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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 pm
by Bell
Just went through discord talk with unwnd and I would like to clarify that he stated explicitly that he didn’t provide fake claims to the scum team at the beginning of the game.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:50 pm
by Dwlee99
When I say fakeclaim I don't mean a mod-crafted fakeclaim.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:51 pm
by Bell
@ndmath: Did Unwnd tell you whether you had or currently have SP?
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:52 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 4899, Dwlee99 wrote:As a mod I would never answer that question directly if it was directly impactful on someone's fake claim.
I would answer it iff I had already intended it to be public knowledge but what I wrote wasn't clear. If scum don't bother to ask if their fakeclaim is viable, that's on them.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 pm
by notscience
Y’all best leave that mod duo alone or I’ll attack you >:(
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:53 pm
by Something_Smart
In fact letting the gamestate impact whether you answer a question is arguably bastard because it's mod influence on the game.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:54 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 4900, Bell wrote:Just went through discord talk with unwnd and I would like to clarify that he stated explicitly that he didn’t provide fake claims to the scum team at the beginning of the game.
This presumably means that at least some of the scum have roles they can reasonably claim
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm
by Dwlee99
I mean the other part of this is what has that slot done since claiming watcher and dipping?
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:55 pm
by notscience
Is SS town?
I have never synced with them this much before
This is really weird
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:56 pm
by Something_Smart
We played together in Smuggler's Port, right?
Were there any other ones? I can't remember any.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:57 pm
by notscience
I was scum you were town
I was in illicit as secret tunnels and I was in tenet as Annie Edison
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:59 pm
by Something_Smart
Right yeah
I don't remember us interacting much in either game.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 pm
by notscience
I mean yes but I still usually pick up similar frequencies and would have caught something like that
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 pm
by Something_Smart
But I also wouldn't say that it's a towntell for me to be reasonable wrt mechanics, since I generally don't lie about that stuff as scum.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:01 pm
by Something_Smart
Except insomuch as me posting at all is very slightly +town.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:01 pm
by notscience
You’ve beaten me to what I wanted to say like five times today
So meh.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:12 pm
by Lady Lambdadelta
There are a lot of reasons why a scum watcher hypothetically would target a townie leader who just led a town yeet on a scum target after day 1. Some of them involve role confirmation for being read as town/not being seen as suspicious. Some of them involve information fishing, as many roles might be likely to target me that night and they would be roles scum would want to remove. Granted, Sigmund was claimed, but it's a large.
I'm very confused that Titus didn't... come to this conclusion herself?
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:17 pm
by Dunnstral
Because that doesn't line up with my reads
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:17 pm
by Chara
i agree with it. if it is meta, not that, but while "uptight" isn't really the word i use i think Guillotina's attitude rang very genuine and very town. even if i disagreed with his methods they were consistent with what i could glean from him as a player and his reactions were consistently good.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 pm
by Chara
@Titus - don't really agree with the theory, a hypothetical scum Math could have made the choice to watch LLD in order to trueclaim his action, or for some other reason to learn about town PRs. i don't think it would be my first instinct as a scum watcher to watch my buddies necessarily.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:24 pm
by WhemeStar
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:26 pm
by Titus
@LLD, I'm not batting 100%, that's why I asked for feedback rather than just going with my theory.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:28 pm
by notscience
Wheme if I’m protecting you from morph you can’t kill my other strong townread >:(
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:30 pm
by Chara
can someone protect Chara from morph.
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:31 pm
by notscience
Oh my guillo read wasn’t Meta my only experience with guillo was xeno when they were obvscum and I called it out here and guillo got salty
Basically I’m saying scum wouldn’t be as self righteous and vindictive about their methods as he did, they’d likely have more humility
Ninja-
Tbh I’ve toyed with the notion of just one of you and Fark being scum