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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:54 am
by Snarky Fishes
I want to point out however, that I am paranoid about Lukewarm in regards to his beliefs.
One time as scum, I faked a flavor plan and spent 10s of fake posts 'lamenting' about how the flavor read should have been a slam dunk. He's doing a good job if he's scum here though.

I am also interested in the thought that Luke and Manatee are scum together, though Is that even possible?

-Bell.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:54 am
by unwnd
My reasoning was based on a theory of the game mechanics. It's been too long to remember what exactly what I was doing

No, really. This game has been going for about roughly 2 weeks. I'd just fake some bullshit reasoning as scum.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:56 am
by Snarky Fishes
Why is your memory so bad.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:58 am
by unwnd
Because it was likely done spur in the moment. Do you have a recollection of every impulsive decision you've made? I probably made that post to bait your response.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 6:59 am
by Lukewarm
I agree that we should just vote for a plan at this point, and get a count on who should hammer the fishes.

Me and manatee are for the dragons.

Medea seems to be for unwnd

Annie and spiff appear to be for aa9

Unwnd seems to be for Annie

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:00 am
by Snarky Fishes
Yes I get that Luke, but there is alignments to solve, you are pushing a plan that delays a loss for town. Without proposing who the last scum are. In some ways there are benefits to that. But this is also, as some have stated possibly elo.
Rushing gets a no. A lot of different factors should be weighed this day phase.

Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for a good Unwnd scum game to be dropped into my lap.

FF linked me to an AA9 scum game. They were different but meta protection made them harder to read here since it seems how you push them has a lot of AI results. Because they seem to deviate in how they push back (though they push back as either alignment like the mouse and I).

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:02 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 4853, unwnd wrote:Because it was likely done spur in the moment. Do you have a recollection of every impulsive decision you've made? I probably made that post to bait your response.
Yeah, because I'm pretty down on myself for impulsivity usually. I try to rein in that part of myself. Which leads to me feeling fairly embarrassed which tends to improve my memory around an event.

On the other hand, I read my own posts a lot.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:02 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4854, Lukewarm wrote:I agree that we should just vote for a plan at this point, and get a count on who should hammer the fishes.

Me and manatee are for the dragons.

Medea seems to be for unwnd

Annie and spiff appear to be for aa9

Unwnd
and lld/
seems to be for Annie
(Which, btw, the fact that the people voting for the "find the scum today are split on who we should even be going for does not help my confidence that we are gonna be 100% right on the scum team...)

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:03 am
by Snarky Fishes
That's an extremely static way of thinking about other people.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:06 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4855, Snarky Fishes wrote:Yes I get that Luke, but there is alignments to solve, you are pushing a plan that delays a loss for town. Without proposing who the last scum are.
This is not exactly true.

If we come up with a scum team solve today, and do the normal plan (and are right) we win on day 6

If we come up with a scum team solve today, and do my plan (and are right) we win on day 6.

If we end with the wrong solve, then we straight lose with the normal plan. But with my plan, we get 2 more shots.

My plan always involves presenting our best solve today, because we need to direct manatee's night action.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:09 am
by Lukewarm
Which, by the way, my current solve is (unwnd+Annie)

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:10 am
by Snarky Fishes
For example, I remember in HXH that I town binned TNE and though they were just being really, obnoxiously difficult I was so fed up I was like, whatever even if they aren't scum they should die anyway.

And that was pretty embarrassing. Or the time I tunneled on town Nacho in a Marathon game shortly after a game where I managed to tunnel on Nacho correcly in another marathon game.

Or that time I was right for the wrong reasons.

Or the time I let Ydrasse coast for like 2 days.

Or the time I pushed against Ydrasse town in the music game

Or the time as scum, I made the error of pushing at Murdercat and got tunneled by the whole town
or the time in FGO II when I town binned Alter after getting manipulated like a sucker.

Or the time in FGO I when
Or the ime in ware house when I tunneled on Mathblade.


I could just keep going.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:11 am
by Lukewarm
I feel like we are talking past each other without communicating

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:13 am
by Snarky Fishes
This is largely because I'm not specifying who I'm talking to. I usually do that a lot.
It's a bad habit.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:14 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4862, Lukewarm wrote:I feel like we are talking past each other without communicating
Because your responses to me do not actually make much sense given my own thoughts on the game. In a "you are trying to convince me of things that I already know or talk me out of thoughts that Im not having"

So I don't know if I am wildly failing to express my thoughts or if you are just misunderstanding my points

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:14 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4863, Snarky Fishes wrote:This is largely because I'm not specifying who I'm talking to. I usually do that a lot.
It's a bad habit.

-Bell
Oh. Or maybe I miss understood who you were talking to :oops: :oops:

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:15 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 4860, Lukewarm wrote:Which, by the way, my current solve is (unwnd+Annie)
Why?

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:17 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4866, Snarky Fishes wrote:
In post 4860, Lukewarm wrote:Which, by the way, my current solve is (unwnd+Annie)
Why?
I am currently on my phone. Once I get to a computer I can type it up

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:18 am
by Snarky Fishes
Unwnd I could see. They remind me of "yelling at people in a grocery store" - Scum this game.

Annie there are a million small things that lead up to town them.
Even something as simple as them asking if I or he was townier to Pooky.
Not-sci scum doesn't have that sort of tongue in cheek commentary as scum to my understanding of them.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:20 am
by Snarky Fishes
Also, little reason to clear Spiffeh.
Sure scum them could have requested the shards to be closer to getting demonified and sure it fits them to do so, but they also aren't really a leader as scum either, nor do they try to be. Their momentum ad their approach here coming off of their confidence from NGO II makes more sense to me from them being town again.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:21 am
by Lukewarm
You were looking for a scum unwnd game earlier.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=86520

Me and ffery lost to scum unwnd that game

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:27 am
by Snarky Fishes
How?
It's like night and day.

-Bell

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:29 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 4829, unwnd wrote:Do you know how broken it would be if scum
with multi-tasking
could effectively make two demons in one night?
I feel like exactly this is going to happen tonight if we're alive.

It apparently happened N3 -- Manatee says she was corrupted on N2 and demonized on N3. And so was Spiffeh.

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:30 am
by ManateeGal
huh. i was corrupted and demonized N2

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2021 7:31 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 4870, Lukewarm wrote:You were looking for a scum unwnd game earlier.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=86520

Me and ffery lost to scum unwnd that game
That was not an aggro-unwnd game. Neither of the games you and I played with scum-unwnd were.

Cabd said that unwnd has played aggro as scum, but hasn't produced a game name or link, yet. This is at least my second request of you @Cabd to do so. Thanks.