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In post 4923, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4919, Cabd wrote:...Posting levels of today?

I don't think posting levels are an accurate gauge of involvement/investment.

You're the one that divorsed my quote from the greater context of the reply to LLD it was in.

Where I stated that I recognized you-me-gif were posting a lot and choking the other three names out.

In post 4922, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4920, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh yeah my cabd read is locktown so I am going to skip reviewing that read.

You’re going to need to lay this out for both of us js

Gut

Note that I only mentioned locktowning Cabd not the rest btw.

In post 4926, GuyInFreezer wrote:

In post 4922, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4920, GuyInFreezer wrote:Oh yeah my cabd read is locktown so I am going to skip reviewing that read.

You’re going to need to lay this out for both of us js

Gut

I am a bad person for laughing at my imagination of how Kate read this post and reacted.

I mean I'm walking on a tight rope here.
I was hilariously wrong on Wheme already. If I'm wrong on you too I don't know what fery will make me do.

But if I'm right here, I can kinda redeem myself from that Wheme read.
I can go "oh yeah I was right on Cabd since Day 1 while the others scumread him for silly reason"

In post 4925, Cabd wrote:

In post 4923, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4919, Cabd wrote:...Posting levels of today?

I don't think posting levels are an accurate gauge of involvement/investment.

You're the one that divorsed my quote from the greater context of the reply to LLD it was in.

Where I stated that I recognized you-me-gif were posting a lot and choking the other three names out.

I was not the one, but ok.

You're being treated as a collective you when I'm too annoyed to pick apart tonal markers, so nyeh.

Btw I was serious when I said gut.
My strongest townreads usually originate from gut.

I guess that not seeing any reason to not townread him also helps too.
I don't think scum-Cabd would claim that he is better off being in another world.
I think it makes more sense to be informed town than informed mafia who just knows flavor.
Now that we know that another world is a dead PT, Cabd's role translates to "Hoi I give my alignment advantage when I'm dead!"
Usually these kind of roles are town. Why would he be able to contact Wheme (who flipped town) to get challenge tips as scum?
I don't know how restrictive those claimed communications can be, but it should be really easy to prove that he can talk to Wheme.

Oh I also firmly stand by the thing that I used to clear Cabd today.

tl;dr be like

1. Gut
2. His role is town
3. His reaction to Oda was town

In post 4934, GuyInFreezer wrote:I guess that not seeing any reason to not townread him also helps too.
I don't think scum-Cabd would claim that he is better off being in another world.
I think it makes more sense to be informed town than informed mafia who just knows flavor.
Now that we know that another world is a dead PT, Cabd's role translates to "Hoi I give my alignment advantage when I'm dead!"
Usually these kind of roles are town. Why would he be able to contact Wheme (who flipped town) to get challenge tips as scum?
I don't know how restrictive those claimed communications can be, but it should be really easy to prove that he can talk to Wheme.

Cabd did not claim that he is better of being in another world... that was part of wheme's claim.

Also, neither one claimed that they could communicate with the other.

There are two town players being really lazy in [lld, cabd, gif].

Looking at my interactions with Marci, and Marci's interactions with me (she basically pushed me all of day 1 up until her rep out, and I vocally scum read her all the way to her rep out)

And then looking at my interactions with Gamma - calling his rep in scummy, trapping him into voting dunn making him look like shit, hammering him in the governor phase.

I actually think that I am pretty clearly not aligned with that slot.

I think that Gif's is probably the most egregious, because he is at "bet the game that it is Luke" given his self vote plan (same would apply to cabd if he turns out to be town)

Like, I really think that those players have not even looked at me, and it is kinda sad.

In post 4722, Cabd wrote:

In post 4717, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4716, Cabd wrote:

In post 4712, Kate Bishop wrote:

In post 4711, Cabd wrote:Regardless the only options I accept here is me into Luke? Gif into Luke is impossible unless somehow we are sure the gif postdeath prize is so worth it as to be able to confirm me or give us two elims of the four living players.

Gif what were the reads of other dead town?

You should stop assuming our minds can't be swayed.

I tried not assuming that yesterday. It gave me thread fatigue.

Has your when-wheme-is-dead ability been activated?

Once he is playing a game. Presumably the night three game.

This is the communication part no?

In post 4938, Lukewarm wrote:There are two town players being really lazy in [lld, cabd, gif].

Looking at my interactions with Marci, and Marci's interactions with me (she basically pushed me all of day 1 up until her rep out, and I vocally scum read her all the way to her rep out)

And then looking at my interactions with Gamma - calling his rep in scummy, trapping him into voting dunn making him look like shit, hammering him in the governor phase.

I actually think that I am pretty clearly not aligned with that slot.

I think that Gif's is probably the most egregious, because he is at "bet the game that it is Luke" given his self vote plan (same would apply to cabd if he turns out to be town)

Like, I really think that those players have not even looked at me, and it is kinda sad.

I have thought you were scum since yesterday and even called you a possible Gamma partner since that long too. I don't know why you think I'm being lazy or not doing my due dillegence.

In post 4937, Lukewarm wrote:Cabd did not claim that he is better of being in another world... that was part of wheme's claim.

Ok I got confused on that one then.
Even then it does not invalidate my whole post.

I am pretty sure that it is just cabd.

I was actually thinking about my own earlier post, where I said that after Tarot, I would have been pretty focused on floating Marci past day 1. And, then we have the cabd/marci "clear" that did just that. And futhermore, when I started scum reading Marci, Cabd came to her defense -- not because of this role, but because he said she seemed townie in her exchange with unwnd.

In post 465, Cabd wrote:Can we like, ACTUALLY talk about that marcistar read though, Luke?

I got the exact opposite impression from her replies to unwnd, they sort of reminded me of my first large theme.

What data do you have that makes you feel otherwise?

This is actually before he asks her if she is fluffy. that happened in 666

In post 4940, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have thought you were scum since yesterday and even called you a possible Gamma partner since that long too. I don't know why you think I'm being lazy or not doing my due dillegence.

Mostly because Kate asked you if you looked at Dunn's iso for associatives, you said no, and then there has been no evidence that you did it since then. Or at least you have not talked about anything from doing that. I also don't feel like you could look at Marci's and come up with us looking like partners.

And even yesterday, you said that I was a poe into it. So it sure does feel like you have not looked at me at all, and are just ready to kill me anyways.

In post 4942, Lukewarm wrote:Also, I am not sure why cabd would have called shiro/sora fluffy anyways? Marci chose a cat girl flavor, so I see it, but when I googled shiro/sora they were not cat people. But that could be a lack of flavor on my part, idk

The "Cute flat lass" before that is definitely hinting ag Shiro though. Is there a reason why you skipped this bit?

In post 4944, GuyInFreezer wrote:

In post 4942, Lukewarm wrote:Also, I am not sure why cabd would have called shiro/sora fluffy anyways? Marci chose a cat girl flavor, so I see it, but when I googled shiro/sora they were not cat people. But that could be a lack of flavor on my part, idk

The "Cute flat lass" before that is definitely hinting ag Shiro though. Is there a reason why you skipped this bit?

Because the word fluffy was the bit that confused me

In post 4938, Lukewarm wrote:because he is at "bet the game that it is Luke" given his self vote plan

In post 4917, GuyInFreezer wrote:All right fine fine I'll reread this 197 pages of mess.
I actually need to solidify things today because if I'm wrong on Luke I only get like a week next day or some shit.

In post 4911, GuyInFreezer wrote:Most optimal way is to end the game today.
And yes I'm aware I'm self-voting right now.

UNVOTE:

GiF, I wanna do Luke and then discuss between Kate and Cabd tomorrow honestly. I think Luke ends the game.

Knowing the laziest person in this game that is me, I'd really rather do this while I have 12 days rather than 7+??? days.

Cabd, thoughts about 4947?