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Ok, I'm starting on the wall here. For those of you playing along at home, the players I townread I tend to see have logical consistent thoughts, even if I disagree with them, as that's how I feel town should be playing. So if I like someone's contributions, their actions are logical, and consistent, I will more likely than not townread them. Someone jumps to a major townread if I feel like they are saying what I was trying to say better. If I can track someone's train of thought, that makes them predictable and more likely town. If they actually follow through with where I'm predicting them to be, that's a strong indicator they are town. If I am wrong on the townread, then I look back and know what they are pushing over something else and it gives me an idea as to what the alignment of other players are in the game. I like people who will clash with me (like Cheetory is doing but he could be less demeaning) because he's stating that he views the interpretation of the post differently and it guides him to a different conclusion. While I think Cheetory's analysis is not sound, it is valid IMO. Interpretations are frequently where I butt heads with other players.

Now that you understand why I give players the reads I do, now we're going to look at the specific posts from Bulba's ISO that give me similar feelings about him.

#352 - #357 and the exchange that followed regarding Mastina being town versus Mastina being scum over not posting is a very good position there. He's not whiteknighting Mastina but he's stating things that he believed to explain Town!Mastina. At the time, I disagreed with that read, but he explained it in a logical concise manner. His response to "nail Mastina to the floor" indicates a willingness to change his mind if he was wrong. Such posts indicate a person changing their opinion based on incoming facts rather than sticking to a narrative.

#657, The interaction here with DV feels natural and mirrors my attempts to sync up with my townreads. Neither Bulba nor myself are emotional players, so the fact he's pushing DV to explain his reads in terms he understands is good. A scum player can just dismiss those reads because they lack "evidence" and its what I would expect a logic based scumplayer to do.

#927 Bulbazak attempts to dismantle a meta foundation of my read, which is unlikely (but still possible) to come from scum. He didn't deny the facts I was using but provided real life context that I didn't have when saying that I thought even Bulba's meta was consistent with him being town.

#1207 I like the resistance to group!think, even though I like Marquis (now FormerFish) as town. Forming a group of people who all think each other are town, and eventually agree on a scumread after discussion is one thing. Following group think is a bad idea.

He also expresses the fact that many of his townreads are townreading his scumread, but doesn't actually outright change his read on Vezok. Again, townpoints for the observation but not outright moving of his read.

1375 looks like genuine frustration over being ignored.

1379 reminds me that Aronis needs to get on and post. Bulba's interaction leading up to the vote in real time I can follow. Aronis's answers there were pretty shitty.

1540 makes sense as Mollie plays in a more frustrating, get under people's skin and see what shakes rather than pure logic. Mollie doing a reaction test through Bulba feels genuine. Mollie's much better at the early game, where there's less to go on. Versus me where I tend to be better at the end. So a reaction test from her makes sense.

1613 is Bulba again being consistent and fighting against rapid group think.

We should totally revisit the findings in 1753/1765. Perhaps we should be pushing Aronis here?


Skip a few posts because this is turning into a wall.

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Bulba asks me why TSO's reads had to be investigated by a vote. That's something that comes from town, trying to work together. Why did you think to do that? What other methods would be more effective? My biggest flaws are acting too fast and not thinking things through.

He tries to force Vezok to take a stand on me and provides the context he thinks your read lacks. Again, this shows a mindset that town are generally rational and make the right decision with all the information while defending Mastina as town before it was cool.


Bulba goes into a bit of wagon analysis. Bulba tends to favor more wagon analysis with living players, yet I don't. It's a touch different as I've seen you do that as well TTH.

This doesn't even include the extreme pushes on bulba scum day 1 for a reason I still do not understand.