Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Nicki Minaj]

(We're in agreement that our question to sottyrulez can wait...ooh! Just thought of something. Sotty, are you Troll himself? Your role name has no other descriptor?)

Faraday, wasn't your reaction to my first post "Mina, are you scum?" That's pretty much implying you found it scummy. Now you seem to find that post townish (or at least, my question about evil-aligned town players), but my reaction to your question "interesting." What exactly prompted your question? I feel as though you keep on oscillating between implying you think I'm town and implying you think I'm scum.

[Faraday]

The katsuki question was scummy.

[Faraday]

Although I guess I don't see Mina-scum asking the question about Evil Aligned players. But then your refusing to answer my question is scummy. I dunno.

[Equinox]

quadz08, my friend, don't run away. It was just a vote!

Faraday, there wasn't a reason to suddenly take your hands off me there; I'm perfectly capable of doing something like that on purpose as scum.

[Zachrulez]

Exact role name is High Priest/Priestess of Zorblag.

[Faraday]

Seemed genuine to me.

[sottyrulez]

Argh.

Exact role name is High Priest/Priestess of Zorblag.

[Equinox]

Sotty, are you Troll himself? Your role name has no other descriptor?

Mind if I ask why this is of interest?

Seemed genuine to me.

*shrug*

Unvote, Vote: quadz08

[quadz08]

OMGUS HOOOOOOOOOOO!

Farday and Equinox's quick vote-switches are bad. Equinox not answering my question makes it worse.

However, NM's recent post solidifies my position on them. Vote stays for now.

[Plum]

The second is that those domains listed in the post after the rules aren't all the domains- more can be added through certain casts as the game goes on, although I don't THINK there are would be any roles that only use a domain that hasn't been added yet.

Shiny

.

Welcome all, and thanks to our wonderful, well-meaning (yes, I like the letter W) mod Vi for running this great game in such an orderly fashion.

Also, goddamn Nikanor ninja-ing me before I could make my own original random vote.

Vote: MOI

Scum caught pre-game.
Faraday is his buddy.

Refresh my memory of the pregame. What interaction? Is this a serious vote?

Let's get things moving with some

obvious role-fishing that will get us lynched D1

theory speculation.

Who thinks alignments are related to allegiance? Will anyone admit to being a player whose alignment is [Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic] Evil, but whose allegiance is town?

1. Are you serious about Kats being serious? This was Mina speaking, and Mina has experience (and I think she experience with Kats, too, but wait for the check on that one). Mina taking this any sort of seriously is

not

within the ordinary realm of reactions for someone of Mina's caliber. She was active in the signup thread and presumably active enough during pre-game to have read the rules. Reacting like this betrays

something

, possibly something akin to skittishness, possibly not - but the

2. I don't buy this theory-speculation-gets-the-ball-rolling, and the little crossed-out joke seems geared to ward off the possibility of being attacked for it because lol. Lol no, I do not think so. Why do you refer to this as 'theory speculation' given that it's an open question about mechanics,

not

a speculation (unless you mean to imply the speculation that alignment Evil = scum)??? What sort of ball-rolling were you anticipating springing from this question?

VOTE: Nicki Minaj

Yes the open mechanics question/over allallegiance claim of any sort at this initial point is a bad idea and quite possibly a scummy one. I have good reason to believe that there are distinct scummy motivations for prompting people to alignment-claim for such a reason and can think of no Town benefit from a blanket ask-and-answer of this question at this time.

Stop interfering with my attempts to role-fish, Faraday.

Seriously, there is a reason I'm asking this question.

If you're Town, truly, let me assure you that

now

is not the time to ask this question.

I could make a flippant comment along the lines of "Is that why you haven't been checking our QT," but obviously the only answer I'm going to give to that question is "No, I'm not." What reason in particular?

This is not a straight 'No' sort of answer to 'are you scum'. That is scumpoints right there.

Seriously, there is a reason I'm asking this question.

I don't think anyone doubts there's a reason for it. We just doubt your allegiance, that's all.

Who's "we," out of curiosity?

You? You and Faraday? The town as a whole?

I thought it was just "bad vibes" you had. But by "doubt your allegiance," are you implying that my outright asking someone to claim being town evil is scummy? Null, but you don't like other aspects of my play? I'm really self-centred. I just have to know what you think about me.

Passive-aggressive defensiveness? Check. It's an attack on Seraphim's implicit attack/suspicions in the most backhanded way - an illegitimate attack on Seraphim's suspicions for use of scumhunting techniques which are very mainstream-Town.

Ooba, that's very shiny

but

. It's very good to hear this right now, and that makes me feel better about it, but for reasons that should be obvious we may (or may not, depending) need more information later in the Day re: whether to Worship for your chosen Domains or not.

@Seraphim: fair enough on the "insincere scumhunting" part, because to be honest, I only singled out Katsuki's comment because I didn't see anything else worth poking at. The post itself wasn't scummy, but maybe he'd have reacted defensively, or explained himself openly in a way that seemed townish, or started a wagon on us, or just said something that would have changed the tone of the thread. There's no such thing as a useless question on Page One of RVS, IMO.

Did you think Katsuki's comment was plausibly serious or not?

[Equinox]

Farday and Equinox's quick vote-switches are bad. Equinox not answering my question makes it worse.

Plz to be explaining how quick vote switches benefit scum. And yeah, sometimes I don't reveal if my votes are serious or not, deal with it.

[sottyrulez]

OMGUS HOOOOOOOOOOO!

Farday and Equinox's quick vote-switches are bad. Equinox not answering my question makes it worse.

However, NM's recent post solidifies my position on them. Vote stays for now.

Nah, they're both town. Their votes on you make sense to me.

[Faraday]

My vote is very serious.

[quadz08]

Farday and Equinox's quick vote-switches are bad. Equinox not answering my question makes it worse.

Plz to be explaining how quick vote switches benefit scum. And yeah, sometimes I don't reveal if my votes are serious or not, deal with it.

Speedy vote switches allow a player to pressure multiple players at once. Additionally, it causes confusion for the other players.

[Faraday]

wow

[quadz08]

^goodposting

Oh, wait.

[hitogoroshi]

(We're in agreement that our question to sottyrulez can wait...ooh! Just thought of something. Sotty, are you Troll himself? Your role name has no other descriptor?)

What is this I don't even

Faraday is town for 45.

[Equinox]

Speedy vote switches allow a player to pressure multiple players at once. Additionally, it causes confusion for the other players.

Pressuring multiple players at once is bad... how? I don't think it causes confusion; iso me and you can see where my votes are going when. I'm not accompanying each vote with a wall of logic, but I think you can see the thoughts behind each one, at least.

Yeah, bad argument is bad.

[singersigner]

Wee, it's started!

vote: Nobody Special

[singersigner]

I read up when I get back, since apparently something's happened already...

[quadz08]

I dunno. I guess I'm probably just already stressed out from IRL stuff, but it was disorienting / confusing for me.

[AlmasterGM]

ATTN: ALL PLAYERS - VOTE: MOTHRAX

I am a High Priest of Xylthixlm. One of my abilities is to choose a player to

policy lynch

during the pregame. If we lynch that player on Day 1, we get DOUBLE DAY (e.g., the lynch does not end the day). Unfortunately, this playerlist didn't have anybody I truly despise, but I thought mothrax's history of flaking and/or unsubstantive posting made him a decent choice for a free lynch.

Vote: Mothrax

[mothrax]

Ugh. I site flake once because my mother was diagnosed with fucking breast cancer and you ride my shit for it non fucking stop. What is your problem?

In other news, I caught scum.

Vote Quadz

remind me to tell you why when I am not phone posting.

[hitogoroshi]

Also while I've got my setup speculation hat on: if anyone has an ability to tell us which Domains were worshiped N0 that can be used during the day, trust me when I say we could really, REALLY use that information now. Like it would be worth dying.

I'm guessing there isn't one, though - I assume all power will be in the form of Casts. In which case we have a BUGGER of a problem ahead of us as to what we do N1.

Preview-Edit: AlmasterGM is scum, and NobodySpecial is probably his scumbuddy.

Unvote, Vote: AlmasterGM

[AlmasterGM]

Preview-Edit: AlmasterGM is scum, and NobodySpecial is probably his scumbuddy.

Unvote, Vote: AlmasterGM

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