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In post 4887, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4712, Cafe Stile wrote:Just let us submit a motivate and have our green flip be one final fuck you to rc lmao

has anyone considered engaging with my scumreads on them in good faith instead of freaking out and essentially saying that it's ok if you get lynched as long as you stick it to me?

I've been trying to avoid interacting with you because my golden rule in life is if I don't have anything nice to say about something, then dont say anything. But you asked for it here. I actually said a word that I would never say in discord with Maika, just to tell you how much I've held back.

I HAVE BEEN engaging your scumread on us D1, and D2. Eva has been engaging with you in good faith. You don't get to play the victim card here. But at the end of that you say no your arguments aren't valid and your own opinion trumps the other people's better judgement, then fuck that noise it aint worth my effort. I've honestly lost what little wim I had when I saw "tana and ephraim isnt dead yet"

Like we've established D2 that for us to be a wolf, it requires a tinfoil scenario where I, a wolf, motivated the highest townread, for cred, and where Chaos Wind neighbourized Gamma Emerald, who just so happens to get shot by said highest townread, and we claimed that neighbourize as well. Yet you insist we should be lynched.
That's like saying "Tana & Ephraim can only be scum if they sold themselves hard d1 as the night kill, so they intentionally no killed that night, and activated an ability to have all that stuff about being killed posted in N1's result post. All of that in order to be locktown as somebody that got night kill attempted. And we should lynch Tana & Ephraim".
Dumb as fuck, isn't it

If your argument here is that we aren't good enough to have these good ass reads, then I mean, I guess in my perspective that's a giant ass compliment but in the shittiest possible way. Just telling you what that argument means when we flip town.
Like I could make arguments here and boast, like how in Krazy's Anime Upick I tunneled and vote parked JJH's slot for like 4 days straight, or like how consistently doing well in Turbo games, because those are games where influence matters less and snap read decisions matter way more. I don't have influence but I have faith in my reads.
We can probably roughly quantify how well a player does in a game by (reads accuracy * influence), then asking myself I land here most of the time


I don't care how well you think you play town RC, this game given the information we know, you literally land here if not more to the left and take it out on players who recognize you're being a negative goddamn asset if town


Thanks for coming to my mathematically shitting on RC

As for things that actually matter
lynch DDL or HH eithers fine. Better HH i think

Titus could be a wolf but like that was my fringe case if those two dont flip wolf.

VC 3.01

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Oversoul (4):

Katsuki, Tana and Ephraim, Dannflor

Croag (0):

Dannflor (1):

DrDoLittle

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

DrDoLittle (2):

Sailor Senshi, Titus

Titus (0):

Lady Lambdadelta (0):

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

Croag, gameplay506, Oversoul, Cafe Stile

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-10-09 19:16:55)

Transformation Gauge: 6[/b]

@CS, I respect your push on RC. However, I am in a mathematical position where you, DDL and Dann are much better flips. RC!scum likely has one of them as his partner (long shot SS).

If we find RC's partner, then I can turn to RC scum. This also gives us LLD and Katsuki clear which will help if we need to lynch RC. My vote isn't wedded to being on you at all. Find the scum in DDL and Dann and we'll talk. Notice I didn't block you.

Im not pushing rc
I just think hes a negative asset to the town

I spent the largest post i made this game just to talk shit to vent
Yes

In post 4903, Titus wrote:@CS, I respect your push on RC. However, I am in a mathematical position where you, DDL and Dann are much better flips. RC!scum likely has one of them as his partner (long shot SS).

If we find RC's partner, then I can turn to RC scum. This also gives us LLD and Katsuki clear which will help if we need to lynch RC. My vote isn't wedded to being on you at all. Find the scum in DDL and Dann and we'll talk. Notice I didn't block you.

Why would we ever need to lynch confitown RC? We have had 0 evidence to suggest T + E were not the scum target.

I do however agree that DDL is a better lynch than Oversoul. I’m not 100% opposed to Oversoul but I don’t understand why RC thinks DDL is so townie. I think his reasons for sr Dann wrt to the whole unvoting thing, ping me.

In post 4906, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4903, Titus wrote:@CS, I respect your push on RC. However, I am in a mathematical position where you, DDL and Dann are much better flips. RC!scum likely has one of them as his partner (long shot SS).

If we find RC's partner, then I can turn to RC scum. This also gives us LLD and Katsuki clear which will help if we need to lynch RC. My vote isn't wedded to being on you at all. Find the scum in DDL and Dann and we'll talk. Notice I didn't block you.

Why would we ever need to lynch confitown RC? We have had 0 evidence to suggest T + E were not the scum target.

I do however agree that DDL is a better lynch than Oversoul. I’m not 100% opposed to Oversoul but I don’t understand why RC thinks DDL is so townie. I think his reasons for sr Dann wrt to the whole unvoting thing, ping me.

Wait, you think T + E and us are buddies now? Seriously? First you’re sr a slot that is hard confirmed to be mech cleared and now you’re seriously suggesting we’re buddies?

Are you scum here Titus? Maybe I should vote you over DDL? You know, at least part of the reason why I voted RCE was I was suspicious about your whole RCE is neutered scum, where as Dann otoh, is dangerous and powerful scum. That made me paranoid that you might be possibly pushing him as a mislynch but I decided that you were town and I was being paranoid. Now, I honestly don’t know what to think.

I still tl you ftr and just think your RC read is insane. Explain to me how in what world T + E can ever be scum here, when the evidence clearly shows that T + E were the scum target, N1.

Do you seriously believe scum!RC gets his buddies to flip him? Like I can’t even begin to comprehend your logic on this.

In post 4907, Sailor Senshi wrote:Wait, you think T + E and us are buddies now? Seriously?

No. That's just a .0001% I haven't eliminated mathematically but if I had to put you as scum, it would be with DDL. There's zero point even looking at you unless we're done with the others. I find it extremely unlikely but I am candid about possibilities. My wording was terrible.

My wording and conveying of things is very unclear after surgery. It's the medications.

In post 4908, Sailor Senshi wrote:Do you seriously believe scum!RC gets his buddies to flip him? Like I can’t even begin to comprehend your logic on this.

RC and I staged a mutual bus early once in a Diffusion of Power setup when we were partners so the other would confirmed clear. I won after that bus.

Taking a shot to confirm himself is not out of range. It's just not worth investigating as his partner is likely in CS/Dann/DDL as scum.

Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

In post 4452, Tana and Ephraim wrote:So to make it clear, if we die, we transform and self-revive instead, if we die again then we die for good, otherwise in 1 cycle we revert back to pre-death. This is the condition i was talking about for transforming, we dont control it, we just auto transform if we die.
-Tana

In post 4437, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4414, DrDolittle wrote:Why are you not dead t&e

RC was BSing to avoid getting shot again coz we only die if we get shot twice in a row. Now scum has to waste 2 bullets on us to kill us.
-Tana

@Titus, did you somehow miss this? RC pulled a somewhat different sort of gambit to keep us alive in YGM and it is probably the only reason, scum didn’t kill us.

@SS, Yeah.

I also feel RC had a possible town gambit with his revive. He's gambiting as either alignment.

In post 4909, Titus wrote:

In post 4907, Sailor Senshi wrote:Wait, you think T + E and us are buddies now? Seriously?

No. That's just a .0001% I haven't eliminated mathematically but if I had to put you as scum, it would be with DDL. There's zero point even looking at you unless we're done with the others. I find it extremely unlikely but I am candid about possibilities. My wording was terrible.

There are two scum dead and you think I’d try to bus my buddy?

I know you’re not sr me but DDL? *mind blown*

In post 4912, Titus wrote:Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

In post 4916, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4912, Titus wrote:Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

In fact, if you recall RC threw a fit over being revealed, well, here he actually comes as close to that as possible without dying.

In post 4916, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4912, Titus wrote:Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

People said he was mech cleared.

Mech cleared isn't true. He's just like 99% not scum. I am very particular on that word.

In post 4914, Titus wrote:@SS, Yeah.

I also feel RC had a possible town gambit with his revive. He's gambiting as either alignment.

With Pops being rb’d by T + E, there was no other scum target.

No one claimed another vig, so how were T + E flipped if scum didn’t target them?

Anyway, paranoia gone for now.

In post 4918, Titus wrote:

In post 4916, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4912, Titus wrote:Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

People said he was mech cleared.

Mech cleared isn't true. He's just like 99% not scum. I am very particular on that word.

How is it only 99%? He was flipped, his role anyway. Who do you think was responsible for that?

In post 4920, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4918, Titus wrote:

In post 4916, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4912, Titus wrote:Not sure if this is Nancy but she can tell you about how I thought RC was scum in another game and was shouted down and gaslit by everyone until he won. :/

Yes, but he wasn’t mech cleared in that game. He literally can’t be scum here.

People said he was mech cleared.

Mech cleared isn't true. He's just like 99% not scum. I am very particular on that word.

How is it only 99%? He was flipped, his role anyway. Who do you think was responsible for that?

Scum. My theory is RC's buddies shot him so he could coast. It's just not worth pursuing atm.

In post 4915, Sailor Senshi wrote:There are two scum dead and you think I’d try to bus my buddy?

I know you’re not sr me but DDL? *mind blown*

DDL's gladiate sounds like a scum role.

Anyone outside the pool that's scum (barring remote LLD Kats) should bus. That's the only way to survive the gauntlet.

Or he could just have said, scum shot me last night but my ability stopped it, so someone needs to be on me tonight. I’d say the fact that he gambited and didn’t get in the way of Croag rolestopping GP, even more strengthens my tr because the gambit was arguably more protown than the other possibility I suggested.

In post 4923, Sailor Senshi wrote:Or he could just have said, scum shot me last night but my ability stopped it, so someone needs to be on me tonight. I’d say the fact that he gambited and didn’t get in the way of Croag rolestopping GP, even more strengthens my tr because the gambit was arguably more protown than the other possibility I suggested.

Not disagreeing. I just work from possible theoretically and work backwards.