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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:07 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
I don't remember which post I was going to quote, but I was going to tell mhork to stop being so jumpy. One person disagrees with him, so he changes his vote.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:15 pm
by ProHawk
In post 4808, Lord Mhork wrote:Whatever you say, Harakiri. Clearly I am the reason that this town is losing. It couldn't possibly be your terrible reads if you happen to be town.

However whatev's. VOTE: penguin_alien

We can do penguin first if you want.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:24 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
Argh. I'm trying to quote the bit on the last page where lost butterfly asked me to send another message so I can laugh decisively, but that shit is hard to do from a phone.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:30 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 4834, Lost Butterfly wrote:
In post 4832, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Let's try that again
In post 4801, 1baldeagle1 wrote:uwop, does it not concern you that confirmed scum is on the wagon? This goes for Hara as well. I'm pretty sure it's a scum victory after my lynch. Nero is going for the win, obviously.
We're also voting certain scum, so that's win/win!
What exactly makes you so confident on eagle-scum?
Because I choose not to believe he's an idiot.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:33 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 4837, ProHawk wrote:
In post 4835, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:
In post 4817, ProHawk wrote:People I am wiling to lynch: Upside Down, Harakiri, Lord Butterfly.
How can I say this without sounding omgusy? Shut the fuck up, you crazy conspiracy theorist.
Why would you care about sounding omgusy?

Also, I figured what the heck, I haven't won anything this game, probably wont so I figured I would give my money to the person I felt most likely to be town.
Because I don't want to vote for you?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:06 pm
by Magua
Vote Count 6.17


With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

1baldeagle1 (4): Harakiri, Nero Cain, uʍop ǝpısdn, VoidedMafia
Harakiri (2): ProHawk, penguin_alien
uʍop ǝpısdn (1): 1baldeagle1
penguin_alien (1): Lord Mhork
VoidedMafia (1): Lost Butterfly

Not Voting (3): zMuffinMan, BBmolla, Garuda

Deadline for Day 6 is Friday, December 27th, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 4:55 pm
by uʍop ǝpısdn
In post 4839, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 4836, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:
In post 4800, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 4763, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:
In post 4761, 1baldeagle1 wrote:
In post 4758, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:Baldeagle please answer my queation.
Was getting to it, but got interrupted.

I don't understand the question, because the game has the similar tone he has here. I learned that Voided tends to be a bit more "angry" when town.
Which question of mine are you answering here? Not the one I fucking asked you.

How is your meta read chang on voided any different than what you are calling quilford and molla out for? O
Because I actually have reasons for calling Voided town. You guys were like "he's town lolz". Literally at the same time.
That's... the exact opposite of what happened?
Oh shut the fuck up. I did explain it. . To make the 2nd sentence a bit more clear, you guys said "he's town lolz" to each other.

ProHawk, please move your vote over to uwop. Mhork, if you can do that, that would be nice. He is trying to get me lynched over lies and he's doing anything he can do to discredit people.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5510623

Please at least pretend to look for context.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:15 pm
by Lord Mhork
Why is it stupid?
It's another lynch
, LB. We should vote on it.

I decided not to follow the plan because it didn't seem to be working. Anyway the only thing about me not following the plan was me deciding to skip out on advertising. It didn't seem to be doing anything and frankly I was starting to feel a little paranoid.

@Eagle:
Better idea. You come on to Harakiri and we can lynch obvscum and win!

@Harakiri:
HE IS NOT SCUM. I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER
EVER
SUPPORT AND EAGLE LYNCH. HE IS NOT SCUM[/I]

@Voided:
When did your reads turn to shit?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:18 pm
by Garuda
In post 4808, Lord Mhork wrote:Whatever you say, Harakiri. Clearly I am the reason that this town is losing. It couldn't possibly be your terrible reads if you happen to be town.

However whatev's. VOTE: penguin_alien

We can do penguin first if you want.
This seems a decent vote and better than the rest of the wagons happening today.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:20 pm
by Garuda
In post 4810, Lord Mhork wrote:Because I literally cannot care any less and no one seems too eager to snuff out Hara. In fact we could just have LB shoot him. That could work.
No one is eager to snuff out Hara because you don't have anything resembling a case on them and they have been pretty obnoxiously town the whole game.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:20 pm
by Garuda
In post 4816, 1baldeagle1 wrote:So, you guys don't give a fuck whether confirmed scum is on my wagon and that he is barely pushing it? Yeah, uwop is scum and I feel less happy about Hara.
I don't think Nero being on your wagon is a strong confirmation of you being town. Do you?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:31 pm
by Garuda
In post 4844, Lost Butterfly wrote:VOTE: Voidedmafia
I don't understand where this vote is coming from.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:33 pm
by Garuda
In post 4846, Lost Butterfly wrote:Garuda, why have you been so passive today?
I dunno, felt like it. Why do you think Mhork is town again?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:35 pm
by Garuda
The really sad part about today is that the one wagon that I really want to vote is being spearheaded by Mhork

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm
by Garuda
Guess I'm going through my townreads again...

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:04 pm
by Garuda
Molla 1v1 with wupside down made him look town as fuck, recent posts seem pretty genuine. Early game was lucky but not bad at all, don't really see any reasons for him being scum. Is he play unfakeable to the point where there's no way in hell he's scum? No, but it still seems unlikely.

I liked the majority of upside downs posting until they went quiet for a while when N went to America or not Australia, wherever the hell he went. I thought Quilford posting was fairly town where it occurred, and I also like the part he played in the 1v1.

Harakiri has basically been town as shit for a really really long time, from wage freeze to ignoring the plan to Sakura. I can't see scum Harakiri showing up in the QT after their scumteam forgot to bid on night kill and just going "oh fuck missed deadline :(".

Voided I still think is town. I note that the fluff and never saying anything point is something that happens regardless of his alignment; the passion demonstrated in his push on Prohawk earlier was something completely missing from his pushes elsewhere.

ProHawk has been playing townProHawk to the hilt.

Muffin is the weakest townread on the list, but he's still on it. I don't think LB would try to clear both of her partners with cop investigations, although completely possible. I really really like his reactions to Pieguy, and I like the fact that he was pushing on Nero as long and as strongly as he did.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:10 pm
by Garuda
I thought that things in Mhrok's favor were the Medium bit and the push on Nero and the initial claim which seemed pretty town. Other than that, there's not a whole lot pointing to Mhork town, minus the Nero-town theory. I thought that it was unlikely that Mhork would push Nero for so long and then come up with the conspiracy theory calling him town, but the medium bit is just being the mouthpiece for an actual townie, which isn't horribly difficult. The push on Nero doesn't matter a whole lot if they are scum from different sides, and I still can't make heads or tails of the conspiracy theory, considering that he was a strong proponent of the Nero lynch and believed very very strongly that he was scum until he was governed. I can understand people getting uneasy who weren't completely sold on Nero scum beforehand, but Mhork was essentially pusher #1.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:20 pm
by Garuda
The main event of things in eagles favor is eagle day 1 and Nero vote on eagle. Outside of that, there pretty much isn't anything. There's the vote freeze situation with ProHawk on VoidedMafia, push on Nero isn't horrible I guess, hate the way that he continuously uses Nero vote on him to clear himself because no the pure virtue of having mostly confirmed scum vote you doesn't make you town, but I suppose eagle wouldn't really notice that as town.
In post 4730, 1baldeagle1 wrote:After you guys lynch me, speedlynch the fuck out of Nero tomorrow. Anyone who posts on the site during the without adding a vote is claiming scum.
In post 4816, 1baldeagle1 wrote:So, you guys don't give a fuck whether confirmed scum is on my wagon and that he is barely pushing it? Yeah, uwop is scum and I feel less happy about Hara.
I don't understand why Nero barely pushing his wagon somehow makes him more town, but I guess this could just be confused as hell town flailing.

So I'm not really convinced of eagle scum, but there's a long way from eagle town too.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:26 pm
by Garuda
I thought Ghostlin coming in and going fuck the plan was pretty town, but after that... Not much. PA defending Nero on the investigation innocent point is a bad point on the record, and I can't see there being a point in the ISO save for that one moment where they refused to mass claim where I go (okay, those two are obvious town). The Harakiri vote sucks and I'd expect penguin to see why, backing off eagle because "not convinced" makes both look worse.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:33 pm
by Garuda
LB has done a lot of townie things, but them being scum just makes sense. Who were the towniest players in the game after D1? Pyro and Lost Butterfly, and Pyro was not really the strongest of leaders on D1; most people ignored them in favor of doing other things. Both are strong players, so why not shoot them N1? And now, this $1 night kill thing... Current theories supporting both are that one townie got the night kill because both scumteams locked each other out? They each thought the other would get it even though they haven't had trouble coordinating the night kill so far? Harakiri team was supposed to buy night kill and at minimum two people forgot to bid and they just reported that in the neighborhood QT... Why?

There's also the sketch Mhork "oh yeah they totally bought Nightkill" auction detective claim, which adds to those two being scum together, and LB investigating Nero as town when he's clearly not (Nero was the person the scumteam wanted most to protect? What?).

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:38 pm
by penguin_alien
Harakiri did the wage freeze?

UNVOTE: Harakiri

I'll reassess.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:43 pm
by ProHawk
Wage Freeze?!? They must be town.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:51 pm
by Voidedmafia
In post 4848, ProHawk wrote:Voided, without making an annoying wall of one-liner quote with commentary, tell me from what changed your read of LB from scum to refusal to vote in about 100 posts.
No. Read, don't ask for the TL;DR because I more often than not I won't give it.
In post 4857, Lord Mhork wrote:@Voided:When did your reads turn to shit?
idk. Why are you so retardedly stubborn about not lynching Eagle and why have you really stopped caring enough to try harder?
In post 4871, ProHawk wrote:Wage Freeze?!? They must be town.
NOW you're being fucktarded.

Garuda, can we all just vote Bald and be done for the day, then?

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:02 pm
by penguin_alien
In post 4871, ProHawk wrote:Wage Freeze?!? They must be town.
Why would scum bother buying Wage Freeze and use it? I could see trying to get it on the cheap, but why not store it? If they get called on it, say they're waiting for a better time to pull it out. The odds of even being called on it are slight.

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:18 pm
by ProHawk
Maybe because it makes them look town with little drawback. Wow, town gets a little more cash. Look what good it has done.

Voided, you are a moron.