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Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:17 am
by Faster Than Light
In post 4822, Andrius wrote:varsoon where are you I miss you
how do you feel about lynching nacho?
I'm against it.
Metal Sonic trusts you and is all for it.
I trust you and I am suspicious of the slot but hesitant to vote it over my highest scum-suspects. I don't know if scum nacho has the gall to say shit like "I'm gonna coast on my conf-town status". He refused to claim as a part of my gambit, and I don't know if that was because he didn't want to out himself as VT or if he was starting to suspect I could really divine his alignment via shenanigans. After I outed him as Vanilla, he claimed it, but that was under substantial pressure from more than just me.
How do you feel about lynching nacho?
I feel really uncomfortable about all of D5. TF's touting some power play, Antihero's being called into question by Waynegg and BROseidon, etc etc.
Gonna spend some time in some ISOs when I have the time to spend.
-V
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:19 am
by Faster Than Light
In post 4847, Ghostlin wrote:
Vote: Nacho
I'm fairly fucking sure you killed Muff last night. Prepare to die. Also, like Mac's Desp wagon.
Can you explain your Nacho read a bit further? What would Nacho have to gain from killing zMuffin?
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:20 am
by Ghostlin
Well, fuck. No one wanted me to claim the mason part. Oh, well. Fact is, with this adjoining role, I'm not going to fucking make it to XyLo.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:27 am
by Ghostlin
In post 4851, Faster Than Light wrote: In post 4847, Ghostlin wrote:
Vote: Nacho
I'm fairly fucking sure you killed Muff last night. Prepare to die. Also, like Mac's Desp wagon.
Can you explain your Nacho read a bit further? What would Nacho have to gain from killing zMuffin?
Despite Nacho's (--snerk--) heavy lifting, there are few enough people that are bought into the Nacho wagon, and I have a misguided thought that the orgy of evidence fallacy is in play here. Or rather: why would Nacho kill people who know him? WIFOM if you're not a TVtropes buff.
This isn't the Nacho of Xenosaga. This is a Nacho that's content to go with popular wagons (like Mala and AJ and really Rach was a sacrificial lamb there). There are no Day 4 soliloquy. There's not even a modicum of passion here. He doesn't give a shit, and considering we're WINNING, that's really, really off. This is a Nacho that is using his reputation as almost a casual shield of arrogance.
Do I have 100% proof of what I just said? No, but I've also had a pretty good track record this game. Had you listened to me, we would of lynched Mala instead of Nick and be even closer to winning. In other words, this is a Nacho that's much lower key in the late game than he should be.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:34 am
by Ghostlin
If for some unknown fucking reason Nacho is town and he's just deliberately being this lazy, first off, really dude? "I'm obvtown so I'm going to coast?" Fucking REALLY?
Secondly, keeping him alive when he's an obvious PoE choice isn't helping Town really. He's self admitted to coasting and unlikely to change.
Thirdly, why was he so hard to lynch yesterday. If I had a lazy Nacho and was scum, I'd be on that wagon like shit on stink. If you could get rid of a player that is admittedly, as good as this game as almost anyone that's being lazy but could just pwn you late game, wouldn't you take it? We lynched AJ in -two pages-.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:30 pm
by notscience
If it wasn't fucking obvious he's following suit with syry and taking jabs at me.
I'm having a shitty time this game thus far. I'm going to do a soft reset and try to refresh myself.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:07 pm
by BROseidon
If it's only a soft-reset, which parts are you reseting less/not at all?
Also, wtf happened to mass claim.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:16 pm
by Ghostlin
I claimed, Bro. Td claims next?
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:20 pm
by BROseidon
I saw that you claimed in a really dumb way >:C
TD and Mac remain, I think (I don't think Mac has full-claimed)
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:56 pm
by Andrius
Ghostlin crumbed mason to me a few days ago, hence the mastin/venmar read reversal.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:48 pm
by Trust Fund
Wow. I'm reading AJ"s ISO. Some interesting stuff in there. He can't keep his scumreads straight. When I wake up I want to do some color coding of his posts, I have an idea.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:53 pm
by Faster Than Light
In post 4850, Faster Than Light wrote: In post 4822, Andrius wrote:varsoon where are you I miss you
how do you feel about lynching nacho?
I'm against it.
Metal Sonic trusts you and is all for it.
I trust you and I am suspicious of the slot but hesitant to vote it over my highest scum-suspects. I don't know if scum nacho has the gall to say shit like "I'm gonna coast on my conf-town status". He refused to claim as a part of my gambit, and I don't know if that was because he didn't want to out himself as VT or if he was starting to suspect I could really divine his alignment via shenanigans. After I outed him as Vanilla, he claimed it, but that was under substantial pressure from more than just me.
How do you feel about lynching nacho?
I feel really uncomfortable about all of D5. TF's touting some power play, Antihero's being called into question by Waynegg and BROseidon, etc etc.
Gonna spend some time in some ISOs when I have the time to spend.
-V
Ehhh clarification
im against nacho lynch
Nacho was counter wagon to AJscum thats why i feel that possible andyscum is pushing on nachotown
which is why if nacho gives the word to lynch andy i will do so because andy not reading nacho is </3
also Bro vs antihero back and forth was insightful
i find antihero the town and bro the scumm
but that would mean that I am wrong on one of my reads
for example
scum are in
<Nacho/Andy(1 only), TF, Bro(?), Desp(PoE. Also too much mudslinging)>
that is too much a scum read.
what if andy and nacho are both town
but nacho says andy cant read him
but nacho can read andy
but if nacho is scum he would fake a read on andy
this is so painful
if we wanna clear the nacho/andy thing nacho has to hammer andy so we get another scum down
but if we wanna be safe we can look at TF/Bro/Desp
I think TF might be a dumbass after all and not scum
i dont know will discuss with varsoon
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:55 pm
by Faster Than Light
In post 4747, Faster Than Light wrote:
I am above average tier annie player
I also play shaco
i am willing to get andy lynched because
1. he can crush scumz if town
2. he was sidetracking from the aj-scumwagon as scum
3. he cant read nacho ;-;
buttttt
if andy is town and nacho is town both die
if andy is scumz and nacho is town then good
if andy is town and nacho is scumz then good
mmm
but nacho reads andy as town
i read nacho as town
oh dear
as long as nacho gives the word to vote andy i will join wagon
but meanwhile lets wonder who is scum
this is what i meant
nacho counterwagon to ajscum is probably not scum but if scum can be determined by Andy's magic powers
actually
whoever was on the nacho wagon needs to be looked at ----> counterwagon to ajscum
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:55 pm
by Faster Than Light
In post 4747, Faster Than Light wrote:
I am above average tier annie player
I also play shaco
i am willing to get andy lynched because
1. he can crush scumz if town
2. he was sidetracking from the aj-scumwagon as scum
3. he cant read nacho ;-;
buttttt
if andy is town and nacho is town both die
if andy is scumz and nacho is town then good
if andy is town and nacho is scumz then good
mmm
but nacho reads andy as town
i read nacho as town
oh dear
as long as nacho gives the word to vote andy i will join wagon
but meanwhile lets wonder who is scum
this is what i meant
nacho counterwagon to ajscum is probably not scum but if scum can be determined by Andy's magic powers
actually
whoever was on the nacho wagon needs to be looked at ----> counterwagon to ajscum
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:57 pm
by Faster Than Light
In post 4671, borkjerfkin wrote:
[8] Aj The Epic (Nachomamma8, Faster Than Light, Desperado, waynegg, Mac, notscience, BROseidon, Trust Fund)
[4] Nachomamma8 (zMuffinMan, Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath, Andrius)
[2] Not Voting (Aj The Epic, Antihero)
With 14 alive, it is 8 to lynch.
Let me know if you see any problems.
A lynch has been reached! Scene coming when I've got the time to get it up but might not be for a few hours.
uhh the nacho wagon seems to be full of town though... the only unknown is andy
i will ask varsoon to get a read solidified
also
V/LA till Friday
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:58 pm
by Trust Fund
As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.
Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.
Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:15 pm
by Faster Than Light
In post 4865, Trust Fund wrote:As syr pointed out, it's very possible that since AJ was a traitor, it was a split wagon on scum and scum.
Also, MS, I don't care what you call me so long as you don't go getting modkilled again like in death's diner.
Waynegg: I think it's time to break out the scumputer. You mastered using it yet? I'll have the vote counts colored in tomorrow evening.
Hey cabd, you rock. but your play in this game is lackluster. I've seen better play from you bro, good thing you're stepping it up
and its unlikely that it was a split wagon on scum and scum. AJ pubclaimed traitor after claiming bpv. "my role pm says there's a traitor in this game!" "my role pm says i'm a bullet proof!"
well at least he wasn't lying.
but yeah thats pretty much a traitor claim so im pretty sure scum would have seen that if they knew the existence of a traitor
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:17 pm
by Faster Than Light
Trust Fund wrote:
You quoted him and said yeah you're probably right. Now you disown Sonic's reads?
Also my entire response to the rest is: see syr's post.
Muffin was really obviously scum mason hunting. Speaking of other mason still needs to step forward.
In post 4750, Faster Than Light wrote: In post 4748, Faster Than Light wrote:maybe TF + Andy is the scum
yes that look possible from the back-and-forth just the page before
also it is cool that the scum love shooting VTs isnt that great
This.
I mentioned this before.
Maybe people will listen to me now?
Still think that TF is scum.
-V
Hold on, what was that?
Trust Fund wrote:
You quoted him and said
yeah you're probably right.
I mean like man, how do you even slip like that? I hold you in high regard, come help the town hunt scum, instead of getting hunted yourself.
also no I'm not gonna get modkilled with varsoon here <3
slandaar was the scum in the dethy i wouldn't have guessed that! he played a good game!
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:25 pm
by Andrius
varsoon wrote:
Nacho was counter wagon to AJscum thats why i feel that possible andyscum is pushing on nachotown
which is why if nacho gives the word to lynch andy i will do so because andy not reading nacho is </3
then lynch me
nacho hammers
like
nacho is being way too passive this game
even on his read for me
and yes ofc he's going to fake a townread on me as scum
what else CAN he do?
he scumreads me ---> insta-andy lynch
andy flips town
he looks hella' bad
so he cant scumread me
so he townreads me
and does a bit of the paranoia and undermining
(like he's been doing)
like
there is no love going on at all
there is no town/town
there is no TRIUMVIRATE or even pretense of us both being town from either of us
I really don't think he's town
and if you're unwilling to OBVTOWN me for the RM lynch (which was actually a counterwagon) and willing to OBVTOWN nacho for the AJ lynch (where the "counterwagon" was really not) you really need to reevaluate how you evaluate OBVTOWN by counterwagons
still think aj/nacho both being scum is plausible
the obv counterwagon does give me pause BUT
BUT
me/ghostlin/mastin all being SCUMCHO cannot be wrong
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:26 pm
by Andrius
regardless
I need to be dead before nacho lynch
because he will talk to me and be all THEN DONT KILL ME and make me sad he is dying and will make me regret lynching a brother like him
but man
this is the best way
the best the only way
because he's NACHO
and I cannot compete with that level of literacy and skill in a headtohead
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:28 pm
by Andrius
I don't have magic powers
I explode
I go boom
someone goes boom
profit
unless you meant my charming personality in which case meh
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:32 pm
by Andrius
TOWN
Ghostlin
Venmar
FasterThanLight
Desperado
mutleyddmc
mac
TiphanieDeath
SCUM
Trust Fund
BROseidon
Nachomamma8
NACHO, I LEAVE IT ALL TO YOU
COME INSIDE AND BE AFRAID OF THIS IMPRESSIVE MESS IVE MADE
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:32 pm
by Andrius
that list was made forgetting about the shitload of prs we also have claimed that I forgot about
lol
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:34 pm
by Andrius
still don't think this many investigative prs can all be town
still wonder about mutley's alignment
because that shot was literally the only thing he had going for him and it was a TOWNSLOT he vigged- yes it was saki and he's a useless fuck but like that's great scum motivation for a 1shot vig or something idk
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:34 pm
by Andrius
also im not going to bother with Ghostlin's breadcrumb to me unless someone is really really curious