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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:24 am
by Varsoon
D3 ACTIONS:

Reasonably Rational commits to piloting the Qubeley.
Skybird uses the 240MM CANNONS on Gamma Emerald.
Titus commits to piloting the GP02
Iconeum uses the 240MM CANNONS on Gamma Emerald.
Gamma Emerald commits to piloting the Big Zam.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:24 am
by Varsoon
N3 ACTIONS:

Skybird tracks Firebringer -- Firebringer took no action
Gamma Emerald uses the Large Mega Particle Cannon to kill Baku and Munna -- Success
Titus uses AE/ZIM.G-BAZ-0186-A ATOMIC BAZOOKA on the Crossbone Vanguard -- Success, Loud
Chara tracks Gamma Emerald -- Success
Iconeum tracks Chara -- Success
Nancy Drew 39 defects to the Titans -- Success
SnarkySnowman prevents Dunnstral from taking any actions -- Success
Baku and Munna prevents Dunnstral from taking any actions that negatively affect other players, Loud modifier -- Success, Loud
Skybird is the first factional Kill -- Redirected by Gamma Emerald to Baku and Munna
Purple Heart is the second factional Kill -- Success



PILOTING:
Reasonably Rational - Qubeley
Skybird - Guncannon
Titus - GP02
Iconeum - Guncannon
Gamma - Big Zam
Creature - Psycho Gundam

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:26 am
by Varsoon
SPECTATOR THREAD:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75417

SCUM PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75400

HYDRA PT - SHINING DREAMERS:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75402
HYDRA PT - MAID CAFE:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75403
HYDRA PT - BRONYA ZAYCHIK:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75404
HYDRA PT - REASONABLY RATIONAL:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75405
HYDRA PT - TIBOR AND LUMIA:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75406
HYDRA PT - BAKU AND MUNNA:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75407
JOURNAL PT - ONTHEMARK:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75411

BEST FRIENDS PT - (DUNNSTRAL):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75806
BEST FRIENDS PT - (CREATURE):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75782
BEST FRIENDS PT - (GAMMA EMERALD):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75757
BEST FRIENDS PT - (NANCY DREW 39):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75754
BEST FRIENDS PT - (PURPLE HEART):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75556
BEST FRIENDS PT - (REASONABLY RATIONAL):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75566
BEST FRIENDS PT - (MAID CAFE):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75567
BEST FRIENDS PT - (BRONYA ZAYCHIK):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75568
BEST FRIENDS PT - (ALMOST50):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75569
BEST FRIENDS PT - (VENMAR):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75582
BEST FRIENDS PT - (SKYBIRD):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75590
BAKU AND MUNNA & REASONABLY RATIONAL PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75495
BAKU AND MUNNA & MAID CAFE PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75497
BAKU AND MUNNA & VENMAR PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75498
SPECTRAL PROCESSION PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75503
MTG - VALAKUT PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75377
UNDERTALE - CATTY AND BRATTY PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75552
UNDERTALE - GRILLBY'S PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75557
GUNDAM - EARTH FEDERATION PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75866
GUNDAM - AEUG PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75867
GUNDAM - ZEON PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75868
GUNDAM - TITANS PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75876
GUNDAM - PARLIAMENT AT DAKAR PT:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=75928

(I'll make these public when I get the chance to)

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:28 am
by Varsoon
Once again, I apologize.
I was relying on a lot of my own credibility to help people get over the initial theme change, but it seems like I couldn't live up to that credibility.
I was really excited for the L5R setup and I might just run it as a standalone, perhaps.
Anyway, thoughts?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:29 am
by OnTheMark
Thanks Varsoon for running it as far as you did.

I won’t be able to really type much til after work.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:36 am
by Cerberus v666
ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:37 am
by Cerberus v666
Also...I didn't look at the whole setup, but Varsoon: What portion of the town could I have cleared via having them target me and getting beamed if we had used the thing that kept scum from using their mechs?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:45 am
by Varsoon
@Cerb: It'd only soft-clear people with day actions, since the [BEAM] votes wouldn't be around for the following day phase. You'd only really be able to soft-clear Nancy Drew and Snarky Snowman, as the Guncannons and Hyaku Shiki would disable your Mobile Suit. Even then, this is making the assumption that no player could've put a [BEAM] vote on you during the day, which I really should've given scum the player-based ability to do. Instead, I strapped them with loud pro-town abilities. The idea was that, in this phase, scum would be putting out false positives. Didn't really happen. Scum also had some degree of counterplay, given they could shut down the day phase.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:46 am
by Titus
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
I think I would have before hand. I know I was town but Gamma scum has to lock me in as town anyway. There's no way to get there from his perspective. I actually suspected Gamma shot his buddy and was hoping Chara was relaying to help me sort it out fwiw.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:47 am
by NicoRobin
Can I pre-in for Varsoon game users game?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:50 am
by Varsoon
In post 4884, NicoRobin wrote:Can I pre-in for Varsoon game users game?
If it ever happens, sure?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:51 am
by Varsoon
I should also note that Scum did get to decide which, and how many, of their members ended up at the Parliament.
Here's their Strategems:
Welcome to the Strategem Phase for Gundam Mafia. You have 48 hours to vote for a Spacenoid Stratagem. Failure to do so will result in no Stratagem being implemented.
Your choices for Day 3, UC 0087 are as follows:

Operation Stardust : Players vote to end the Day Phase rather than lynch. The Scum team controls two unstoppable kills at Night.
Minovsky Particle Proliferation : Every single Non-Factional Non-Strategem PT is permanently locked; the remaining PTs (including Scum PT) become Night Chat only for the rest of the game.
Treaty at Granada : The Day Phase is reduced to 48 hours in length.
And their factionals:
Factional Abilities:

(ANY THEME) :
Each Night phase, a member of this faction must decide on a player to kill. This killing action does not count against your normal actions restrictions.
(ANY THEME) :
You may chat in this thread at any time.
(UNDERTALE MAFIA) :
During the Pacifist Route, your faction controls a factional ability to target a player at Night and cause their Night Actions to fail.
(UNDERTALE MAFIA) :
During the Genocide Route, your faction controls a factional ability to target a player at Night and learn what their role is.
(GUNDAM MAFIA) :
Your factional kill is submitted independent of any player and does not count as an action that any player takes--it can also never fail.
I ended up stacking a lot of power on both sides of this game, eeeeh.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:53 am
by Varsoon
Although I do feel that having the scum kill be an independent kill that can't be tracked back to a player (as a public mechanic) could lend itself well to setups that have trackers/watchers/motion detectors. You'd do away with the issue of being able to absolute confirm someone as scum.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:56 am
by Cerberus v666
In post 4882, Varsoon wrote:@Cerb: It'd only soft-clear people with day actions, since the [BEAM] votes wouldn't be around for the following day phase. You'd only really be able to soft-clear Nancy Drew and Snarky Snowman, as the Guncannons and Hyaku Shiki would disable your Mobile Suit. Even then, this is making the assumption that no player could've put a [BEAM] vote on you during the day, which I really should've given scum the player-based ability to do. Instead, I strapped them with loud pro-town abilities. The idea was that, in this phase, scum would be putting out false positives. Didn't really happen.
*nods*

Yeah, I figured it would be soft-clearing only, but just didn't know the numbers. Only 2 works, since that's a small enough pool to minimize the value. Had it been like 4 or 5, then I could have reasonably inferred that scum didn't have a huge number of beam votes to throw around, so it would have been functionally the same as the parliament thing in terms of creating a pool that potentially contained a limited number of scum.

How did you choose the membership of the parliament?

pedit: Already answered!

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 5:57 am
by Cerberus v666
Did scum know about future phases/theme changes in advance?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:00 am
by Varsoon
No, scum were in the dark and only got new role cards, factionals, and info with the start of each new theme.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:01 am
by Cerberus v666
In post 4883, Titus wrote:
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
I think I would have before hand. I know I was town but Gamma scum has to lock me in as town anyway. There's no way to get there from his perspective. I actually suspected Gamma shot his buddy and was hoping Chara was relaying to help me sort it out fwiw.
Yeah, the problem with the Chara thing was that he ACTUALLY SAW HIM REDIRECT. :-/ I don't really understand why he actually shot his buddy as well as did a redirection action though, it sorta looks like(based on actions taken, not on roles, which I haven't dug into yet) that there could have been 3 scum kills that night?

*shrug* Maybe things aren't as they appear. I did forget that Gamma was part of the Parliament though, so that would have made it more likely he wouldn't live as long....

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:02 am
by Yume
Bummer then.....

I was looking forward to playing it.....

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:16 am
by Randomnamechange
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon :)
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:28 am
by Cerberus v666
In post 4893, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon :)
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it
Bad as in why did you have to roll scum??? :(

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question. :P

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:29 am
by Micc
Sorry I had to replace out of this one. I thought I could maybe handle a large with the flavor being my biggest hobby. Turns out larges still aren’t my thing and the magic flavor didn’t last long anyway. I had the game bookmarked and was loosely following. Sorry to see it get abandoned because it looks like Varsoon put a ton of time into making it.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:32 am
by Varsoon
I'd been bouncing this theme-swapping concept around for awhile, and was thinking it would be really cool to build a setup (or collab with 2 other mods) where 3 different setups are rotated constantly. Players would vote on which one they wanted to change to next, with the rule that no setup could happen twice in a row. Each setup would have dynamically changing roles and features, similar to how these first 3 setups worked.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:51 am
by Randomnamechange
In post 4894, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4893, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon :)
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it
Bad as in why did you have to roll scum??? :(

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question. :P

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?
i wasnt involved in the QL decision
my teammates got antsy and thought the wagon would dissolve, i came online and saw they hammered, panicked and created my hoods bc getting mana and towncred with hooding you was too good to pass uup

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:58 am
by Cerberus v666
In post 4897, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 4894, Cerberus v666 wrote:
In post 4893, Randomnamechange wrote:
In post 4880, Cerberus v666 wrote:ILU Varsoon I'm sorry things kept getting in the way of the game. :(

Gamma, shooting your own teammate was going to give you a .01% chance of winning. I would have lynched you in LYLO, but not before then, after Chara was able to see that you actually did redirect a kill and didn't just perform one. IDK what everyone else would have done though. :P

Random, why did you have to be bad? :(
bad at the game or scum? both are valid questions

i got kind of demotivated when i got caught for making a mechanical paly that didn't benefit me at all tbh
rly cool concept tho, look forward to playing in your next game varsoon :)
town deserve the win tbh, we were never gonna win it
Bad as in why did you have to roll scum??? :(

Not bad in the game etc. Yeah, the whole hood creation thing with the timing and stuff was too much of a technical play for the specific individuals you were targeting at least. Had you made hoods with less active/attentive players you'd have been good I think? I didn't notice the timing myself at first because I was so shocked at getting screwed out of my next question. :P

If it's not covered in the scum PT, why did you guys go with that whole line anyways? With the quicklynch etc?
i wasnt involved in the QL decision
my teammates got antsy and thought the wagon would dissolve, i came online and saw they hammered, panicked and created my hoods bc getting mana and towncred with hooding you was too good to pass uup
Ah.

Hmm. That wagon DID have a high probability of dissolving, so that was a valid concern. I don't think any of them would have been next in line though, so unless they were universally terrified of the effect Mastina/Yume would have had on things+didn't want to shoot them i don't think it dissolving was something to be too concerned about.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 7:12 am
by Randomnamechange
yeah i wasnt a fan