, and also declining to engage with in-game content, is consistent with scum alignment, especially if DGB is town. The alternative possibility (e.g., Rudeboy behavior being anti-town apathy) is dissonant with approaching the game with feelings of exasperation (i.e., his stated emotions around engagement).
Caveats:
A. There may be more that I still don't know that accounts for #1-#2, because NPOM/TD's behavior from D1/D3 implies there might be more to it.
B. For #3, it's not unbelievable that Rudeboy could move from exasperation to apathy (though I'd expect him to become less dysregulated re: NPOM in that eventuality -- but you could say it's kinda been reflected in some openness to Lavender).
c. Rudeboy's behavior makes more sense for scum!Rudeboy if DGB is town IMO, and I think DGB is pretty clearly scum for reasons I've stated multiple times.
I prefer DGB and will check for a resurgence of a DGB wagon before deadline.
Rude is town b/c of the sudden pivot away from scum wagon onto him. He and Icey survivailstically cross voted in a way that doesnt look S/S, Icey made sure to explain the read before voting which is like justification for impending townie flip.
I already thought Rude was relativity town for how he was constantly going his own way with his reads despite the unpopular means he came to those conclusions (Ei yeeting low posters). This basically solidifys him as town to me.
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NOPOWER is town for both IKS, and Icey, keeping him in their PoE, and both pushing pretty hard there at differnt points of the game. In fact most the roster has kept NO power in their PoE for much of the game. I guess it could be scum distancing but I don’t really feel it. No Power’s characterization as an "annoying poster" as a big motivating force in SR’s over the course of the game is something that happens to annoying town more then annoying scum too btw.
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PIsskop is kinda grandfather in for his D1 interaction w/ IKS, and me not seeing anyhting scummy from his slot since that point. I'd really love more appearances and content from him rn.
I joined in on rude because I can't really defend my TR there on anything other than gut.
If we flip a town slot here, I just hope people will be more open to my angles in the coming days.
In post 4485, BrightEyedFish wrote:Also, I get that me not jumping on the Rude wagon looks bad on me if rude ever flips red. I'd help shred rude if none of my options show present themselves to avoid a no-shred.
Nah nah nah nah nah nah nahnahnahnahhhhh.
That's not what I'm saying. You thinking rude is town is fine. Fucks sake I thought Siteflake was town. It's the fact that you've gone from "I think this wagon is wrong bc townread" to "I think this wagon is wrong bc speed/timing." It's a really strange transition to make, especially so quickly. Again, don't think you're scummy off of it, it's just... weird.
Have you never seen an EoD speedwagon before? They used to be somewhat common. And the speed is two parts: one part "oh fuck we need a lynch" and one part "oh hey that guy is in my null/scum pile, this is fine."
It's about reading the room, Fish. I'm not gonna say I'm some savant, or that I'm even very good at this, but I've seen his name a lot and I've seen him do a whole lot of not much while griping about those that're doing less than he is. Mmmmmm doesn't sit well with me, bud.
Explain why you're town reading them.
I didn't go "I think this wagon is wrong bc townread" to "I think this wagon is wrong bc speed/timing."
Its a combination of those 3.
I've been supportive of most wagons and people have even asked if its normal that I "sheep" so much, so I have been reading the room. It's not like I have told anyone specifically to unvote, I just want people to be aware.
Also, if you think I have any sway in which wagon we will go after you aren't reading the room.
Bright eyed Fish seemed reluctant to leave Icerint for rude, and mostly seemed to do it out of pressure from other players already on rude. I don’t really think it looks like scum being eager to leave a bus. It looks more like town that got nervous that he was incorrect or something.
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Gamma being on both scum flips, and expressing a nuanced level of paranoia on my slot is town looking.
Spoiler:
In post 4719, Gamma Emerald wrote:I could maybe see Grendel as scum but his play so far has felt like he’s town trying to solve in his own way
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I'd say out of my town reads Im very confidant in: DGB, Rude, NoPower, Pisskop
Town with a tinge of paranoia: Gamma, Bright eyed fish
I'll do my null/scum reads next
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:39 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
BETTER HURRY UP GRENDEL I HEARD WE KILLED SOMEBODY ALREADY
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:39 pm
by Grendel
Oh crap, if that really was hammer then im going to say this before i do other reads!
I think that DGB/Rude/NoPower/Pisskop should form a town bloc coalition and game solve together here on out. I would be throughly surprized if any of them were scum.
Gamma, and Bright Eye'd fish I also like as town, but i dont think that should have the level of trust of the other four.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:40 pm
by DrippingGoofball
I like Grendel.
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:41 pm
by DrippingGoofball
In case I'm NK'd
dave, Pooky
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:42 pm
by PookyTheMagicalBear
im definitely gonna NK you now DGB
Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:43 pm
by DrippingGoofball
Dr Drew, Bambi Jay, Lavender... maybe scum, I can't be sure.