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Hmmmmm...it may indeed be illogical to kill.

****Let's hear everyones 4 remaining scum.

I'm thinking Trilo/Kunk...then it has to be feysal-nacho-vv. If we just lynch accordingly, we'll probably be alright.

We should have me and Xvart switch to ressing duty. Meaning Xvart will have to get one tonight.

EDIT: The fact that Trilo mentions me as cult is comical. He definitely dies today.

We have Ice not kill me...No Biggie. Tomorrow worse case scenario is 6-4 (Assuming Triglavs kill is blocked and your town...yeahhhriiiiiiight). Can't goto 5-4 because Xvart has suicide...g-g ressing him . So Ice can't kill me. Sorry bud!

The problem is that the same logic dictates that scum can win the game by sneaking votes in while we test for suicidal.

If Kunkstar pulls a plum and is town is the only way we lose. And I'm fine with that.

That'd mean Triglavs kill goes through and we're 5-4. Us being 6-4 isn't a threat because our suicides dont stack

Iecerint wrote:The problem is that the same logic dictates that scum can win the game by sneaking votes in while we test for suicidal.

Soooo suicide testing for the time being may be out of the question until we see trilo and kunk flip cult.

Benmage you need to face it. Your kill attempt on Spy was confirmed by Spy, who is proven cult. He could have been lying and you are actually cult as a gambit to give you town cred.

It IS possible. (But it's not something I'm going to worry about because the game is going to take care of you one way or another.

I think it's absolutely critical to lynch Kunkstar today, regardless of the claimed stalk on him, it reduces the body count overnight and allows Iec to kill Benmage.

If you think we're scum with Kunk and Feysal, let's lynch them first Ben. C'mon man.

Blegh, having multiple browsers open sucks.

Benmage you need to face it. Your kill attempt on Spy was confirmed by Spy, who is proven cult. He could have been lying and you are actually cult as a gambit to give you town cred.

It IS possible. (But it's not something I'm going to worry about because the game is going to take care of you one way or another.

I think it's absolutely critical to lynch Kunkstar today, regardless of the claimed stalk on him, it reduces the body count overnight and allows Iec to kill Benmage.

If you think we're scum with Kunk and Feysal, let's lynch them first Ben. C'mon man.

LOL! We can't afford to have Ice kill me. Keep up buddy.

Oh and there was no reason for me to bus SpyreX...I mean really?!?!?!?!? SpyreX...Jesus pick any other cult to bus and It'd be smarter. You're cult re--------------aching.

If we lynch Kunk, we can.

He is almost certainly going to flip cult and that leaves 3-6 assuming your death and a cult ritual. (Unless you flip cult, and then we're in even better shape.)

ORRR we lynch you, and have Triglav take a shot at Kunk.. You sound like cult ran outta res kits and is scambling to not be knocked down 2 blows. Keep selling me.

I'm loving where this game is going.

If Kunk is cult the shot on him is most likely going to fail.

By the way, it does make strategic sense to res Xvart until he actually is sucessfully stalked, because the cult killing him prevents someone without suicidal confirming themselves at the cost of xvart's life. (Just thought I would point that out.)

Yeah...cult setting up a scenario that makes SX look cult to kind-of make Benmage (who ALREADY didn't look like cult) look uncult is not plausible.

EDIT: Yeah, not to mention that SX isn't exactly a crappy player.

The funny thing is that I actually wanted to stalk for days now and Sotty has been talking me out of it each time.

Trilobite wrote: By the way, it does make strategic sense to res Xvart until he actually is sucessfully stalked, because the cult killing him prevents someone without suicidal confirming themselves at the cost of xvart's life. (Just thought I would point that out.)

Uhhh.... We want cult killing me and him so that we aren't in greater danger or speedlynching due to our Suicide insanity...But go ahead and tell me again Why Seacore wasn't ressed by you?

Can you not just admit it? I'm loving the vigor. But Andrius was funnier.

Benmage wrote:

Trilobite wrote: By the way, it does make strategic sense to res Xvart until he actually is sucessfully stalked, because the cult killing him prevents someone without suicidal confirming themselves at the cost of xvart's life. (Just thought I would point that out.)

Uhhh.... We want cult killing me and him so that we aren't in greater danger or speedlynching due to our Suicide insanity...But go ahead and tell me again Why Seacore wasn't ressed by you?

Can you not just admit it? I'm loving the vigor. But Andrius was funnier.

There's nothing to admit but the fact that we should have ressed Seacore and that getting lynched for ressing xvart instead would be one of the most depressing moments I've had to endure in the entire history of my mafia career.

*sigh*

Benmage wrote:

Trilobite wrote: By the way, it does make strategic sense to res Xvart until he actually is sucessfully stalked, because the cult killing him prevents someone without suicidal confirming themselves at the cost of xvart's life. (Just thought I would point that out.)

Uhhh.... We want cult killing me and him so that we aren't in greater danger or speedlynching due to our Suicide insanity...But go ahead and tell me again Why Seacore wasn't ressed by you?

Can you not just admit it? I'm loving the vigor. But Andrius was funnier.

There's nothing to admit but the fact that we should have ressed Seacore and that getting lynched for ressing xvart instead would be one of the most depressing moments I've had to endure in the entire history of my mafia career.

Trilobite wrote:*sigh*

Benmage wrote:

Trilobite wrote: By the way, it does make strategic sense to res Xvart until he actually is sucessfully stalked, because the cult killing him prevents someone without suicidal confirming themselves at the cost of xvart's life. (Just thought I would point that out.)

Uhhh.... We want cult killing me and him so that we aren't in greater danger or speedlynching due to our Suicide insanity...But go ahead and tell me again Why Seacore wasn't ressed by you?

Can you not just admit it? I'm loving the vigor. But Andrius was funnier.

There's nothing to admit but the fact that we should have ressed Seacore and that getting lynched for ressing xvart instead would be one of the most depressing moments I've had to endure in the entire history of my mafia career.

Well you can't blame me for doing the logical thing. I would expect the same done to me if roles were reversed...Lets just hope (if you are town) this doesn't cost us the game.

Again tomorrow (since Ice isn't killing) is 6-4 worse case scenario.

Now go get us a 4 cult suspect if you want...I'm done here, superbowel time.

Wife has a POE sheet, we'll work on it quick here.

We've had Benmage as uncertain, but I think we're going to file him town.

From most likely to least.

Kunk
Feysal
Triglav
Nacho/TNM
VP
Vas

Town:
Benmage
Nico
Xvart
Iec

Confident in Feysal and Kunk flipping scum.

Reasonbly strong scum read on Trig

Nacho, TNM and VP we're not sure on. Nacho and TNM are neutral leaning scum and VP is neutral leaning town.

Vas is a town read, but we're not entirely confident filing him town.

Is funny that people wanted me to be stalked just yesterday. O_O

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Not Voting (11) - (, Feysal, Iecerint, kunkstar7, Nachomamma8, Nicodemus, totallynotmafia, Triglav, Trilobite, VasudeVa, VP Baltar, xvart)

Iec wrote:The only reason I might disagree with you is that (I think?) someone has claimed a successful stalk on Kunkstar. Scum are probably holding a rez kit for it, though...

I've been thinking about this. I'm kind of half inclined to let the person (Triglav?) go through with it. kunk is pretty likely cult and letting Triglav murder him gets rid of a cult and confirms a town player, which is our maximum benefit we can get from the situation. I don't know how many rezz kits the cult even have left. They appear to have wasted one trying to frame me, which was a pretty hilarious gaff if you ask me. Could have been a ploy to save kunk, who knows. But even if they have one and decide to save kunk tonight, then its one less rezz kit they have for two nights (since the offending cultist would have to launder too). Then we get investigator-Triglav and lynch kunk tomorrow, plus a hamstringed cultist that can't stop the murdering in the future. The other side of the argument is to lynch kunk today, which likely bags us a cult but leaves Triglav unconfirmed and leaves a potential rezz kit in the hands of cult.

Benmage wrote:Let's hear everyones 4 remaining scum.

kunk
Nacho
Iec (pending resolution)
Feysal

Trilo wrote:I think it's absolutely critical to lynch Kunkstar today, regardless of the claimed stalk on him, it reduces the body count overnight and allows Iec to kill Benmage.

Well, I think you're looking at this from the perspective of kunk v. Trilo....which I don't think needs to be the case at all. I'm not so sold on Trilo-scum really. I think we could bag and tag two cultists today by lynching maybe Nacho or Feysal and having Triglav kill kunk tonight. I'm pretty sure that would essentially seal this game for town.

Trilo wrote:If Kunk is cult the shot on him is most likely going to fail.

Why? After so many nights of rezzing, I'm not even certain the scum would have kits left. Plus keep in mind that if they ritual they get bloody and lose kits. I have a feeling it's unlikely they could stop Triglav.

Iec wrote:Yeah...cult setting up a scenario that makes SX look cult to kind-of make Benmage (who ALREADY didn't look like cult) look uncult is not plausible.

EDIT: Yeah, not to mention that SX isn't exactly a crappy player.

Why are you sucking up to Benmage so hard? I don't think it's that unlikely to bus Spyrex actually. I dont' think he was playing a particularly great game from what I saw and judging from how many insanities he flipped with, I don't think the cult were exactly planning on sending him to endgame. Bussing him early to confirm a hypo-cult Benmage isn't THAT absurd. You two are making me paranoid as shit, particularly with how you're both quickly trying to get out murdering Benmage. Iec, do you think it's best that you don't follow through with your stalk?


Looking at Trilo's town list, I feel like i am forgetting something that is supposed to be confirming Iec...what did he do again? I thought he hadn't murdered yet, but if he has then I need to adjust my reads accordingly.

CD8

Username: Nicodemus

Did you Hear Noise?

I wasn't told in my results pm. I guess not.

Did you Ward? If so, who?

No

Did you gain Insanities, and if so, which ones and from what actions?

Yes. I frickin' cowered again.

List all of the insanities you currently have:

6 - Twitchy, Solist, Compulsion

Did you

successfully

resuscitate? If so, who?

No

Were you murdered?

No

Did you Commune or Investigate? If so, who, and what result?

No

Are you bloody?

No

Did you Stalk? If so, on who, and was it successful?

No. I meant to stalk Iec, as his was the name that came up when I randomized the stalk list. It obviously did not go through however.

Twitch?

*twitch*

Vote: Nicodemus

Unvote, Vote: Benmage

Unvote, Vote: Xvart

Unvote, Vote: Benmage

Unvote, Vote: Xvart

Unvote

Yeah, so fuck me I cowered again last night. I could have sworn I sent my night actions to both Vi and Percy, so I was shocked when I got my night action results pm. I checked my outbox and my sentbox, and I guess I must have previewed my pms instead of sending them, because they didn't show up in my sentbox at all. So, because I cowered I took compulsion. I figure anything that dictates my night actions from here on out could only help town at this point.

I realize this does not look good for me at all, but there's really not a lot I can say except sorry, I royally screwed up, and I hope that you can look past it.

Okay, so I've been reading along because I was hoping I could get this straightened out before I posted, but Percy has indeed confirmed that he can't accept my intended night actions after night has already ended. However, I am caught up, and I wanted to ask a couple things.

@Trilo: When was your PoE list assembled?

@Benmage: Why are you reluctant to be murdered after you've spent days telling us to murder you?

EBWOP: Total insanities should be 3, not 6.