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5 PRs is about typical from what I could tell iirc, that's why I backed off DGB after initially pushing them post Cabd flip. The issue here is that we've seen 0 scum power to counterbalance.

All goons is a hypothetical counterbalance but relies on actively misleading the town in two separate ways by design. One is that there are 2/3 blocking sources that don't work well together, the other is the vanilla cop.

More natural answer is me/DGB are lying or one of you/ffery is a scum PR.

In post 4871, Vaxkiller wrote:I know I keep pushing you as a possibility for scum, but you've left me with no other options. I can't read you. You keep getting protected by others, but I can't read you.

You scum reading me back just feeds into me scum reading you.



ARGH!

this reads like town frustration. :/

I'm nothing if not idiosyncratic and this has not been one of my better games mostly due to being sick and exhausted during day 1 and part of day 2. fwiw players do get better at reading me. Sometimes all it takes is a game or two!

notsci your thoughts on Vax's post?

I will be livid if the setup is 3 contradictory PRs, a red herring investigative, and all goons.

An important part of setup design is making it a puzzle for town to solve and to reward them for correctly getting info/flips. One red herring is fine, but a normal setup that is exclusively red herrings so that the setup designers can laugh at the town is not. I will 100% blame the design and feel 0 remorse about it, this hypothetical setup should not have passed.

In post 4868, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:is

Jailkeeper
Roleblocker
Doctor
Friendly Neighbor
Odd Night Vanilla Cop

too much town power in a 13P?

I have no clue how to balance games :/

WAyyy to much town power. I don't know how to balance either tho.

Maybe 4 person scum team with all goons?

That or Doc is lying or DGB is scum.

In post 4876, fferyllt wrote:

In post 4871, Vaxkiller wrote:I know I keep pushing you as a possibility for scum, but you've left me with no other options. I can't read you. You keep getting protected by others, but I can't read you.

You scum reading me back just feeds into me scum reading you.



ARGH!

this reads like town frustration. :/

I'm nothing if not idiosyncratic and this has not been one of my better games mostly due to being sick and exhausted during day 1 and part of day 2. fwiw players do get better at reading me. Sometimes all it takes is a game or two!

notsci your thoughts on Vax's post?

To be clear this was in reference to pooky.

hm.

frustration is frustration, though.

Yeah, his recent stuff isn’t bad.

everyone being town but dgb

but we must ask ourselves, "which of the non-dgb players is scum?"

Ffery maybe this is just illicit and we’re arguing over the plan to scums benefit

Without the plan. :/

In post 4835, DrippingGoofball wrote:Wouldn't have scum hammered me already? I self-voted myself to L-1 to make it really easy.

Not if you are scum. Can't hammer of you already voted yourself.

In post 4885, benhalkum wrote:

In post 4835, DrippingGoofball wrote:Wouldn't have scum hammered me already? I self-voted myself to L-1 to make it really easy.

Not if you are scum. Can't hammer of you already voted yourself.

You're so annoying, you've contributed nothing but showing up once a week with a one-liner calling me scum.

I can't wait for my green flip to humble you.

As if I would ever let my scumpals down as the last scum.

In post 4884, fferyllt wrote:Without the plan. :/

what plan?

Like, we dont need a plan. If we miss elim, its going to be painfully obvious tomorrow.

In post 4888, Vaxkiller wrote:

In post 4884, fferyllt wrote:Without the plan. :/

what plan?

That was in reference to the illicit substances mini theme game. scum-bork pitched a fake claim that if we bought it, brought him to mxlo. zmuffin came up with a strategy that would win the game whether the fake claim was real or not, on the day we would probably have elimed bork without the plan.

It involved town players getting in line to be mis-elimed. zmuffin went first. morph (cabd/me hydra) went last before mxlo. notsci hydra, bell and flavor leaf alt went to mxlo with bork and won it. going along with that, even knowing the plan should still win the game, was extremely, extremely difficult.

Notsci is saying just go ahead and elim DGB and we almost certainly win. I'm saying there is no fancy plan to ignore here.

I'm still pretty salty about letting myself be miselimed when I was scumreading the last scum, despite the win.

Why will it be painfully obvious tomorrow?

In post 4886, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 4885, benhalkum wrote:

In post 4835, DrippingGoofball wrote:Wouldn't have scum hammered me already? I self-voted myself to L-1 to make it really easy.

Not if you are scum. Can't hammer of you already voted yourself.

You're so annoying, you've contributed nothing but showing up once a week with a one-liner calling me scum.

I can't wait for my green flip to humble you.

Except the chances of you flipping green are low.

In post 4891, notscience wrote:Why will it be painfully obvious tomorrow?

Like, I think I know how this will turn out, and I wont be buying it. I don't want to say tho, to tip my hat.

O
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Except for ben's tiresome trolling, you all know I'm town.

fferryltt's has had multiple opportunities the hammer the living daylights out of my demotivated, self-voting self, and no one would have said a peep about it tomorrow. No one is going to say "oh boy what a suspicious hammer, let's kill it with fire!" Shw would have gotten away with it completely.

In many ways, VOTE: Prism makes no sense at all. But no one makes sense. So

Down to the wire like this, the only reason I'm not dead yet is that the scum is already on my wagon.

Scum has no reason to rush to hammer you, they're safe regardless of which of ffery/Pooky it would be, and I'm the only player who isn't openly preparing for Day 6.

That doesn't make me town but watching both of them scrape the bottom of the barrel for 3 days straight to position for later instead of just voting the least town person in the game is absolutely not +town.

I'm also a big fan of the legendary scum must be on my 3 person wagon, where 1 is yourself and 1 is confirmed town.

It's been days.

VOTE: Prism

lmfao

VOTE: Prism

Sure Vax.

ffs