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Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:09 am**

the strange thing is how quickly you go from "there is a distinct lack of vax" to "bork must burn" in like 3 hours without Bork actually doing anything from 6PM - 930PM EST - it feels like you gave up on being able to save him because I had successfully lobbied enough people onto him that it was an inevitability that Bork would die.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:10 am**

In post 4822, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Your trajectory on Bork is strange.

I re-read D3 and it's like:

3944 Skitter V1 on Bork (12/21 -747PM)
4010 Pooky V2 on Bork (12/21 -1149PM)
4084 Fiery interacts with Bork about "reading her off interactions" (12/22 400AM)
4094 Ben V3 on Bork (12/22 717 AM)
4097 "There is a distinct lack of Vax today" - Fiery (12/22 601PM)
4118 DGB V4 on Bork (12/22 920PM) E-1
4123 "urge to burn." - Fiery (12/22 928PM)
4133 Wall of Death on Bork - Fiery (12/22 1042PM)

Then can we please vote ffrly?

It feels convenient and the timing does not feel natural for that conviction to develop suddenly.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:11 am**

there's also notsci trying to steer the wagon onto me instead of bork somewhere in there but I am more interested in Fiery atm.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:16 am**

In post 4822, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Your trajectory on Bork is strange.

I re-read D3 and it's like:

3944 Skitter V1 on Bork (12/21 -747PM)
4010 Pooky V2 on Bork (12/21 -1149PM)
4084 Fiery interacts with Bork about "reading her off interactions" (12/22 400AM)
4094 Ben V3 on Bork (12/22 717 AM)
4097 "There is a distinct lack of Vax today" - Fiery (12/22 601PM)
4118 DGB V4 on Bork (12/22 920PM) E-1
4123 "urge to burn." - Fiery (12/22 928PM)
4133 Wall of Death on Bork - Fiery (12/22 1042PM)

It feels convenient and the timing does not feel natural for that conviction to develop suddenly.

It's not the first time I've gone through a slow burn to a massive wall

It's not even the first time since coming back from hiatus. Though the wall I'm thinking about was more of a paranoia read I wanted out there for future game days if I wasn't around.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:18 am**

In post 4824, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 4818, notscience wrote:do you think scum have a PR?
More than likely they have SOMETHING, even if its not claimed here.

So, here’s my issue.

DGBs claim was one of the first out. So scum know that role will catch them in a lie.

Given DGB was not only left alive but not blocked by her own admission, if she is town that necessitates scum not being worried about her result. Which implies they claimed vanilla as goon or pr as pr

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:18 am**

I don't get why you would post a paranoia read of someone who was going almost certainly going to die.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:21 am**

In post 4829, notscience wrote:So, here’s my issue.

DGBs claim was one of the first out. So scum know that role will catch them in a lie.

Given DGB was not only left alive but not blocked by her own admission, if she is town that necessitates scum not being worried about her result. Which implies they claimed vanilla as goon or pr as pr

ok so?

why couldn't it be Fiery-goon who doesn't care about DGB-Cop?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:22 am**

I don't want to fight this tooth and nail if it's going to happen because it probably all happens again tomorrow if DGB is town. But I can't ignore crap reasonings.

Crap reasonings that may not be from town. :/

Yeah I know - I'm town and I don't know DGB is. I get what the correct play is here.

In illicit I was at least following a plan.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:26 am**

In post 4830, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I don't get why you would post a paranoia read of someone who was going almost certainly going to die.

My bork walls were maybe 40% paranoia? His responses to the various pushes/votes day 3 pushed him well down the PoE for me. And then his reaction to my walls were lackluster. Even so, I was hesitant.

The wall I posted about zmuffin in the FGO game was more like 80% paranoia, and I was afraid he'd skate by while at the bottom of the town pile in a POE situation.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:34 am**

In post 4832, fferyllt wrote:I don't want to fight this tooth and nail if it's going to happen because it probably all happens again tomorrow if DGB is town. But I can't ignore crap reasonings.

Crap reasonings that may not be from town. :/

Yeah I know - I'm town and I don't know DGB is. I get what the correct play is here.

In illicit I was at least following a plan.

I am town too.

Then who is scum, according to you?

Not that I'm better at finding the scum here.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:35 am**

Wouldn't have scum hammered me already? I self-voted myself to L-1 to make it really easy.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:36 am**

They would totally get away with it.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:40 am**

mb you should unvote dgb and let's talk this out some more

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:43 am**

Pooky's push on me feels gross. If I were throwing a vote down right now, I'd either vote him or hammer you and I don't know which is the right choice. Your fatalism resonates, though, because that's where I'm at. Though fatalism isn't always town.

And I don't think I'm ever going to reach a strong townread on Vax. I had him as pretty town at one point on Day 1 but he's never risen back to that high water mark.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:47 am**

In post 4823, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 4816, notscience wrote:why
With everyone else claiming and outed, they were protecting that role? I dunno. not sci, your great, but anyone and thier mother could have seen cabd was going to die last night.

?

Cabd died N2. DGB was an outed investigative of an unknown nature at that time. Cabd was my second choice but I wasn't going to let a known PR die for free.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:50 am**

In post 4815, Vaxkiller wrote:But prism, the way your role has been presented, as first a BP, then a doc? Yuck.

Why? Day 3 we had an outed investigative PR and a very high chance of a counterbalancing strongman. I want to make sure the PR lives to Day 4 and gets an extra result.

There's no point in claiming my real role there.

No strongman -> Shoot DGB, get a save
Strongman -> Saves use to potentially kill me later, shoots DGB, gets a save

Shooting me directly is the worst case scenario, which is what would have happened if I claimed regardless.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:53 am**

Like I have to somehow justify not stopping kills the next two nights and justify why scum isn't shooting me. None of this happens if I just keep the bulletproof claim.

I've been on both scum votes. Both of them went out of their way to shut me down and demoralize me Day 1 with the help of one sack of deadweight named petapan.

You've randomly AFK voted me and disappeared the entire game. Make a case on me or shut up already.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:56 am**

In post 4838, fferyllt wrote:Pooky's push on me feels gross. If I were throwing a vote down right now, I'd either vote him or hammer you and I don't know which is the right choice. Your fatalism resonates, though, because that's where I'm at. Though fatalism isn't always town.

And I don't think I'm ever going to reach a strong townread on Vax. I had him as pretty town at one point on Day 1 but he's never risen back to that high water mark.

fferly, like whos your vote on at the moment? Like don't vote DGB, but whos it on? I can never get a starting answer outta you.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:58 am**

In post 4837, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:mb you should unvote dgb and let's talk this out some more

bad pooky, bad

bad bear

stop that

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:00 am**

In post 4841, Prism wrote:Like I have to somehow justify not stopping kills the next two nights and justify why scum isn't shooting me. None of this happens if I just keep the bulletproof claim.

I've been on both scum votes. Both of them went out of their way to shut me down and demoralize me Day 1 with the help of one sack of deadweight named petapan.

You've randomly AFK voted me and disappeared the entire game. Make a case on me or shut up already.

Lol like I need a wall to find scum.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:01 am**

I am willing to policy Vax and vote DGB tomorrow if that's on the table.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:03 am**

In post 4845, Prism wrote:I am willing to policy Vax and vote DGB tomorrow if that's on the table.

Ahhh, so you know ill flip green eh?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:04 am**

In post 4843, Prism wrote:
In post 4837, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:mb you should unvote dgb and let's talk this out some more
bad pooky, bad

bad bear

stop that

you think this is krazy-redux again?

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:14 am**

I think it might be but isn't even worth worrying about, just in the sense that DGB should 100% be one of our three burns even if you might prefer someone else first.

I also want to believe that Isis doesn't let a setup through that actively deceives town in two different deceptive ways while giving scum 0 power, but Isis does have some weird ideas sometimes.

Posted: **Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:14 am**

In post 4846, Vaxkiller wrote:
In post 4845, Prism wrote:I am willing to policy Vax and vote DGB tomorrow if that's on the table.
Ahhh, so you know ill flip green eh?

Yes. Vote me if I am mafia.

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