In post 4702, Flavor Leaf wrote:They have been lying about being Masons this entire game. If they were masons, theyd be dead by now.
We're not a priority nightkill because nobody believes we're masons and with me being busy and Elsa not doing much they had no incentive to. (Also I was going to push CheekyTeeky D4, so. They had extra incentive to not kill me.)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:53 am
by mastina
In post 4707, Tet wrote:Jjh has scum equity just based on how the wagons played out the last few days.
No he fucking doesn't?
He was a deadline compromise wagon based around fucking paranoia of decreased activity levels from him--decreased activity which was fucking temporary and during which time he was still contributing albeit not as much.
You need only look at jjh's D1 play to know he's not scum; he's NEVER had a D1 performance as scum like his D1 this game.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:56 am
by Pink Ball
I don't want to be between mastina and FL that's so unfair
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:00 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4853, Pink Ball wrote:I don't want to be between mastina and FL that's so unfair
Your action is noted, but like I said, it’s a theory, and a theory that Mastina is trying to push to save scumJjh.
Mastina is being ultra manipulative everywhere.
There’s absolutely no reason she should be pushing me as town like this, and she’s hardcore manipulated Elsa, in what I imagine is just a neighborhood.
She also counter cases JJH, pushed him as following his town meta, but Flips called her out on that being not true, and Flippy hasn’t even been here for a while.
In post 4702, Flavor Leaf wrote:They have been lying about being Masons this entire game. If they were masons, theyd be dead by now.
We're not a priority nightkill because nobody believes we're masons and with me being busy and Elsa not doing much they had no incentive to. (Also I was going to push CheekyTeeky D4, so. They had extra incentive to not kill me.)
This means nothing because Cheeky died that night...
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:03 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I’m gonna say it...wait...i can’t believe i haven’t already.
In post 25, jjh927 wrote:Hey so I'm actually pretty hyped for this game
So am I!
My hype looks to be a different alignment than yours tho. VOTE: jjh
Mastina also votes JJH here after a hype comment, which if JJH hates being scum, this doesn’t make sense from a meta perspective on Mastina and is like SvS.
In post 4853, Pink Ball wrote:I don't want to be between mastina and FL that's so unfair
Your action is noted, but like I said, it’s a theory, and a theory that Mastina is trying to push to save scumJjh.
Mastina is being ultra manipulative everywhere.
There’s absolutely no reason she should be pushing me as town like this, and she’s hardcore manipulated Elsa, in what I imagine is just a neighborhood.
She also counter cases JJH, pushed him as following his town meta, but Flips called her out on that being not true, and Flippy hasn’t even been here for a while.
In post 89, Pink Ball wrote:For fucks sake I want to tell my role 'cause I BET it's the fucking best of all.
I KNOW RITE???
Krazy gave me literally the perfect role.
In post 89, Pink Ball wrote:jjh is posting, ergo, town. I'm an intellectual, you know. I used ergo once.
Fuck you, Pink Ball; I wanted to keep my vote on jjh and pressure him as part of the rvs but I can't anymore because you dropped the truth bomb I already knew.
In post 89, Pink Ball wrote:jjh is posting, ergo, town. I'm an intellectual, you know. I used ergo once.
Fuck you, Pink Ball; I wanted to keep my vote on jjh and pressure him as part of the rvs but I can't anymore because you dropped the truth bomb I already knew.
VOTE: Alisae
Like.
I was about to make a readslist which had him at the bottom, in spite of secretly having a true readslist where he was at the top.
I already thought Flavor Leaf was likely town but this pushes him into definitely town. While Flavor Leaf fakeclaims regardless of his alignment, this troll is something which I feel is inherently a town trollpost.
Mastina and JJH both set me up as this trolling town to discredit me in the future.
This is about where I'm at.
Note that I sincerely doubt that the bottom four are together as a scumteam.
The bottom six there's probably at least a viable scumteam in, but fucked if I know which combo would be the most likely. (Also in like 97.5% of my games I townread someone I shouldn't be townreading, soooooo.)
Cheeky and Titus were deeper scum reads, both ended up flipping early, and they were town. This implies that scum are killing off Mastina pushes because that’s who is most likely to go against her.
Also, look at the top, JJH and EJ, the scum and the manipulated.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:25 pm
by mastina
In post 4710, Flavor Leaf wrote:Krillin clearly does the Solar Flare, he does it in the Frieza arc on Namek, and that's a pretty memorable moment even for me.
He DOES, but it's not his signature technique.
When he first uses it (I believe during the introduction of the saiyans?), I believe it's Goku who comments that it's not a hard technique to master, that in spite of it being Tien's technique originally, both he and Krillin have learned it. The point I am making is, it isn't something unique to Krillin; it isn't a technique widely associated with him.
I can buy that Krillin has the flavor of Sensu Beans, because while Krillin isn't the guy who produces them or delivers them, he IS the guy who most frequently holds onto them and he IS the guy who most frequently gives them to characters. (The fat samurai guy's usually the one who delivers them, but Krillin usually holds onto them after the delivery, basically.)
But Krillin's not really memorable in regards to the Solar Flare.
He IS memorable in the Destructo Disc. It is not only HIS move (even though other characters CAN use it), but it is also a move SEEN FREQUENTLY; he spams it almost every fight, in part because it's literally the only reason he's not worthless later on. (Because it's noted that the destructo disc is one of the
only
techniques that can
actually damage opponents who out-class the user
. I.e., he can use it on people and have it actually work even if literally every other technique of every other character including himself would fail.)
Which sounds like it works as a mafia killing power. Almost as if Alchemist might be one of Krazy's favorite scum roles, sayyyy...a limited form of strongman? (By which I mean, some form of gate on it probably relating to power level, and probably activated rather than passively used automatically.)
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:26 pm
by Flavor Leaf
She also made sure to keep characters like Alisae, myself, and Creature slot up near the top, as we are more likely players to get in a debate with her.
In post 4710, Flavor Leaf wrote:Krillin clearly does the Solar Flare, he does it in the Frieza arc on Namek, and that's a pretty memorable moment even for me.
He DOES, but it's not his signature technique.
When he first uses it (I believe during the introduction of the saiyans?), I believe it's Goku who comments that it's not a hard technique to master, that in spite of it being Tien's technique originally, both he and Krillin have learned it. The point I am making is, it isn't something unique to Krillin; it isn't a technique widely associated with him.
I can buy that Krillin has the flavor of Sensu Beans, because while Krillin isn't the guy who produces them or delivers them, he IS the guy who most frequently holds onto them and he IS the guy who most frequently gives them to characters. (The fat samurai guy's usually the one who delivers them, but Krillin usually holds onto them after the delivery, basically.)
But Krillin's not really memorable in regards to the Solar Flare.
He IS memorable in the Destructo Disc. It is not only HIS move (even though other characters CAN use it), but it is also a move SEEN FREQUENTLY; he spams it almost every fight, in part because it's literally the only reason he's not worthless later on. (Because it's noted that the destructo disc is one of the
only
techniques that can
actually damage opponents who out-class the user
. I.e., he can use it on people and have it actually work even if literally every other technique of every other character including himself would fail.)
Which sounds like it works as a mafia killing power. Almost as if Alchemist might be one of Krazy's favorite scum roles, sayyyy...a
limited form of strongman?
(By which I mean, some form of gate on it probably relating to power level, and probably activated rather than passively used automatically.)
While I like that analysis there, this negates your push on Alch for the roleblock. Strongmen can’t be roleblocked.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:31 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Beginning of Day 2, Mastina specifically didn’t want people getting town cried for pushing TTTT, which is a scum discredit to keep them all open.
While I agree with that sentiment, it was a perfect way to open up people to being mislynched still without coming across as scummy.
This is one of the chain links i talk about. It was townie in the moment, but now in hindsight, that is scummy.
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:32 pm
by mastina
In post 4720, Flavor Leaf wrote:Mastina's pushing bad cases. They shot JJH BECAUSE he was their traitor.
A claim you make off of a series of posts that your own fucking narrative has holes about, lacking internal consistency.
I mean I've read everything up to 4720 and most certainly haven't seen any proof in spite of reading every post so if you've got something you've held back from sharing I'd most definitely love to hear it!
Oh, were you referring to what you already showed? I'd certainly hope not because that was bullshit, so.
You sure are; you're mislynching town and pretending you're not, so.
You being town, 3p, doesn't matter; faking a guilty on town automatically makes you a threat to town regardless of your alignment.
