nacho wrote:I currently don't like that BRO is pushing on ANTIHERO after he claimed cop because he's not "100%" confirmed; it reeks of him trying to outmaneuver the townflips of the few mislynches he has room to get and break into the confirmed town block.
nacho has a point here though
the counterpoint, obviously, is if scum have people in the CONFTOWNBLOC that means they can just do what nacho is saying and lynch NONCONFTOWN until allhellbreakslooseth.
nacho wrote:Andrius is claiming a role that says "I CAN CONFIRM SOMEONE AS TOWN IF YOU LYNCH ME", which is something no scum ever said in his situation.
the counterpoint is obv, that scum killing a townie isn't supergreat
i mean obv, a scum bomb/vengeful makes little sense in this setup (esp. bomb)
nacho wrote:SCUM TRAITOR GODFATHER ENABLER WHO OBVIOUSLY ENABLES ALL OF THIS HORRIBLY BROKEN SCUM POWER ROLES is dead.
still think this is stretching like hell
nacho wrote:The only way town can win this game is if they stay within the lines and don't lynch confirmed town.
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andy wrote:if scum have people in the CONFTOWNBLOC that means they can just do what nacho is saying and lynch NONCONFTOWN until allhellbreakslooseth.
In post 4887, BROseidon wrote:Deciding to run a cop-crumb gambit wouldn't require knowledge of the godfather.
And I'm not even considering lynching Anti until you and Desp are gone.
A Split Personality is a Conditional Godfather Bulletproof Ability Enabler Traitor.
Conditional could mean whether/not he's recruited. Not sure what it modifies (GODFATHER BULLETPROOF being the most immediate) but I'd guess that he's only GODFATHER BULLETPROOF while non-recruited and his whole THERE BE A TRAITOR OUT THERE was an attempt to get people to recruit him.
But that won't happen while there are shitloads of CONFTOWN that need killing.
Which really makes me wonder if the saki kill was scum-driven, sent in before they knew of the masons/cops THUS SUPPORTING A TINFOIL I HAVE.
Traitor is obv. How that works isn't.
ABILITY ENABLER - Could enable his own team- could enable abilities on both sides- could enable one common ability that both sides use (DayTalk). Who knows?
Probably conditionally bulletproof with the godfather immunity being bulletproof-ness in particular (which means town MUST have some killing power so that almostconfirms mutley). Ability Enabler we'll not know until the end but probably does something inbetween ENABLES SCUMROLES and ENABLES TOWNROLES.
Traitor.
tl;dr its probably not as strong as nacho thinks it is, and him being BULLETPROOF confirms that there is SOME TOWN POWER OUT THERE that merits being immune to kills.
tl;dr2: mutley is probtown unless someone else wants to claim some killing ability (mine doesn't count for obv reasons!)
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:52 am
by Andrius
omg omg omg
SPLIT PERSONALITY. HE IS ID.
ID, EGO, SUPER-EGO???
HE IS SPLIT BECAUSE HE IS TRAITOR. HE IS CONDITIONAL WHETHER OR NOT HE IS RECRUITED AS HE IS SPLIT. EITHER HE IS STRONGER WITH THE OTHER PARTS OR HE IS WEAKER WITH THEM.
Groupscum almost certainly knew he existed since EGO/SUPEREGO (bit of tinfoil) so clearly they judged him not a priority shot given MASTIN AND THE MASONS.
And cops.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:55 am
by Andrius
though it sounds remotely like SUPEREGO might be town from the wikia
BORK STOP I DONT EVEN OWN A PLAYSTATION CANT DO FLAVOR RESEARCH
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:30 am
by BROseidon
Andy that spec is great and all, but how does it help us lynch scum?
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:43 am
by Andrius
In post 4906, BROseidon wrote:Andy that spec is great and all, but how does it help us lynch scum?
tl;dr its probably not as strong as nacho thinks it is, and him being BULLETPROOF confirms that there is SOME TOWN POWER OUT THERE that merits being immune to kills.
tl;dr2: mutley is probtown unless someone else wants to claim some killing ability (mine doesn't count for obv reasons!)
Groupscum almost certainly knew he existed since EGO/SUPEREGO (bit of tinfoil) so clearly they judged him not a priority shot given MASTIN AND THE MASONS.
And cops.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:53 am
by Andrius
14. notscience
7. Ghostlin
2. Andrius
16. waynegg (Mutleyddmc Skullduggery)
6. Faster Than Light
20. Antihero (Venmar)
5. Desperado
19. Trust Fund
4. BROseidon
8. Mac
18. TiphaineDeath
10. Nachomamma8
Town to Scum Scale, Starting with
CONFTOWN to
REASONABLY CONFTOWN to
PERHAPS CONFTOWN to
TOWN to
BOTH RELY ON TF's ALIGNMENT to
PROBSCUM
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:59 am
by BROseidon
How is Anti more likely town than the people he investigated? If Anti is town, Mac and TD are town unless there's another godfather in play.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:00 pm
by Andrius
A flipped Godfather also makes the cops look good.
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:00 pm
by Andrius
yeah uh I forgot exactly how his and tf and ftl's roles works so im brb-reading and will update accordingly
20. Antihero (Venmar) - Modified TownCop (can only get 2 Innos)
8. Mac - 1shot Neighborizer, TOWN through Antihero
18. TiphaineDeath - Vanilla, TOWN through Antihero
6. Faster Than Light - Nonconsecutive Nilla Cop
5. Desperado
19. Trust Fund - 1shot Vanillizer, confirmed NONVANILLA through FTL
4. BROseidon -
10. Nachomamma8 - Vanilla, confirmed VANILLA through FTL
NEW LIST
CONFTOWN to
TOWN ON THEIR OWN to
TOWN BECAUSE ANTIHERO to
TOWN BECAUSE CONNECTIONS to
LEFTOVER Pt. I to
DEPENDS ON TF to
NACHO
tl;dr:
ns and Ghost are town through mod. Wayne is town through deadscum.
Mac and TD are town if Antihero is town. Antihero is town if, well, Antihero is town.
FTL is town unless he's scum with Nacho or TF.
BRO is scum with TF if TF is scum.
But as you can see there are CONNECTIONS and I doubt there are more than 2 scum remaining.
So a FTL/TF/BRO combo is probably out.
Desperado is a leftover.
The only thing Nacho has going for him is that VARSOON outed him as Vanilla well before Nacho claimed it. (I think.)
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:14 pm
by Andrius
technically the antihero group should be above me and wayne but that's not worth reposting
with the amount of cops and stuff the scumteam is PROBABLY hurt more by RM's death than I initially thought LOL AM I CONFIRED TOWN YET GUYS? GUYS?
20. Antihero (Venmar) - Modified TownCop (can only get 2 Innos)
8. Mac - 1shot Neighborizer, TOWN through Antihero
18. TiphaineDeath - Vanilla, TOWN through Antihero
[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Saki, Aj the Epic, Waynegg)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[3] Waynegg (Ghostlin, Nachomamma8, TiphaineDeath)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] nickthename (mastin2)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)
[2] Not Voting (BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac)
Vote Count 1.14
[6] RachMarie (zMuffinMan, Andrius, Desperado, Aj the Epic, Waynegg, Nachomamma8)
[5] Andrius (notscience, Trust Fund, Malakittens, RachMarie, Faster Than Light)
[2] mastin2 (BROseidon, nickthename)
[2] Waynegg (Ghostlin, TiphaineDeath)
[2] nickthename (mastin2, BeautyAndTheBeast)
[1] BROseidon (Sound of Silence)
[1] Saki (Saki)
[1] TiphaineDeath (Antihero)
[1] Not Voting (Mac)
These two vote counts make FTL-scum veeeeery unlikely. I don't see varsoon-scum piling onto Andy right after two others hop on, regardless of andy's actual alignment.
I laughed. Do tell me how exactly you intend to prove this.
Well I can't go about doing this until people actually start talking to me. What do you think AJ's role enabled?[/quote]
Unless this is a "Hi guys I got a PR activated because we lynched AJ's ass into the ground" statement, then... it's a big steaming pile of "who knows"?
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:42 pm
by BROseidon
Andy he already claimed the non-commute ones, and he really shouldn't claim on the commute...