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@RC, Good luck with that. I'm only voting/shooting that if it's the last of the uncleared. I'd rather go for Dann.

@Gameplay agreed for now. Can we vote Dann? Then you pick your vig target and I can shoot in the remainder or vice versa?

Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

In post 4949, gameplay506 wrote:Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

Bb?

I did not transform. The n1 shot is not me. I think everyone knows that but since I am a vig, best to reconfirm.

I think the vig would have claimed the RC shot right?

I think Gamma is the missing transform? Unless you accounted for that?

In post 4949, gameplay506 wrote:Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

did u account our transformation due to getting shot on that.
-Tana

In post 4951, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

In post 4954, Titus wrote:

In post 4951, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

On day 1 they said they could confirm LE so everyone should unvote them. They have no capacity to clear LE. With LE's reads and having declared 1v1s with at least 3 town, keeping them alive would be extremely pro-scum. I realize that you townread people getting mad at me because you get mad at me but it's really not towny.

In post 4952, Titus wrote:

In post 4949, gameplay506 wrote:Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

Bb?

I did not transform. The n1 shot is not me. I think everyone knows that but since I am a vig, best to reconfirm.

I think the vig would have claimed the RC shot right?

I think Gamma is the missing transform? Unless you accounted for that?

Bb is bye bye

I don't think there has been another vig shot.
Aaand not sure about that.

In post 4953, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4949, gameplay506 wrote:Also there is a transformation missing from Night 1 that nobody has claimed when I asked so technically they an active ability could've NK'ed them as well.
Just saying for future reference if needed, going back to my life, bb

did u account our transformation due to getting shot on that.
-Tana

Yea

Anyway
VOTE: Dann
Will probably shoot OS tonight

Can we lynch OS and shoot Dann if it's wrong

I know OS has some vote mechanics in his role and know nothing of Dann's role. Soo if we are talking about shots, I think the OS one is more likely to go through.
+i find dann scumier.

i don't think dann is scum. i think this game can still very easily be a town loss.
technically we've flipped 2 scums but they were both ultra-LHF. killing them barely put us closer to wincondition and they were gonna die either way.
titus is a viable mislynch even though she's town, katsuki/lld will probably get lynched or killed soon if we don't hit scum, etc.

i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

In post 4955, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4954, Titus wrote:

In post 4951, Tana and Ephraim wrote:Maria lied about her role, that alone should be justification for lynching them.

Explain please.

On day 1 they said they could confirm LE so everyone should unvote them. They have no capacity to clear LE. With LE's reads and having declared 1v1s with at least 3 town, keeping them alive would be extremely pro-scum. I realize that you townread people getting mad at me because you get mad at me but it's really not towny.

Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

The counter wagon on Day 1 was DDL. Scum wouldn't bus to protect LE. So DDL is less likely scum.

Neighboring each other on DDL also isn't very likely. (That's why I am not an OS scum fan). If DDL had a correct pocket pick maybe, but I'm not seeing it.

So can you can explain how HH lied but I'm not to inclined on OS or DDL atm.

In post 4963, Titus wrote:Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

until you know OS's alignment, you cannot make any conclusions about what me "not being interested in" that wagon means.

In post 4962, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

In post 4965, Titus wrote:

In post 4962, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

If HH is/was scum I have had the best reads in the game by far all game.

In post 4964, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4963, Titus wrote:Let's assume you're right for a moment. In fact, I already did that at the top of the page. People flashwagoned LLD, giving evidence she's town. That wagon was lead by you. You also killed it.

The wagon that ended yesterday on scum, you weren't interested in.

until you know OS's alignment, you cannot make any conclusions about what me "not being interested in" that wagon means.

I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

In post 4967, Titus wrote:I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

It was a low priority wagon on a player who was going to die before endgame anyway and who was reasonably likely to be scum but not the highest value pick.
I believe I said at several points both to SHana and in game that RcE could easily have been scum.

But we've flipped him, and now we're here, and I wish we didn't flip him because people are holding that against me even though it's mechanically confirmed that scum bussed.

In post 4966, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4965, Titus wrote:

In post 4962, Tana and Ephraim wrote:i can towncase Dannflor: can you or can anyone else towncase HH?

Go ahead but I think you should take a back seat RC. Your reads have been off.

If HH is/was scum I have had the best reads in the game by far all game.

No. You wanted to protect RCE before they claimed. You wagoned several town to claiming because it was supposedly your last day, so we followed you. You'd change your mind and wagon someone else.

I'm not inclined to follow you anywhere.

In post 4968, Tana and Ephraim wrote:

In post 4967, Titus wrote:I was referring to you not being interested in the RCE wagon.

It was a low priority wagon on a player who was going to die before endgame anyway and who was reasonably likely to be scum but not the highest value pick.
I believe I said at several points both to SHana and in game that RcE could easily have been scum.

But we've flipped him, and now we're here, and I wish we didn't flip him because people are holding that against me even though it's mechanically confirmed that scum bussed.

That's the problem X could be scum but you would rather have wagoned town.

Like I said, you can say your piece on Dann but I am only interested in Dann or Croag today.

LLD is the smartest player atm, and she hardly posts.

Sakura hana can confirm these are moderately altered paraphrases from our discussion but

overnight night 1: "LLD put CS and CW as her highest scumreads
if she tries to derail those wagons, something's up"

me finding out about the RcE flip but before the flip was posted: "This could be mafia, it's one of the big slots I think is wolfy"

So again, you keep saying that my reads have been bad but that hasn't actually been true outside of LE and if HH was scum it means that I've done better than literally anyone in this game.

Huh
Ok
Anyway maybe I can towncase HH but I just don't see the point here. Its down to a few players and I have my reasons to prefer Dann over OS
If you want towncase Dann. I would be interested to see your PoV. Tho I can't say I can be convinced at this point

Like it's simply objectively untrue that my reads have been bad. All over the place maybe but my reads are always all over the place. At least, not without an HH flip.
And I think scumreading CS night 1 is very forgivable since they tried to push all discussion onto the LE wagon being scum when we have seen 2 scumflips not on the LE wagon.

Huh
Ok
Anyway maybe I can towncase HH but I just don't see the point here. Its down to a few players and I have my reasons to prefer Dann over OS
If you want towncase Dann. I would be interested to see your PoV. Tho I can't say I can be convinced at this point

Why do I get the feeling half of the players on this game are getting off on dismissing my reads even if their reason for doing so is objectively false?

OS is def dying tonight so dont fight guuys
@Croag can you rolestop me tonight as well