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D2 dragged on for a really really long time - we had 10 alive with 2 scum, and white flag was in play - if we hit one of the 2 scum - we would win the game immediately. Prism was one of the reasons for the day dragging on as he hard-stopped the bandwagon on Krazy which took off very fast - on an empty slot. If you read start of D2 you can see Redtea/Suji/Krazy got to something like E-2 very quickly.

Prism refused to cave to pressure and continued agonizing over getting the elim

Tweetie on the other hand was like all about getting Krazy elim'd -

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1097 <--- the thought process behind this read list is weird
1120 <--- this explanation for Puppy moving up 2 is not great - says she remembers Puppy having great interactions with Ele - not true if you re-read D1 which she claims she's going to do.
1355 <--- impatience with suji not being dead yet despite suji basically being an empty slot - doesn't re-read d1 as promised
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the puppy thing is because Puppy flipped as Chara at end of D2 - its a scum role that suicides at the end of D2 and if we had elim'd it, we would win the game on the spot on D2.

Scum have every motivation to try to avoid getting elim'd on D2 because if they get elim'd on D2 they lose the game.

So the fact that Prism was re-reading and looking for a scum while Tweetie was hardfocussed on pushing out Krazy and also moving Puppy up inexplicably in her read-list is pretty suspicious.

If you had the time to read all of D2, you would understand what I experienced with Prism and why I don't think he could be scum.

look at 2698

Tweet lists out 5 names for who she's willing to elim on D2:

Taylor, Hectic, Tanner, Lavender, Krazy - none of them are right.

In post 1076, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:catboi appreciation page only post cute cats! <3

Pooky how dare you do this to me. HOW DARE YOU.

fast-foward to here:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12188200

We are 5ish hours away from the end of D2 and Tanner points out this rule that apparently all of us had missed up until that point - which is that if the town do not reach a consensus by EOD D2 - the scum autowin.

Read the next 2 pages of the game.

MorningTweet posts a vote and logs off. Meanwhile Prism and Tanner are like melting down in the thread begging someone anyone to come vote. Which reaction do you like better between MTweet and Prism? One of them votes and logs off, the other one is like literally spamming the thread hard having a meltdown..

In post 4978, the worst wrote:Pooky how dare you do this to me. HOW DARE YOU.

it's only because I wub you

like look at this chart prism made:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12187997


does that look like a chart made by a scum-prism?


like I played d2 with prism - he really agonized hard over the decision going back and forth over and over.

Tweetie was way more happy with just yeeting Krazy and calling it a day.

I'm starting to see why your head fell off when I said I thought it was Alisae. My bad.

VOTE: MT I think you're right but I still maintain your "made up story" tell was silly >_>

HURT: MT mb

PRAISE ISIS

HURT: MT

Wow really

Yeah I definitely fucked up on Puppy and obviously I haven't caught the third scum, as you can see no one has

I'm ready to win or lose depending on Pooky's alignment now so it's okay. If Pooky is town we deserve to lose together at this point I think. (And of course Krazy/Prism did a hell of a job if scum)

Pooky, down to be BoP'd on my elim?

In post 4102, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I want to get this over with because I don't want hectic to continue thinking I'm bad.

I am down for HURT: nacho

I'd also be down for getting BoP'd

ehm, for real this time

In post 4976, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:the puppy thing is because Puppy flipped as Chara at end of D2 - its a scum role that suicides at the end of D2 and if we had elim'd it, we would win the game on the spot on D2.

Scum have every motivation to try to avoid getting elim'd on D2 because if they get elim'd on D2 they lose the game.

So the fact that Prism was re-reading and looking for a scum while Tweetie was hardfocussed on pushing out Krazy and also moving Puppy up inexplicably in her read-list is pretty suspicious.

If you had the time to read all of D2, you would understand what I experienced with Prism and why I don't think he could be scum.

Gonna have to note that low effort is very town indicative for me. i lost motivation due to how we get a scum flip even if the flip is wrong, and I figured redtea's disappearance made them a good target to be eliminated at some point during the game.

Oh but I agree comparatively Prism is townier than I by a longshot -- it's not really a contest between them and I, though..

It'll be Pooky/(Alisae)/worstie/Lav. unnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggg. Promise me you don't let Pooky pocket you, Lav, cause that's game losing

Pooky never had any issues with me until now when he literally has nowhere else to go with the Krazy option closed off. I'm pretty sure elim Krazy -> kill Tanner -> paranoi Alisae elim was his original plan (or perhaps paranoia me) -- that would explain the lack of any build up to this case. Just doubting my eye doctor visit out of nowhere lol

i'm not sure i have the will to go back and review this game to actually scumcase pooky. He always has some self meta that disproves it. It's probably worth noting his original defence was "I never hard bus as scum", but I noted that he didn't bus Ele at all, so now it's "I don't lose this hard as scum" which I can't really contest, but like, feels a bit overconfident -- Pooky is just 1/13th of the game, he can't singlehandedly carry a scumteam where one player peaces out after getting a bit of pressure 15 seconds into d1

Okay, well, I wouldn't have anyone else but Pooky eliminated, so it's fine. OH I just remembered, i did read thru his ISO once actually a while back. based off his play, there is no convincing reason to townread him -- whereas for Krazy I could come up with a few and Prism was obviously Prism

I don't really have anything new to add because ive been advocating for Pooky this entire time. If he is town I gladly will concede the game (hopefully) to scum!Prism, who would blow my mind. scum!Krazy was pretty good too, i never would have expected a tanner clear from him and i had reasons to townread him. I have made it extremely clear I want Pooky eliminated and nothing has managed to change my mind off that barring AtE and self meta that i really shouldn't let persuade me at all. And even from those, I never put anyone else as having a higher chance of being scum over Pooky

IDK. It's really obvious to me that Pooky should be eliminated first. This is the bear that swindled everyone into eliminating Hectic, then used Hectic's read on me to confirm town me, and then threw that away as soon as it became mechanically impossible for him to win without eliminating me

And for the record, i can easily do a giant wall of self-meta reasons im not scum just like pooky can. But at this point in the game does that even really matter?

Why do you trust Pooky over me, worst? You were right on the money for a good minute when you said there is no way I pass up a free win as scum. the stress of playing scum is actually unbearable

ALRIGHT i'm done. This is it, Pooky. I get the feeling you're not going to dodge the elimination two more times. Or at least I seriously hope so. Are we going to lose together, or are you just scum?

HURT: Pooky

Hello hello! I am-

really confused. The role pm was hella confusing. I'm not reading 200 pages. Someone can just give me a summary or specific pages to read.

Tweetie I love you no matter what and in my mind you deserve to have won this game and you have <3

In post 4992, Noraa wrote:Hello hello! I am-

really confused. The role pm was hella confusing. I'm not reading 200 pages. Someone can just give me a summary or specific pages to read.

um what is confusing about your role pm?

are you some kind of power role? lol has prism been holding out on us ?

In post 4990, Morning Tweet wrote:Pooky never had any issues with me until now when he literally has nowhere else to go with the Krazy option closed off. I'm pretty sure elim Krazy -> kill Tanner -> paranoi Alisae elim was his original plan (or perhaps paranoia me) -- that would explain the lack of any build up to this case. Just doubting my eye doctor visit out of nowhere lol

this is not true.

4669 is probably the first significant move I make against Tweetie - as you can see Krazy is not closed off at that point in the game.

I don't actually know if I'm a power role. Lemme go read it again. I think I skimmed it and I was a vegetable or something?

In post 4990, Morning Tweet wrote:IDK. It's really obvious to me that Pooky should be eliminated first. This is the bear that swindled everyone into eliminating Hectic, then used Hectic's read on me to confirm town me, and then threw that away as soon as it became mechanically impossible for him to win without eliminating me

If I was scum I would just conf-town you - I have no reason to lock you into an unconf-slot and then try to attack you.

In post 4996, Noraa wrote:I don't actually know if I'm a power role. Lemme go read it again. I think I skimmed it and I was a vegetable or something?

do you have any special powers? :3

I don't think I'm a pr, no. I see nothing that's like you can role block or something.