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Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:01 pm
by SirCakez
I'll be here all tomorrow, I don't need to move back RIGHT NOW <.<

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:04 pm
by Axelrod
In post 4869, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4859, SirCakez wrote:
In post 4837, Marquis wrote:just feels opportunistic

staying on mirhawk myself

cakez move back please

also nah cakez is townier and never hedged on him before. that seems more blatant, and axel wasn't in danger of lynch when cakez moved over
I can move back later for deadline but I really want to get somewhere on Axel.
How about you actually attempt to argue it then? Or respond to me? Or do anything except just sit there.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:12 pm
by Mirhawk
lol

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 12:15 pm
by Mirhawk
Unvote
Vote: Cakez


I wanna die the way I lived, calling Cakez scum.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 1:59 pm
by pistachi0n
In post 4875, SirCakez wrote:I'll be here all tomorrow, I don't need to move back RIGHT NOW <.<
Are you trying to force a no lynch or what?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:27 pm
by True Ogre
In post 4826, Friendless Seniors wrote:Urinetown is an actual current musical ogre

And I saw Hedwig like two years ago. It's current enough yo. I don't think this line of argument is gonna work
1) Urinetown isn't a current
Broadway
Musical
2) Hedwig isn't either, although it's been on Broadway

3) This is a really odd way to phrase your thinking here. "Current enough yo".
It's like you're agreeing that the flavour has relevance and are dismissing it as irrelevant in the same thought.

There are very likely more subtle relationships between town and non-town musicals - like Idunno, maybe scum musicals appeared off-Broadway first or other things I'm not motivated enough to cross-reference in triplicate. (Although I'll probably get a spreadsheet going at some stage if I'm around.) And I've already mentioned that I think there are probably exceptions which would tend to make straight flavour-matching not so uh.. straightforward. My own flavour doesn't strictly match either.

But you were forced to claim
very
early and Skybird also claimed her
actual
flavour. This might have been strategy so that town don't know what kind of fakeclaims scum have access to, or it may just be that the safest thing scum felt they could do was claim their actual flavour.

Anyway, can you give an overall read on Mirhawk? Like a short paragraph in summary of how your read on him has developed throughout the game?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:30 pm
by True Ogre
In post 4823, Axelrod wrote:
In post 4809, True Ogre wrote:I, for one, am looking forward to another patented Axelrod case.
It's been a minute.
I hope you enjoy.
It scanned as a better effort than the others. I hope you haven't spent the last week you've been lurking drafting it.

Note to self: Go back and read it at some stage

My brain glazed over somewhere about the second block of text. Sorry.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:33 pm
by True Ogre
In post 4843, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 4797, True Ogre wrote:And just another quick question... I suppose your BP is passive, so you didn't actually load it up as such?
Ask tictac
tictac took your role pm with him? What did tictac say in your neighbourhood about using his bulletproof?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:49 pm
by Cerberus v666
In post 4882, True Ogre wrote:
In post 4843, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 4797, True Ogre wrote:And just another quick question... I suppose your BP is passive, so you didn't actually load it up as such?
Ask tictac
tictac took your role pm with him? What did tictac say in your neighbourhood about using his bulletproof?
Probably not wise to specifically ask about bulletproof usage.....

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:52 pm
by True Ogre
Wow that's such a pro-town comment.

Since it's precisely how Piper came around to considering Cakez to be the vig, either there's a straightforward answer or those
two
three have decided to play a very fucking irritating game of wifom.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:57 pm
by Cerberus v666
In post 4884, True Ogre wrote:Wow that's such a pro-town comment.

Since it's precisely how Piper came around to considering Cakez to be the vig, either there's a straightforward answer or those
two
three have decided to play a very fucking irritating game of wifom.
*sigh* Pipers decision that Cakez was the vig was caused by a NUMBER of things, and nowhere do they say "I knew I was right when after cakez said someone should shoot tictac, and tictac used his bulletproof, there was only one kill in the night!"

You're prying into something best left unexplored, for minimal potential gain.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 3:59 pm
by True Ogre
Anyway, I've jsut realised I've got my grumpy asshole boots on again.

I'm going to wander off and will be around before deadline for a bit. Folks need to decide who they're going to lynch. I'm okay with my vote.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:01 pm
by pistachi0n
How sure are you that whether or not the musical is current is a clue to whether or not someone's town or scum? I think we need another flip.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:03 pm
by Cerberus v666
Hey TO, check me tonight yo. So that way if you find my likely counterpart, we can keep them from getting lynched if it's ever relevant. :)

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:03 pm
by True Ogre
In post 4302, The Pied Piper wrote:I'm tired and this possibly isn't the greatest idea, but I'm done with this dumbshit distraction.

Cakez is the vig; he crumbed shooting Snarky and then Snarky died. We thought he might be SK based on how blatant it was, pushed him, decided it wasn't the case.
Flubber is a JOAT with a Neighborize + Bulletproof + Investigative; Tictac used the neighborize on Plot N1, which Plot liked because Plot was his IC and they didn't think that a newbie scum would be willing to get a neighborhood with their IC. I thought that Tictac's reaction to Plot's more incoherent posting seemed ridiculously town; they mentioned that they were pretty paranoid of us before but thought that Plot seemed really vulnerable and that seemed really town to them + there was just a bunch of shit in that neighborhood I don't feel like elaborating on now.
When we crumbed the inno on Tictac, it was in response to Cakez probably shooting Tictac; we felt that he was very likely town based on neighborhood posting and knew that his kill failing was probably going to make him think that Tictac was 100% scum and we wanted to warn him off that before it happened.

The reason I said that this had nothing to do with our claim is because look, we still haven't claimed, and we've explained the PR thing! Plot overplayed it a bit because they were trying to emulate the Jingle wizard stuff from Original Mafia; Plot has other roles figured out (they knew Ogre was a not-significant investigative role earlier), but I really don't think outing any of that crap is relevant unless you believe we just haven't given enough or something stupid like that.
This is despite Cakez pushing just as hard daystart Day 2 (which had me thinking he had a result on tictac)
Anyway, adieu

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:10 pm
by Flubbernugget
In post 4882, True Ogre wrote:
In post 4843, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 4797, True Ogre wrote:And just another quick question... I suppose your BP is passive, so you didn't actually load it up as such?
Ask tictac
tictac took your role pm with him? What did tictac say in your neighbourhood about using his bulletproof?
I thought there was a why in your question that I didn't see

Either way I'm not going into the status of my BP

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:10 pm
by True Ogre
In post 4888, Cerberus v666 wrote:Hey TO, check me tonight yo. So that way if you find my likely counterpart, we can keep them from getting lynched if it's ever relevant. :)
Christ, let me fuck off and be drunk without injecting another bunch of it into the thread.
It's not worth investigating you, at some point you're going to claim when you get a matching flavour and that info will likely be dechiperable to some degree.
pistachi0n wrote:How sure are you that whether or not the musical is current is a clue to whether or not someone's town or scum? I think we need another flip.
I'm not altogether sure. I think it's a hint though and I think Mirhawk is a pretty decent flip either way. Low risk if he is VT and there are a lot of interactions and opinions around his slot.

I'd prefer Seniors but considering that's where I've been all day and nothing's come of it I don't see it happening.
Piper I'd do but with more hesitance; I've been flip-flopping on them and every time I seriously think about it I just wonder why they'd play like this as scum.

Axel at this point just seems a cop-out. He's had support from almost everyone all day, but I hate deadline switches.
Cerb gets to live until I can actually check his references and try to figure out what's going on there and that hasn't happened today (and might never).

BYE

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:12 pm
by Flubbernugget
Hey EP

I know why you can only think of two scum reads :)

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:25 pm
by itlepip
In post 4892, Flubbernugget wrote:Hey EP

I know why you can only think of two scum reads :)
LOOL <3

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:33 pm
by Cerberus v666
TO, I assure you, it's not worth it to meta dive me. I mean, you can if you really want to, but it's much less work to just accept that I'm town and focus on people who are "worth" investigating. I mean, if you can't spare an effortless night action that is likely to return useless information the majority of the time, why are you suggesting you can spare HOURS to read through my shit?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:42 pm
by True Ogre
Stop backtalking me.

For one, when I find a few games it wouldn't be HOURS, it might be half an hour of skimming your other games and getting a feel for how you usually play.

Secondly, half of it is asking the folks here who you've played with what they think, and considering you're not widely scumread that gives me AN indicator.

Thirdly, I don't give an actual shit what your flavour is because you've already said there's an interaction with another flavour so that'd have to make sense in the longrun. And if you think my investigate action is useless then why haven't I been able to get one off?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 4:44 pm
by True Ogre
Well okay I guess I hadn't claimed specifically until today but still. pistachion was the obvious kill so I guess scumz are second-guessing things and town are doing okay.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:11 pm
by pistachi0n
People on one-vote wagons are scum.

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 5:17 pm
by SirCakez
Omfg
VOTE: Mirhawk
Chill out

Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 7:41 pm
by Friendless Seniors
In post 4892, Flubbernugget wrote:Hey EP

I know why you can only think of two scum reads :)
I can't wait to be fucking done with mafia