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Mastina you have been wrong in your every read this game, walk me through as to why this is different.

In post 4897, mastina wrote:

In post 4762, Flavor Leaf wrote:Elsa, you were there at the end of Day 3. He should have died there, but he didn't because he is scum.
I called him out Day 3 too.

And yet if he were a scum traitor then the scumteam wouldn't know he was a traitor and thus this logic falls apart, soooooooooooooo.

They didn’t know until end of Day 3. That’s why he didn’t end up getting killed.

You probably were able to sniff him out, so I was probably wrong about that.

This is Mastina pulling a classic “player is right for wrong reasons, so i can defend” ploy.

In post 4784, Flavor Leaf wrote:In the 2010s Anime UPick game, I was on the right track to catching scum before Mastina came in and derailed me there too.

Were you now?

Certainly didn't look that way to me!

In post 4902, mastina wrote:

In post 4784, Flavor Leaf wrote:In the 2010s Anime UPick game, I was on the right track to catching scum before Mastina came in and derailed me there too.

Were you now?

Certainly didn't look that way to me!

I was. I even had you as incorrect town there.

Yet you were pushing scumMe. You were wrong.

In post 4786, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I was fake guiltying him as town, I'd have retracted by now.

You've also apparently decided to stick to a 3p claim tho.

Seems to be a pattern lately for you.

In post 4905, mastina wrote:

In post 4786, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I was fake guiltying him as town, I'd have retracted by now.

You've also apparently decided to stick to a 3p claim tho.

Another grasping at straws discredit attempt.

This is classic hatcheting.

Ugh ok, I decided what I'm gonna do.

UNVOTE: Alchemist21

I'll hammer whoever you decide to get lynched 'cause I think both jjh and Alch are scum and at this point is just egos fighting for their personal reads rather than town vs scum. I don't know why FL would lie; I know he could be scum too but lying to this point? Also I know that mastina could be protecting jjh instead of Alch 'cause Alch has a less relevant role and that's why Alch has been doing the kills instead of someone else.

Soooooo idc who gets lynched between those two, hmu when they get to L-1

In post 4792, Flavor Leaf wrote:I mean, he could have abused it against you.

So you're saying.
jjh, as a scum traitor, on D1.

Went out of his way.

To specifically abuse his meta.

So that I, of all people, would townread him?

Yeah much as I'd love to have that sort of ego-stroking.

jjh doesn't value me that much; I'm not that fucking important.

No.

This is his towngame.

In post 4909, mastina wrote:

In post 4792, Flavor Leaf wrote:I mean, he could have abused it against you.

So you're saying.
jjh, as a scum traitor, on D1.

Went out of his way.

To specifically abuse his meta.

So that I, of all people, would townread him?

Yeah much as I'd love to have that sort of ego-stroking.

jjh doesn't value me that much; I'm not that fucking important.

No.

This is his towngame.

Oh wait...

He did that so you would night kill him.

In post 4807, Shiro wrote:Just as 98% sure you were cheeky was scum right ?

No, they are entirely different.

My read on CheekyTeeky being scum was based on meta and given one week I can explain that read in crystal clarity for exactly where I was coming from. (Also CheekyTeeky, I'd like to say that because you're town here...you're kinda a fucking hypocrite? Justsayin'.)

My read on Flavor Leaf's functional-3p fakeclaim being fake comes from mechanical reasons based off of my past experience with being the reviewer/backup mod for literally every Krazy Large game run ever.

The two are entirely different and comparing them isn't even apples to oranges (because at least apples and oranges have in common being fruit); they are so entirely different that the levels of disingenuous to compare the two is off the charts. The two have literally NOTHING in common.

It must bother you that I one up you nearly every time we play together.

Quit underestimating me, Mastina. It’s not gonna turn out well for you when you do.

Jjh does the same thing.

It just makes you much too focused on me throughout the game.

Paranoia from me when you’re scum is not a fun feeling, i get it

In post 4808, Xtoxm wrote:if jjh flips town i will vote him guaranteed.
if he gets away its because other people let it happen.

And other people will let it happen guaranteed.

Don't pretend there will be the support to lynch Flavor Leaf when there's none to be had.

In post 4812, Shiro wrote:I would argue that being guiltied count as when deemed necessary

jjh raised a perfectly valid point--he was going to show us more activity regardless but then SOMEONE decided to fucking QUICKLYNCH BEFORE HE COULD, and then posted an IMMEDIATE guilty thus disallowing content viewed without that context.

In post 4821, Shiro wrote:Btw I find it funny that she brings up an example of jj is not active when scum
This game he has no been active

Provably false.
His iso shows this to be the case.

He has a two fucking page iso and most of that's from D1--the polar opposite of his scum trait.

So thanks for proving my point.

My point holds, yours does not.

In post 4915, mastina wrote:

In post 4812, Shiro wrote:I would argue that being guiltied count as when deemed necessary

jjh raised a perfectly valid point--he was going to show us more activity regardless but then SOMEONE decided to fucking QUICKLYNCH BEFORE HE COULD, and then posted an IMMEDIATE guilty thus disallowing content viewed without that context.

Did he say that in the scum thread?

Shiro, we’re just arguing with scum. It’s like talking to a wall.

In post 2716, jjh927 wrote:

In post 2705, Furret und Woopers wrote:I kinda like him begging me to be a swing vote but then I don't really like him not helping me see why I'm meant to be a swing vote here D: D:

I can't like, townread him but he's not someone I'm interested in lynching rn

do you have him as town?

Yeah he's town

For point of reference.

This was jjh's last post of D1.

Do you know how many posts that was?

133.

One hundred and thirty three.

Of a grand total of 296.

Literally almost half of his posts come from D1.

When there was virtually zero pressure on his slot.

Like I said.

He was fucking active.

And look.

In post 3033, jjh927 wrote:

In post 3022, Xtoxm wrote:thats not what happened.
he claimed it in his 2nd post, with the 1st being "ego"

He did, however, threaten killing a mason so that people wouldn't lynch him

D2 posts like this show he continued to be active.

In post 3528, jjh927 wrote:I mean, I don't see anyone voting Alch or Cafe and I'm aware I probably need to revisit those reads now

But at the same time, Chaos Wind flipping scum in my dream is the closest I've come to actually having an opinion on Chaos Wind's alignment

Even when he was 'less active', did he prod dodge?
Did he lurk?
Did he refuse to give content?

No.

He was fucking posting content.

Because he's fucking town.

In post 4180, jjh927 wrote:

In post 4178, CheekyTeeky wrote:Guys 10 hours!

Then lynch Alch I'm not voting Gamma

Didn't really clock how close deadline was though

Even on D3.
Even on the lowest fucking activity day of them all.
jjh was posting content.

You know how much prod dodging he did?

One post. One.

jjh as scum basically does twenty+ prod dodge posts.
Here he had ONE, and that post was IMMEDIATELY followed by content.

jjh. is. town.

In post 4823, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, this fits JJH’s scum meta from Mastina’s description to me.

I just fucking showed with quotes and a very easy iso that no it fucking doesn't.

It's his towngame to a T. Demonstrably, provably, his towngame. You can just fucking iso him to see it. Like. Literally. It's there for anyone to look at and see for themselves.

Honestly, even if I didn’t have a guilty on him, if all you had was meta, i wouldn’t bite.

Meta is complimentary.

Flippynips called you out for it not actually being similar to the game

In post 4827, Emperor flippyNips wrote:His scum game is him saying he’s got irl things going on.

And yet.
Fucking read his iso.

How often did he do that?

And when he did it.

How often did he deliver content in spite of saying he had irl things going on, within 24 hours?

jjh as scum when he says he has irl things going on, doesn't deliver on the content or if he does it's close to or AFTER a(nother) prod.

jjh as town will still fucking say he has irl things going on...but critically, can and will deliver the content.

And here he fucking delivered the content.

Read. his. fucking. iso.
It's right fucking there.

I don't mean, "go by your memory of what he said". Your MEMORY of what he said, says,

In post 4827, Emperor flippyNips wrote: Which he may not saying he lies about it, but it looked like he milked it for sure.

Your MEMORY said he did it.
.
Because your memory LIED to you.
And if you actually fucking read his iso instead of pretending to read it.
You'd realize this.

I literally have a result that says he is a Traitor.

You’re talking like you’re trying to convince me that my result is incorrect.

That is you being scum and defending your buddy.