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Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:03 am
by Untrod Tripod
Show us some scum motivation, not just "he's being a meaniehead"

That's some pathetic nonsense, dude

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:04 am
by Aronis
hitogoroshi wrote:
With 17 players alive it's 9 to Boon. Minor Day One ends on Monday, May 4th at 8:00 PM CST.

:igmeou:

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:04 am
by Aronis
Untrod Tripod wrote:Shut the fuck up with this townbLoc nonsense

That shit is not useful or townmotivated

^^^^^

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:07 am
by Aronis
Titus wrote:Why?

Also, why would you think Espy and I were scum together, despite Espy and I being at each other's throats most of the game? That just looks like reads of convience playing both sides so their happy.

We're both town btw.

Espeonage is scum for what happened yesterday at the end of the day. You're scum for playing antitown and don't even get me started about your mindless sheeping of ffery.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:11 am
by Untrod Tripod
Ehhhhhhh I think titus is probbbbbbably town

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:13 am
by Oversoul
ActionDan wrote:
Oversoul wrote:TTH was a highly scumread player at the time, so tracing her is town motivated.


You mean after she become ~confirmed town?


That didn't happen but good try, AD.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:14 am
by ChannelDelibird
Untrod Tripod wrote:Show us some scum motivation, not just "he's being a meaniehead"

That's some pathetic nonsense, dude


Well, I literally just linked to a game that shows that you do that as scum. And I don't doubt for a second that you'd be able to tell that this is Gammatown if you were actually town.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:15 am
by Oversoul
Oh, AD meant the second trace.
I was referring to the first trace.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:20 am
by Oversoul
Untrod Tripod wrote:Shut the fuck up with this townbLoc nonsense

That shit is not useful or townmotivated


Was meant to show my strongest town reads. Didn't realize that was scummy. But do continue to not scumhunt and butch about other people's play.

Full steam ahead with the UT lynch.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:34 am
by Untrod Tripod
Townbloc is a jargon with a definition

Dont play dumb

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:35 am
by Untrod Tripod
ChannelDelibird wrote:
Untrod Tripod wrote:Show us some scum motivation, not just "he's being a meaniehead"

That's some pathetic nonsense, dude


Well, I literally just linked to a game that shows that you do that as scum. And I don't doubt for a second that you'd be able to tell that this is Gammatown if you were actually town.

Wow I do it as town too

One data point isnt a fucking pattern, dude

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:37 am
by Oversoul
UT who the hell do you suspect

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:38 am
by Gammagooey
Untrod Tripod wrote:Townbloc is a jargon with a definition

Dont play dumb

You have spouted an actually astonishing amount of whining bullshit instead of content

How big of a wagon are you waiting on before you actually try to make some bullshit reasons about why I'm scum?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:41 am
by Oversoul
Someone should neighborize me :]

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:58 am
by Titus
Oversoul, your post makes me wish I could make GiFs.

Vezok, it depends on the circumstances. It can be like that. A negative result says either VT or Victor or other lying scum. A positive result says that the player is either PR or scum. So yeah, having TTH being uninterfered with limits scum fakeclaims in case you haven't noticed. So yeah TTH could have copped CDB by seeing who he likely detected. If he detected someone like TTH, that would make CDB scum. So yeah, his result could be like a cop if TTH wasn't traced.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:00 am
by Titus
Am I the only one who sits down and thinks about the actions of both town and scum to determine the most objective action? :S

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:04 am
by vezokpiraka
Titus wrote:Am I the only one who sits down and thinks about the actions of both town and scum to determine the most objective action? :S

You are the only one who doesn't apply occam's razor.

Why in the name of whatever you curse at would I come forth as scum saying I traced someone who is confirmed town? Do you think I have a death wish as scum?

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:11 am
by Titus
vezokpiraka wrote:
Titus wrote:Am I the only one who sits down and thinks about the actions of both town and scum to determine the most objective action? :S

You are the only one who doesn't apply occam's razor.

Why in the name of whatever you curse at would I come forth as scum saying I traced someone who is confirmed town? Do you think I have a death wish as scum?


I suppose both town and scum are equally capable of doing Occam's Razor.

Town you would need to need to disclose that since massclaiming traces and detects is stupid.
Scum you would want to claim that in advance in case someone traced you.

Occam's Razor says that claim's more likely to come from scum.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:11 am
by Titus
*doing = applying

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:18 am
by TellTaleHeart
Titus wrote:I cannot even understand his Bulba read. The trace on TTH is pretty scummy. It blocks TTH, obvtown likely to trace, fromgetting a result, even if true. If anything it looks like scum protecting fellow scum to me. How do you get tracing TTH as town?

It's actually not that difficult. If you approach the minor night thinking I could be scum psyching everyone out, of course it would make sense to trace because if I
were
scum then I would probably feel safe enough to detect without any precautions.

Occam's razor cuts both ways here.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:25 am
by TellTaleHeart
ActionDan, Antihero said you should stop rubbing your nipples and vote UT.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:28 am
by mastin2
mastin2 wrote:singer, Cheetory, UT, Aronis, Gamma, vezok, most to least in there.
I'm waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back here, but I'd like to say...I've got a lot going on right now.

Physically, I've been feeling under the weather (post-competition Crash, you could say), mentally I'm exhausted (so much stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuff...), and environmentally, I'm getting a bit overwhelmed (I've got midterms, and I've got homework due today that I haven't even started), so for the next couple of weeks or so, I'm probably best considered semi-V/LA.

By which, I mean, I'll come in and contribute when I can, but I'm still recovering and setting my rhythm, so to speak.

Oh, and,
VOTE: DeasVail.

I'm sad that UT got baned because he was my second lynch for today. (I did see that much, as well as the horrendously bad boon on CDB--I feel that was very strongly scum-driven.) I'll figure something out after DV dies, though.
Quick stuff from the team, though:
Another scum-DV game I had. (Note that DV won, and I'm fairly certain I died calling DV scum.)

Pie wants Gamma to be town, and unlike me, isn't sure about CDB being town. Her townlist goes Tammy/Oversoul, Cheetory (there's a reason I'm not pushing Cheet, and it is basically entirely this and this alone), Marquis/Formerfish, TTH, vezok, Shadoweh, ActionDan, Bulbazak, then those two.

She still has both DV and Esp as scum, but isn't as sure about singer anymore.

My reads, incidentally, haven't changed, though they might after looking at the wagon overlap. (As I said. Booning CDB? Just seems hilariously scumdriven. Why? Simple. It's choosing to Boon a known entity: everything about CDB is public information, which the scum can subvert with ease. Choosing to boon, say, me, is an unknown entity. While I did in fact claim, I have claimed no details. As a result? Scum don't know what they can or can't do to me. Thus, scum would
strongly
be in favor of booning CDB.)

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:32 am
by Titus
Hey yo, TTH you going to respond to my town!Bulba case? Maybe provide your scum!Bulba thoughts.

Also, TTH you are not applying Occam's Razor. Occam's Razor has scum detecting unless they are in hot water and then they trace those suspecting them.

@Mastina, did Pie's read change on me? I notice I'm not in there. Talk to me more about Deas besides Tails of You.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:32 am
by singersigner
Titus wrote:
vezokpiraka wrote:
Titus wrote:Am I the only one who sits down and thinks about the actions of both town and scum to determine the most objective action? :S

You are the only one who doesn't apply occam's razor.

Why in the name of whatever you curse at would I come forth as scum saying I traced someone who is confirmed town? Do you think I have a death wish as scum?


I suppose both town and scum are equally capable of doing Occam's Razor.

Town you would need to need to disclose that since massclaiming traces and detects is stupid.
Scum you would want to claim that in advance in case someone traced you.

Occam's Razor says that claim's more likely to come from scum.

If someone traced him, he wouldn't have gotten a result from TTH, which he would've known when TTH claimed to have not gotten a result. Unless you're implying that there's a really awkward trace circle going around.

And...didn't you claim to have detected on minor night one? Occam's razor says you're scum.

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 8:33 am
by Titus
**By that, I need more than meta because my personal experience is different than yours and I'm naturally more inclined to follow my own experience and doubly so given the fact that everyone but you pushing DV seems to have faulty reads.