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In post 4922, Titus wrote:

In post 4915, Sailor Senshi wrote:There are two scum dead and you think I’d try to bus my buddy?

I know you’re not sr me but DDL? *mind blown*

DDL's gladiate sounds like a scum role.

Anyone outside the pool that's scum (barring remote LLD Kats) should bus. That's the only way to survive the gauntlet.

Oh I’m not disputing that at all, it’s that you think that hypothetical scum!me busses with 2 buddies already dead.

I’m voting him because I think his push on Dann is scummy. When other logical reasons are pointed out as the reason for Dann’s unvoting of RCE, he completely ignored it. Why wouldn’t town!DDL want to re-evaluate?

Scum is desperate to get a mislynch and Dann is an ideal target. I very much doubt scum would bus at this point.

Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

In post 4927, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

In post 4928, Titus wrote:

In post 4927, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

I already speared OS when i thought we were lynching DDL, i need to like... stop being so hasty with these things. Also i havent paid much attention to this game lately, but i dont think CS is scum here, i think DDL has high chance of being scum, so does OS. Idek what's going through RC's head right now but... it's concerning coz the people he's SR i just dont see as scum at all atm.
-Tana

VC 3.02

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Oversoul (4):

Katsuki, Tana and Ephraim, Dannflor

Croag (0):

Dannflor (1):

DrDoLittle

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

DrDoLittle (2):

Sailor Senshi, Titus

Titus (0):

Lady Lambdadelta (0):

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

Croag, gameplay506, Oversoul, Cafe Stile

With 11 alive, 6 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-10-09 19:16:55)

There have been a moderation error. It is dealt with.

On one hand tho, if OS is scum, the spear prevents them from doing vote shenanigans, they may be town, but they may have a lylo clause or something, I think that role is kind of OP for scum to have, but im taking the safer route here. Good thing tho is that if Croag is town, the mod error might have saved our only shot at stopping NKs right now. That reminds me, why didnt scum shoot croag? hmm.
-Tana

Croag is very suspected and Croag didn't protect Bitmap but you which is suboptimal. Sorry RC. You've been off your game and Bitmap conftown

If Croag fails to protect me or gameplay, I'll be suspect.

In post 4926, Titus wrote:Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

You mean a deep wolf, I’m assuming. I still think bussing isn’t optimal for scum with half the scumteam already wiped out. If we had scum!Saudade in this game, I would be then inclined to agree with you.

I think a deep wolf is definitely possible, since I’m neither sr Dann or SC but I’m tl most of the playerlist, so probably one of my reads is likely wrong but I also didn’t like DDL’s early posting either. They struck me as kind of fence sittery.

I also think DDL had a reasonable chance of being a D1 scum bus, so I would be looking closely at players who both hard defended LE and wound up on that wagon.

In post 4934, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4926, Titus wrote:Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

You mean a deep wolf, I’m assuming. I still think bussing isn’t optimal for scum with half the scumteam already wiped out. If we had scum!Saudade in this game, I would be then inclined to agree with you.

I think a deep wolf is definitely possible, since I’m neither sr Dann or SC but I’m tl most of the playerlist, so probably one of my reads is likely wrong but I also didn’t like DDL’s early posting either. They struck me as kind of fence sittery.

I also think DDL had a reasonable chance of being a D1 scum bus, so I would be looking closely at players who both hard defended LE and wound up on that wagon.

Can you expand on the last paragraph?

I need to do my VCA tmo.

In post 4929, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4928, Titus wrote:

In post 4927, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

I already speared OS when i thought we were lynching DDL, i need to like... stop being so hasty with these things. Also i havent paid much attention to this game lately, but i dont think CS is scum here, i think DDL has high chance of being scum, so does OS. Idek what's going through RC's head right now but... it's concerning coz the people he's SR i just dont see as scum at all atm.
-Tana

I agree and all SS heads are tl CS.

In post 4935, Titus wrote:

In post 4934, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 4926, Titus wrote:Scum in DDL Dann and CS would not. If there's outside scum, they might.

You mean a deep wolf, I’m assuming. I still think bussing isn’t optimal for scum with half the scumteam already wiped out. If we had scum!Saudade in this game, I would be then inclined to agree with you.

I think a deep wolf is definitely possible, since I’m neither sr Dann or SC but I’m tl most of the playerlist, so probably one of my reads is likely wrong but I also didn’t like DDL’s early posting either. They struck me as kind of fence sittery.

I also think DDL had a reasonable chance of being a D1 scum bus, so I would be looking closely at players who both hard defended LE and wound up on that wagon.

Can you expand on the last paragraph?

I need to do my VCA tmo.

If you ISO CW, I think there may be some associatives with DDL but not with Dann.

DDL was the D1 counterwagon, so I’m not clear on whether DDL wagon was a serious bus or just meant to look like it was but I’m leaning to scum seriously bussing him to get towncred, to keep LE in the game as long as possible. I could see why scum might think they get towncred for busssing and and keep in the game, a townie who will do their dirty work for them.

I should probably check the D1 VC again but I definitely think it possible. Scum!RC sometimes does that. He did in GS, if you recall.

In post 3188, GuyInFreezer wrote:

VC 1.11

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (0):

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide,

RCEnigma

, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (9):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald, Sailor Senshi

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Well, at least one scum was on DDL.

In post 2877, GuyInFreezer wrote:

VC 1.10

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (1):

Sailor Senshi

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide, RCEnigma, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (8):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Looking at the EoD day 1, I'm less confident scum would have gone after LLD for the flip. CW and RCE did not have the influence.

RC keeps using the rule of 3, which is problematic.

In post 4938, Sailor Senshi wrote:

In post 3188, GuyInFreezer wrote:

VC 1.11

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (0):

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide,

RCEnigma

, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (9):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald, Sailor Senshi

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Well, at least one scum was on DDL.

I actually think if scum were to attack DDL, it's for a better mislynch. Let's reads were bad and she had high utility for scum.

Oh I'm also not a fan of an Oversoul lynch due to the neighboring rule.

In post 4939, Titus wrote:

In post 2877, GuyInFreezer wrote:

VC 1.10

Tana and Ephraim (0):

Hidden Happiness (0):

Chaos Wind (1):

Lady Lambdadelta

Croag (1):

Croag

Bitmap (0):

RCEnigma (0):

Dannflor (0):

Sailor Senshi (0):

Cafe Stile (1):

Chaos Wind

Gamma Emerald (0):

popsofctown (1):

Sailor Senshi

DrDoLittle (5):

Cafe Stile, Lady Eventide, RCEnigma, Hidden Happiness

Titus (0):

Lady Eventide (8):

DrDoLittle, Katsuki, popsofctown, Dannflor, Tana and Ephraim, gameplay506, Bitmap, Gamma Emerald

Lady Lambdadelta (1):

Titus

gameplay506 (0):

Katsuki (0):

Not Voting:

None

With 17 alive, 9 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2019-09-27 16:41:30)

Looking at the EoD day 1, I'm less confident scum would have gone after LLD for the flip. CW and RCE did not have the influence.

RC keeps using the rule of 3, which is problematic.

I thought rule of the 3, specifically applied to scum about to be lynched.

I’m tl everyone on LE except DDL but he obviously isn’t going to be voting the counterwagon.

The were on DDL to look good post LE flip.

Then you'd want to be on CS and suppose other than LE, DDL had a threatening read.

In post 4929, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4928, Titus wrote:

In post 4927, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Ok so, regarding Croag, apparently GIF forgot that i sent him the action and didnt resolve it, so basically it's as if we never speared her.
-Tana

Can you spear today? I only care to coordinate.

I already speared OS when i thought we were lynching DDL, i need to like... stop being so hasty with these things. Also i havent paid much attention to this game lately, but i dont think CS is scum here, i think DDL has high chance of being scum, so does OS. Idek what's going through RC's head right now but... it's concerning coz the people he's SR i just dont see as scum at all atm.
-Tana

let's go with OS then.

Yeah OS isn't a high odd scum flip. Violates the neighbor rule.

In post 4904, Cafe Stile wrote:Im not pushing rc
I just think hes a negative asset to the town

you realize

at the time cw flipped he was tied for my absolute top scumread (with you). you called CW bad but towny.
at the time rce flipped he was my back and forth 3rd/4th scumread. you correctly scumread them so checkmark to you.

you went into EoD1 saying that there were 2+ scum on the LE wagon. 2 scum have flipped and neither were on the LE wagon. i got shot for rebutting you and saying that there was likely at most 1 scum on the LE wagon.

was i wrong on LE? yeah. was I wrong on Pops? sure, but i listened to the person was right.

nothing that has happened so far in this game makes my reads look anything but great without a townflip on OS.

Yeah OS isn't a high odd scum flip. Violates the neighbor rule.

neighbour rule legitimately is irrelevant when you're talking about competent scum players. no good scum player has any reservations about being neighbouring votes, mariar included.

Hey so
I don't want to be feeding the paranoia that is happening around the T&E slot
Buuuut technically they aren't mech confirmed because
1. Scum can NK among themselves
2. Stocking's double kill ability works on things like the gamma heal
I know this since I asked the mod.
BUT I do think its amongt the unlikely scenarios like LLD/Kats being scum so I still would go with the uncleared.

Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb