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Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:19 pm
by Garuda
In post 4872, Voidedmafia wrote: In post 4848, ProHawk wrote:Voided, without making an annoying wall of one-liner quote with commentary, tell me from what changed your read of LB from scum to refusal to vote in about 100 posts.
No. Read, don't ask for the TL;DR because I more often than not I won't give it.
idk. Why are you so retardedly stubborn about not lynching Eagle and why have you really stopped caring enough to try harder?
NOW you're being fucktarded.
Garuda, can we all just vote Bald and be done for the day, then?
What about their play so far has seemed scummy?
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:22 pm
by Garuda
In post 4872, Voidedmafia wrote: In post 4848, ProHawk wrote:Voided, without making an annoying wall of one-liner quote with commentary, tell me from what changed your read of LB from scum to refusal to vote in about 100 posts.
No. Read, don't ask for the TL;DR because I more often than not I won't give it.
idk. Why are you so retardedly stubborn about not lynching Eagle and why have you really stopped caring enough to try harder?
NOW you're being fucktarded.
Garuda, can we all just vote Bald and be done for the day, then?
No.
This is also a surprising question coming from someone who was getting paranoid of my attempts to quicklynch Nero.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:17 am
by zMuffinMan
hirkiari wrote:Muffin: I need you bro.
i'm here now. maybe i'll do some reading while i wait for santa to come
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:31 am
by Nero Cain
The idea of me being confirmed scum is absolutely ludacris. My role pm is green so unless the mod made a mistake them I'm town.
@ mod-Were there any mistakes made with my pm?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:31 am
by Nero Cain
The idea of me being confirmed scum is absolutely ludacris. My role pm is green so unless the mod made a mistake them I'm town.
@ mod-Were there any mistakes made with my pm?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:31 am
by Nero Cain
In post 4879, Nero Cain wrote:The idea of me being confirmed scum is absolutely ludacris. My role pm is green so unless the mod made a mistake them I'm town.
@ mod-Were there any mistakes made with my pm?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:41 am
by ProHawk
I feel ashamed for calling Nero Town....
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:59 am
by Magua
There are no known errors at this point.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:29 am
by Lost Butterfly
It's something that's been building up over the past few days, but that was clinched for me by how meatless and middle-of-the-road his stances were today and by how passive everyone seemed about the top two wagons.
Because he's been fairly obvtown for most of the game aside from maybe early Day 1 and a brief spell of laziness on Day 5?
In post 4866, Garuda wrote:I thought that things in Mhrok's favor were the Medium bit and the push on Nero and the initial claim which seemed pretty town. Other than that, there's not a whole lot pointing to Mhork town, minus the Nero-town theory. I thought that it was unlikely that Mhork would push Nero for so long and then come up with the conspiracy theory calling him town, but the medium bit is just being the mouthpiece for an actual townie, which isn't horribly difficult. The push on Nero doesn't matter a whole lot if they are scum from different sides, and I still can't make heads or tails of the conspiracy theory, considering that he was a strong proponent of the Nero lynch and believed very very strongly that he was scum until he was governed. I can understand people getting uneasy who weren't completely sold on Nero scum beforehand, but Mhork was essentially pusher #1.
Hey, Nacho, thoughts on this:
In post 4842, Lost Butterfly wrote:For Nero-scum? For Nero-town? For both? Where are you heading with this? The most obvious reason he would is because he's scum, and therefore, scum don't want him lynched. Or are you arguing that town governed Nero?
Just in general, really. The same kind of argument that was presented yesterday still applies, only it's riskier for scum now because of how much room the back-to-back lynches would give us after bringing it so close.
But really, Governing him once, as what happened yesterday, makes sense; governing him
twice
just makes me so damn confused about why that the more likely thing to me is Nero-town being defended from behind the scenes.
Doesn't basically everything you've said about Mhork apply more to Voided?
Also, to return the favour, I was expecting either us or
you
to die N1, so that's part of why I don't trust you right now. And is your theory really that Mhork and I concocted a plan together to make myself look scummier AND force me to use the kill as a vig? I
know
that I shouldn't have won it for so little, but obviously something really fucking weird happened last night. Do you think we're going for the "so unlikely that scum would ever be dumb enough to claim this that I'm obviously town" WIFOM despite everyone in the game already trusting me?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:51 am
by Lost Butterfly
In post 4847, Voidedmafia wrote: In post 4814, uʍop ǝpısdn wrote:holy frijole are eagle and prohawk ever giving me the williesI am very confident baldeagle is scum.
I'm in agreement re ProHawk, less so on Eagle. I see how you would be concerned, but I don't see a complete bereftness of town feeling.
In post 4819, Lost Butterfly wrote: In post 4816, 1baldeagle1 wrote:So, you guys don't give a fuck whether confirmed scum is on my wagon and that he is barely pushing it? Yeah, uwop is scum and I feel less happy about Hara.
On the one hand, this is stupid. On the other, is this stupid in a scum way? I'm not sure.
I don't think it's scum-stupid. Sounds too frustrated about the described predicament.
Vote: Baldeagle
I hereby refuse to vote LB or Harakiri today (and LB for however much of this game that remains--freely rescind any townreads on me if I do so without good reason). I most likely will not vote muffin or Garuda or Mhork (especially muffin), and while the Baldeagle lynch is fine, I think I'd prefer ProHawk over Bald.
Do you see why the beginning of this post and the end (as well as your eagerness for us to quicklynch eagle right now without more deliberation) don't fit together? Particularly since you'd been in the "Don't quicklynch Nero before massclaim!" camp, like Garuda said.
Also, your "brief fit of paranoia" seemed completely out of nowhere and unsubstantiated by anything you actually mentioned in the thread.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:52 am
by BBmolla
VOTE: Voided
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 11:52 am
by Lost Butterfly
I mean, if you think the eagle lynch is not the optimal one, why are you eager for it to happen right now?
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:44 pm
by zMuffinMan
actually, i wanna do this
Vote: Penguin_Alien
i'm not comfortable with a baldy lynch and i'm pretty sure harakiri is town (and i don't think this read is going to change any time soon)
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:46 pm
by BBmolla
I could do Penguin too
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:51 pm
by zMuffinMan
then let's make it a date
also, merry christmas to everyone but nero!
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:00 pm
by Garuda
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:11 pm
by Garuda
In post 4883, Lost Butterfly wrote:
It's something that's been building up over the past few days, but that was clinched for me by how meatless and middle-of-the-road his stances were today and by how passive everyone seemed about the top two wagons.
Because he's been fairly obvtown for most of the game aside from maybe early Day 1 and a brief spell of laziness on Day 5?
In post 4866, Garuda wrote:I thought that things in Mhrok's favor were the Medium bit and the push on Nero and the initial claim which seemed pretty town. Other than that, there's not a whole lot pointing to Mhork town, minus the Nero-town theory. I thought that it was unlikely that Mhork would push Nero for so long and then come up with the conspiracy theory calling him town, but the medium bit is just being the mouthpiece for an actual townie, which isn't horribly difficult. The push on Nero doesn't matter a whole lot if they are scum from different sides, and I still can't make heads or tails of the conspiracy theory, considering that he was a strong proponent of the Nero lynch and believed very very strongly that he was scum until he was governed. I can understand people getting uneasy who weren't completely sold on Nero scum beforehand, but Mhork was essentially pusher #1.
Hey, Nacho, thoughts on this:
In post 4842, Lost Butterfly wrote:For Nero-scum? For Nero-town? For both? Where are you heading with this? The most obvious reason he would is because he's scum, and therefore, scum don't want him lynched. Or are you arguing that town governed Nero?
Just in general, really. The same kind of argument that was presented yesterday still applies, only it's riskier for scum now because of how much room the back-to-back lynches would give us after bringing it so close.
But really, Governing him once, as what happened yesterday, makes sense; governing him
twice
just makes me so damn confused about why that the more likely thing to me is Nero-town being defended from behind the scenes.
Doesn't basically everything you've said about Mhork apply more to Voided?
Also, to return the favour, I was expecting either us or
you
to die N1, so that's part of why I don't trust you right now. And is your theory really that Mhork and I concocted a plan together to make myself look scummier AND force me to use the kill as a vig? I
know
that I shouldn't have won it for so little, but obviously something really fucking weird happened last night. Do you think we're going for the "so unlikely that scum would ever be dumb enough to claim this that I'm obviously town" WIFOM despite everyone in the game already trusting me?
What does people being passive about the top two wagons have to do with anything? I will acknowledge that Voided has fell off a bit since earlier days, but I wouldn't call his stances meatless and I wouldn't say that he's completely disengaged from the game and stopped giving a shit ala Mhork who stopped doing anything since being the mouthpiece for Pyro.
Thanks for the Mhork townread!
What I said about Mhork is because Mhork went from "oh Nero is scum as hell, let's lynch" to "no no he's town". Voided was also aggressively against him, but his flip wasn't as dramatic as Mhorks. Voided also contradicts himself constantly in a way that looks like he doesn't give a shit about what he's saying anymore, and I would expect him to at least monitor his quotes in order to make sure that he's playing consistently, somewhat. He also has a nice moment where he gets paranoid on me when i act weird, where he makes a small push on you... voided is still trying to figure the game out. Mhrok isn't.
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:13 pm
by Garuda
Townie wins night kill for $1 against a scum that seems to organize competently and happens to be investigated to have bought the night kill is a weird as fuck situation. Why did you do it? So Mhork has an excuse for having less money than he has/a registered action and so you get the "oh, I have the night kill but we still have time" cred. One situation seems a hell of a lot likelier than the other.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:39 am
by zMuffinMan
are you reading LB as scum now, nacho? when did that happen?
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 7:20 am
by Magua
Vote Count 6.18
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
1baldeagle1 (4): Harakiri, Nero Cain, uʍop ǝpısdn, VoidedMafia
penguin_alien (3): Lord Mhork, zMuffinMan, Garuda
VoidedMafia (2): Lost Butterfly, BBmolla
Harakiri (1): ProHawk
uʍop ǝpısdn (1): 1baldeagle1
Not Voting (1): penguin_alien
Deadline for Day 6 is Friday, December 27th, at 5:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-12-27 05:00:00)
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:25 am
by BBmolla
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Penguin
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:04 am
by ProHawk
I hate this game.
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:18 am
by Harakiri
Like this wagon is good, but how's its forming is sososososo sketchy. Like so sketchy I don't really want to join it...
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:20 pm
by Voidedmafia
In post 4876, Garuda wrote:This is also a surprising question coming from someone who was getting paranoid of my attempts to quicklynch Nero.
There's a difference between voting to quicklynch someone immediately at the start of the day and voting to (quick)lynch someone after most of the day has passed and we've done everything we care to do at the time. The former serves no purpose, especially when there were things that should've been done before anyone was lynched (even if one of them never happened). With the latter there is at least some way of making a better informed decision, and in context without something like, say, the person(s) who double-governed Nero outing him/her/themselves the most that's delaying the lynch is our inability to finalize one.
In post 4879, Nero Cain wrote:The idea of me being confirmed scum is absolutely ludacris. My role pm is green so unless the mod made a mistake them I'm town.
That is a horrible argument.
also, "ludicrous." Ludacris is the stage name of a rapper.
In post 4884, Lost Butterfly wrote:Do you see why the beginning of this post and the end (as well as your eagerness for us to quicklynch eagle right now without more deliberation) don't fit together? Particularly since you'd been in the "Don't quicklynch Nero before massclaim!" camp, like Garuda said.
By all means, talk some more if you feel like there's stuff still worth talking about, but my mind has hit the point of going "fuck this, let's just get this done with". Eagle or Pro, or whatever, but pick somebody from those two (or I suppose Penguin) and stick with it.
Also, saying that D5 and during the first couple RL days of D6 before anyone had really vocalized anything about a massclaim in the thread is a different scenario than saying it after the idea of a massclaim has been bandied around and largely ignored and people haved talked. Notably because it
was
talked about and people
talked
, as opposed to Garuda's idea of foregoing any talking or idea-sharing in favor of lynching the shit out of Nero. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the most I'd be doing by getting Eagle lynched now is...I guess not allowing everyone the last word before what may be the last day of this game? And I suppose a couple conundrums you or anyone else has that may not be properly covered/cleared up postgame.
In post 4884, Lost Butterfly wrote:Also, your "brief fit of paranoia" seemed completely out of nowhere and unsubstantiated by anything you actually mentioned in the thread.
'Twas largely late-night bathroom paranoia, if that makes any sense. I can explain if it doesn't.
In post 4886, Lost Butterfly wrote:I mean, if you think the eagle lynch is not the optimal one, why are you eager for it to happen right now?
Eagle or Pro are the optimal lynches to me, I'd just prefer if Pro went before Eagle.
In post 4892, Garuda wrote:Townie wins night kill for $1 against a scum that seems to organize competently and happens to be investigated to have bought the night kill is a weird as fuck situation. Why did you do it? So Mhork has an excuse for having less money than he has/a registered action and so you get the "oh, I have the night kill but we still have time" cred. One situation seems a hell of a lot likelier than the other.
is that "and" supposed to be an "or" or did you accidentally the other situation? This quote doesn't make much sense since you only mention one possibility (and one that I think Mina-scum would be absolutely pants-on-head retarded to try given the hydra's position in the game).
Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 9:37 pm
by ProHawk
VOTE: Voided