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Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:27 am
by Datisi
i believe s_s visited no one

i do not in the slightest believe that clears him

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:28 am
by Andante
UNVOTE: mena

even if we lim mena, I probably shouldn't be voting the maf vengeful lol

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:28 am
by catboi
i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:28 am
by Andante
In post 4977, catboi wrote:i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig
if mena is venge... and maf

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:29 am
by Andante
Like, I genuinely do not believe mena is real, the more I think about it... only tells us about a GUILTY after being prodded? mena definitely saw the guilty earlier

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:30 am
by Andante
In post 4977, catboi wrote:i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig
cause if you're town, we flip you, flip mena the vengeful tomorrow and lose

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:32 am
by catboi
right the whole timing of it makes it beyond obvious that it's not real

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:32 am
by catboi
In post 4980, Andante wrote:
In post 4977, catboi wrote:i was going to say i'd rather be yeeted today than be the potential game losing miselim tomorrow but potential n3 vig
cause if you're town, we flip you, flip mena the vengeful tomorrow and lose
well that or scum have a n3 vig and just win overnight

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:33 am
by Andante
and the "don't hammer it" uh what? if you're calling catboi a hard guilty... and you don't want it hammered? is this your SR from reading? meaning you've been here...

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:33 am
by Andante
if mena isn't vengeful, I don't think maf have that slot

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:33 am
by catboi
actually it's possible he was lurking it out this whole time to see whether it was safe to fakeclaim or not

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:35 am
by skitter30
Fwiw i dont think he was doing that irregardless of his alignment

But if we're postulatibg mena is venge bracket, we still have a missing vig slot

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:36 am
by Datisi
if mena is vengeful, then there has to be scum within me/catboi/skitter as the 1s vig

me being scum means doubled up numbers
catboi being scum means this whole thing today was scum theatre and frankly what the fuck
skitter being scum is? eh?? i GUESS???

so i kinda don't think he is vengeful but idk lole

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:50 am
by Andante
GUYS GUYS GUYS I was going about my morning, and I had a thought, I don't think Dats can be maf here actually. which means my reads are just.. yeah. I think dats is up with Alyssa and SS and my strongest TRs and that scares me.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:51 am
by Andante
ok, I'm going back to skitter claiming to have picked jk. so why were we going after me being maf, for picking jk instead of tracker, yet skitter openly claims jk and no one questions her?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:52 am
by Datisi
please tell me your thought process behind me being town because i *really* want to hear it

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:53 am
by Andante
@Mena, get back here and explain if your claim is real or not please

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:00 am
by Andante
In post 4990, Datisi wrote:please tell me your thought process behind me being town because i *really* want to hear it
hahaha see, I'm TRing Kaji for getting all mad at me over I don't remember what, and I remember there was something with you that really angered me as well, so like, I can't just TR kaji but not you, like, I still need to go back for sure, I know there's parts I don't tr you for, but also like, when I ask you for maf if mena were real, and you go through that process to say it's me and ss? ehh I feel like maf you would've went about that differently.

My brain is just too scrambled tbh. I just wanna flip mare for doing nothing, but then that leaves the question of who else? Say mena's claim is real, there's a maf in mena/cat. I liked your comment about scum theater, like, honestly there's been something very off about how people are interacting with cat, like, hmm what if it was a skitter/mena/cat team? bus the one that has like universal suspicion, go "oh yeah skitter town"

like, it ultimately goes down to what I'm TRing kaji for vs you, like, I see no reason I shouldn't tr both yall if I'm TRing 1, but yours is a stronger level tr, like, you're over there all "you aren't actually doing much!" even though I'm genuinely trying, I feel like it'd be a lot easier for maf to just leave me alone/let me lead myself to confusion. Also the IV kill night 1, I don't think you'd have killed the one that was in your pocket that quickly tbh

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:06 am
by Andante
watch this maf team be dats/Alyssa/SS ... if that's the case, skitter, I'm gonna need you to like start taking charge lol same for you catboi... ok, I'm letting this game sit, and we'll see what I think after time away, cause it feels super simple, yet impossible... I still think yall getting cakez was a dumb wagon tbh cakez should still be here

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:18 am
by Something_Smart
In post 4961, skitter30 wrote:Is no-flipping crazy here?
One advantage to it is it lets us prove whether Mena is really ascetic cop; if we trust that Andante and Mare are both town, we can no-exe and have them both try to visit him.

This would not clear him but it could guilty him if he's vengeful, or BP, or some other scum role desperation claiming.

If scum have a vengeful or N3 vig elsewhere, then a no-exe today is reasonable, otherwise it's obviously bad. Given the amount of VT claims and the fact that scum obviously wanted killing power I would say it's probably better than even odds that they do.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:19 am
by Something_Smart
In post 4970, skitter30 wrote:Can we flip venge in elo or is it just auto-loss if we dont take venge our before elo?
I think if scum venge survives to elo we have to execute them last in order to win.

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:25 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
In post 4956, Datisi wrote:if this were any other game, i'd recommend yeeting outside of mena/catboi to see if mena dies or not, but if we hit green it's probably not gonna be looking great, and i don't think we manage to actually agree on a scumread
In post 4972, Datisi wrote:i absolutely do not want to noflip

mena isn't going to die because his slot will continue to look garbage and we'll be stuck in the same shit tomorrow, except it actually will be mylo
Humhum

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:29 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
I'm thinking it's Datisi/Menalque/? atm

Gut tells me it's probably one of S_S/Kaiji

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:31 am
by Datisi
In post 4996, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:
In post 4956, Datisi wrote:if this were any other game, i'd recommend yeeting outside of mena/catboi to see if mena dies or not, but if we hit green it's probably not gonna be looking great, and i don't think we manage to actually agree on a scumread
In post 4972, Datisi wrote:i absolutely do not want to noflip

mena isn't going to die because his slot will continue to look garbage and we'll be stuck in the same shit tomorrow, except it actually will be mylo
Humhum
what are you attempting to achieve with this post

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:32 am
by Kaiji
Im thinking we flip mena.

I think mena claimed cop to implicate me if scum and his flip will help resolve skitter too if town