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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:51 am
by Datisi
page 200?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:53 am
by skitter30
In post 4967, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Why do you find a TW/SS scum-team even less likely? I don't think you've ever articulated that and I really don't get what in their play makes them so "townie" to you.
the fact that tw mechanically is very likely to be town and the fact that you're a smart dude but you're pushing for this anyways
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:55 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4974, skitter30 wrote:pooky my read on u is tghat u care about scum like 10x as much as u care about town, and that you're really passionate/driven and will do whatevr u can to win a scumgame, whereas u don't care as much about town
and that in coalition u didn't care about getting hammered cuz aldu was set up to win if u get voted out
i kinda think it's time. i'll address whatever's on this page cuz i'm bad at not answreing things but i really odn't think i'm changing my mind at this point
I can show you a town game in which I really tryharded really recently if you think that would change your mind.
I also did not try-hard at all in that scumgame where I replaced into Koba's slot
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:56 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
What I try-hard has to do with where my focus is - not on what my role is. If I don't get into a game, I am just not going to try-hard it.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:57 am
by Datisi
sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?
pooky claims (
4673) that he first asked to get executed in
3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...
theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:57 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yes that's my point - in coalition I didn't really care because the hammer on me isn't the end of the game like it is here.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:58 am
by skitter30
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:59 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4979, Datisi wrote:sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?
pooky claims (
4673) that he first asked to get executed in
3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...
theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????
do you really think raven is lying today about how she feels super ignored trying to save me and nobody wants to listen to her? I really don't think she's lying here - there's just no reason for scum-raven to make this play unless she thinks there's a real chance I survive today or if she thinks she needs to act like a plausible partner to Pooky in order to secure the Pooky-lynch. But I just really don't see her playing it that way.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:00 am
by skitter30
In post 4979, Datisi wrote:sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?
pooky claims (
4673) that he first asked to get executed in
3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...
theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????
don't think raven in ss/raven decides to align with pooky to push ss in lylo
and agree with u on raven around the bomb/vig thing, i quoted that a few pages back
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:01 am
by Datisi
sorry skitt i may have missed it or skipped over it idk ughhhhhh my head hurts
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:02 am
by skitter30
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:02 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
ok I msged the fogey section mod to give you access but this is the link:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=82687
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:03 am
by Datisi
okay yeah you did i just didn't connect what the quotes meant at the time. i'm bad lmao.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:03 am
by skitter30
oh didn't realize it was that game
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:03 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4983, skitter30 wrote: In post 4979, Datisi wrote:sorry i had to get the pagetop. anway i've been rereading around page 126 where mod confirmed pooky's claim was fake and idk raven's reaction seemed a biiiiit... tmi? in like "i still want to execute dsjstr, but let's see what pooky claims now" and like idk?
pooky claims (
4673) that he first asked to get executed in
3435 and that it was risky but shorty after the vig/bomb fiasco but before that post the tides were pretty turned around against dsjstr...
theoretically i could mabye see an s_s/raven team deciding "oh shit pooky's gonna be a great misexecture tomorrow let's get dsjstr today and pooky in lylo" but like... is this s_s/raven??? i don't think it is?????
don't think raven in ss/raven decides to align with pooky to push ss in lylo
and agree with u on raven around the bomb/vig thing, i quoted that a few pages back
yes but there is just no way raven as my partner decides to not bus me there instead of pushing dsj instead - it's just unfathomably bad play if she and I were scum together.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:04 am
by skitter30
i mean scum don't always play optimally
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:06 am
by skitter30
random aside: i feel like as my scumgame's gotten better my feel for playing town has gotten worse
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:08 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I played a few games in the fogey section before venturing out into the main site - I was invited by some friends from back in the day to play mafia with them when the pandemic first started - but the game where I try-harded and the game where I got lynched in lylo are different games.
I have the tendency to really be able to focus on one thing at a time and I won't put nearly as much effort into multiple games. If you look at my scumplay between coalition and nomination mafia, they are completely different because I only cared about the coalition game - I don't really choose what to care about - some games just feel more important to me. This really is not alignment indicative in any way. I think my commitment to this game far exceeds what I put into coalition and it's not because I'm scum here - it's because I'm town and my lynch is going to end the game.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:09 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
yes I know scum do not always play optimally - but the EV difference between bussing and pushing someone else when your scumpartner gets called out by the moderator for fake-claiming is just so so so big that I think almost any scum player who is not a complete noob would definitely pick the bus route.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:15 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4976, skitter30 wrote:the fact that tw mechanically is very likely to be town and the fact that you're a smart dude but you're pushing for this anyways
I don't understand how TW mechanically is very likely to be town.
I haven't played much of the modern meta so I can't claim to be some kind of mech genius but could you please explain again why mechanically speaking TW must be town here?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:23 am
by skitter30
idk i'm outsourcing the mech read to a combo of tw/dats/ss cuz i'm not good at it and all 3 fo them are saying that and they can't all be scum
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:24 am
by skitter30
dats what are u thinking rn?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:24 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
I can talk thru the mech with datisi then? I know TW/SS are the scum pushing the lie here.
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:26 am
by Datisi
i'm thinking about going for a walk and trying to forget about this game for a little while longer, why?
Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:27 am
by skitter30
idk i'm kinda ready so just wanted to know if u wanted to talk abt anything
enjoy ur walk, don't think about this for a bit
