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Post Post #4825 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:17 pm

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I hate that Chara might be a good fade.

Chara/Skitter were the 2 most likely to be drafted in some shape or form, so it might actually be worth fading one/Xtoxm loyal messages the other tonight =/
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Post Post #4826 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:18 pm

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In post 4823, Flavor Leaf wrote:I thought about just having the 1, but I wanted to put a couple names on it for that reason
Yeah that's good, the info alone from submitting 7 names and having 3 comes back is pretty useful IMO. Although it's traded off with the fact that the least likely scum picks are also probably extremely readable people too making them good NK candidates at some point in the game, which would be bad for Masonries

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Post Post #4827 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:19 pm

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Who did Xtoxm loyal message the previous nights?

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Post Post #4828 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:19 pm

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starcrossed, then gamma, but he's disloyal on evens
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Post Post #4829 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:22 pm

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Honestly, I think it might be Fade Skitter, Message Chara.
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Post Post #4830 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:22 pm

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and ill take skitter reads into consideration if town.
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Post Post #4831 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:27 pm

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In post 4788, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 4787, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4781, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:I know it's not super spicy but I want to be convinced on Skitter!town and also Chara!town.
Hmmmmm? I thought ur slot was convinced i am scum
Recalled how I tunnelled you super hard in that game a few months ago with all those roles and felt guilty, I think that your scumread of my slot alone is pretty scummy but if there's a strong case to be made for town!you I'd like to be convinced.

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I, uh, actually went looking for this game and i'm not sure what this is >.>
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Post Post #4832 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:28 pm

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In post 4810, Firebringer wrote:i feel like everyones opinions of me are so vapid that i could probably iso anyone give any damn read i wanted on that person and any analysis and no one would question it even if its inconsistent with earlier positions ive taken.
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Post Post #4833 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:29 pm

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In post 4830, Flavor Leaf wrote:and ill take skitter reads into consideration if town.
Ok sounds good: look in xtoxm/venus/chara/tweetie and note that tweetie/chara are not tvt
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Post Post #4834 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:36 pm

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In post 4832, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4810, Firebringer wrote:i feel like everyones opinions of me are so vapid that i could probably iso anyone give any damn read i wanted on that person and any analysis and no one would question it even if its inconsistent with earlier positions ive taken.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #4835 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:37 pm

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btw i am almost done with my catboi analysis
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Post Post #4836 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:46 pm

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In post 4831, skitter30 wrote:I, uh, actually went looking for this game and i'm not sure what this is >.>
I'm very glad it's out of your memory, I just recalled the name of the game: Blood on The Clocktower. Xtoxm modded, I tunnelled you and Nahdia
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hard throughout the friggin game remember?

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Post Post #4837 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:46 pm

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In post 4835, Firebringer wrote:btw i am almost done with my catboi analysis
h y p e

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Post Post #4838 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:48 pm

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In post 4836, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:
In post 4831, skitter30 wrote:I, uh, actually went looking for this game and i'm not sure what this is >.>
I'm very glad it's out of your memory, I just recalled the name of the game: Blood on The Clocktower. Xtoxm modded, I tunnelled you and Nahdia
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hard throughout the friggin game remember?

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Ah that one. I think mostly cuz it isnt a mafia game, didnt feel like a real game.

Either way i dont really mind u smumreading me here, but i'm kinda, like, not sure why u are even?
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Post Post #4839 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:49 pm

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In post 4833, skitter30 wrote:note that tweetie/chara are not tvt
Yo can you (re)-explain it to me sorry
Or is there some mechanical reason

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Post Post #4840 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:49 pm

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In post 4838, skitter30 wrote:Either way i dont really mind u smumreading me here, but i'm kinda, like, not sure why u are even?
Almost purely out of your read of my slot

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Post Post #4841 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 8:53 pm

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Spoiler: Catboiis free personality test
We are going to start this “case” or dissection by going through past games of catboii, and seeing if I can determine a baseline behavior pattern to put them on my personality meter, then figure out how they differ/fit into the model of them in this game to those games (only going to use 2)

So, a few things, catboi seems like one of those players that falls into the “analytical” spectrum of players. Not reading into word/choices or what it feels like the player is doing just going by what a player thought patterns are to replicate that. I won’t go into difference on analytical vs tone players. Another thing is when I look into his posts he is lower on the emotional reactivity, and much more on the passive side of game progression. He neither makes heavy pushes, but also never reacts super emotionally to the game events. This prediction of him being on the analytical is shown in another game he admits he is bad at reading the emotions. So I think that analysis is checked out. Go me. On the spectrum of gameplay I am not sure where he falls under as I can probably pierce together a mafia philosophy of gameplay but its probably more loose than a stringent set of rules as say not sure who to compare maybe northsidegal?

So if I rate this player on a list of dimensions I get something like: (lower means goes for first trait on the spectrum and higher goes for second)
Analytical vs Tone : 1
Reactive vs Calm: 8
Aggressive vs Passive: 9
Chaos vs Order : 6

So in this I am not sure what tools catboi goes about to manipulate people. I should have rough idea if this is what I think his personality is that I should predict what I see in this game or if any extreme two tells of deviation from expectations that means scum or something.
I didn’t find a scum game to go look through only read one.

Time to go through ISO of current game to see how I think of it:

Okay the first thing I get when I read catboi posts is he already feeling like he is off his own register for Reactive situation, he has more kindy lovey dovey posts than he has had in other game it could just be environment he is in that im not factoring in, but so many posts I am looking at just from first few do not feel the same as other game I read. Post 285 would be interesting post to make to partner. I like how he pointed that I unwnd point about me was wrong about me not posting wasn’t scummy and that I enjoy playing scum. Don’t know how he knew that cause I don’t remember playing with him in long time, maybe his teammates told him? I think I am just reaching there. I don’t know good kind of observation therei noticed. I think catboi earlier posts have leveled off my suspicion starting to think its my earlier pings were environment of early day one. If you look at catboi vote on the deepwolf I will say I don’t think it was a buss vote. Not that I think caatboi wouldn’t buss but I think if you are bussing you are going to make more attempts to get towncred than catboi is, he kind of just throws a vote down, not even like a “hey teammate get ur ass in gear need ur help” kind of way sometimes scum do.

Ugh. Gonna be honest here with you folks. When I went into this iso Im like thinking “I have too many townreads I hope I come out with a scumread on catboi.” Then I am not. I could deep dive some of the laterposts more but I don’t feel my mind is changing on this right now. Feels pretty much like a town catboi.

But I really don’t know how catboi!scum plays differently I am just assuming that scum catboi plays around with the reads more to flavors liking. Which maybe he is doing. I don’t see it to much and really how does one play around with flavors reads flavor feels like he goes back and forth more than a taxi
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Post Post #4842 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:51 pm

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In post 4736, Glory and Mel wrote:claiming motion detector
n1 targetted ydra there was motion
n2 targetted skitter there was motion
In post 4739, Glory and Mel wrote:ya skitter i can verify you didn't go anywhere
Then how was there motion? *confused*
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Post Post #4843 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:53 pm

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In post 4742, Glory and Mel wrote:actually claiming tracker now
ydra went nowhere and skitter went nowhere
So the actual motion was ON them then? Is that what you’re saying? So then I don’t understand your read on them in that case?
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Post Post #4844 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:55 pm

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In post 4750, Flavor Leaf wrote:i got really sad for a second
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Post Post #4845 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:58 pm

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In post 4759, skitter30 wrote:Ok i'm trying to see if there's something i could talk to u abt

Can i interest u in voting any of chara/xtoxm/venus?
Is it actually possible that town!you is seriously still this bad at reading me? Because at this point, I’d expect town!you to realize why it make absolutely no sense for me to be scum here.
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Post Post #4846 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:04 pm

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In post 4768, Glory and Mel wrote:Ydrasse - ???
Glory and Mel (Gamma Emerald+Alisae) - town
Venus Mars and Pluto (Nancy Drew 39, Auro, and Shiro) - ???
Morning Tweet - ???
Titus - town
Xtoxm - town
Starcrossed (Pooky+Kanna Hydra) - town
Hopkirk - town
Lunar Martian - town
chkflip - town
Dannflor - scum
Firebringer - ???
skitter30 - town feels townie tbh
unwnd - town
RCEnigma - town
catboiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii - town mostly cuz gut something doesn't feel right for this to be scum
Chara - ???
Why are dead slots even in this list?

How tf are we still a question mark?
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Post Post #4847 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:09 pm

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In post 4787, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4781, Venus Mars and Pluto wrote:I know it's not super spicy but I want to be convinced on Skitter!town and also Chara!town.
Hmmmmm? I thought ur slot was convinced i am scum
I would just think that town!you’d have figured out by now that this isn’t my scumgame here.
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Post Post #4848 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:11 pm

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In post 4789, Glory and Mel wrote:it could just be {Venus, Fire, Chara} but Venus is a were slot to draft cuz i can't rly think of a reason why hectic drafts them and i can't rly think of a reason as to why you draft them in this game period
Why do you sr Fire?
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Post Post #4849 (ISO) » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:16 pm

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In post 4792, Glory and Mel wrote:no it comes from the fact that ur okay with skitter scum and chara scum
???

We’re okay with whomever actually IS scum here being yeeted. And now you’re sus on Fire. I still don’t understand why?

You also sr me for a very specific reason and then once you found out it was invalid, still sr us.

And why were your preferred yeets, apparently 2 slots with motion on them who didn’t actually go anywhere?
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