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Guyett's reasoning is basically "pressure vote" - guyett seems slightly town for it, singer is probably town, omega is neutral, RMarie's reactions are neutral, and your reaction is townish.

In post 49, ObsessedWithCats wrote:Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

So you are basing the reaction as town coming from AA9 but it would look scummy from others and then think my reasoning is off due to the fact I don't know her Meta?
Are you for real?

Well you know her meta just as well as me, probably better having been here longer, so maybe I'm reading her wrong or maybe you're not reading her (intentionally or otherwise). That's just how it looks from here; if I thought it was seriously off I'd have voted for you and said so. But having played the cancelled game together the defensive reaction didn't look out-of-character, and ArcAngel was as town as can be in that one. I can't judge from that that it makes her town (because that might be an invariable reaction, I've not played a game with ArcAngel as scum) but I can tell it's not as inherently scummy as it seems on the surface.

(In other news it seems that avatars are working correctly now. Am I alright to change it mid game or would anyone prefer that I wait 'til the end to avoid confusion?)

I am here today guys.. Hold on for a bit.. I lll come back with my reads..

singersigner wrote:And then Chaos, you haven't offered your own opinion of the "L-2" yet criticize others' silence?

Yes, but the way you word it makes it sound hypocritical. My complaint was not that they didn't talk about the wagon, but rather that they random voted and gave no game relevant information.

Speaking of my opinion on the wagon, I voted ArcAngel9 because her first two posts struck me as scummy. She doesn't vote, which limits information, and to me, it just looks like an action that scum would do to seem town.

Evil Regals wrote:Well with AA9's meta her responses to the wagon is really, really town

Was this sarcasm or no? I don't know any of you well enough to know your meta.

ObsessedWithCats wrote:So from the whole situation Guyett

very

mildly town, Chaos null, Singer either way and ArcAngel

very

mildly scum.

ObsessedWithCats wrote:Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

Again, unaware of meta. You mind explaining what made your opinion shift?

Guyett wrote:So you are basing the reaction as town coming from AA9 but it would look scummy from others and then think my reasoning is off due to the fact I don't know her Meta?
Are you for real?

Bit of a misrep. He said regardless of alignment, not town.

In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:Again, unaware of meta. You mind explaining what made your opinion shift?

Evil's comment about ArcAngel's meta, whether sarcastic or not, made me think a bit about whether what ArcAngel said would have felt out of place in the game we played in which I now know she was town. I didn't feel it particularly would personally, so she joined everyone else in the 'near-null' pile. I hadn't considered meta in my original evaluation.

I hope Evil Regals wasn't being sarcastic, because I agree with her from what I've seen.

Sorry about that all, I thought I had posted in all my games yesterday before going to lay down.

Good to see some discussion going.

Ray anything I can do to help you get more motivated I do love playing with you.

Welcome IV

Looks like this newbie game does not have any newbies left in it....


One thing we need to do though is pick up the activity (me included) 3 pages since we started?

In post 49, ObsessedWithCats wrote:Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

Innocentvillager, any thoughts on the game so far? It seems we're out of RVS. And Ray do we get your opinion on Guyett's vote now he's told us his reasoning?

I bet NS is scum

I do know AA's meta, Omega. Not sacarasm at all.

Rach do you have any thoughts on the reactions at hand. From your latests posts I can only see that you have one town read which is on Arc. Do you have any scum reads?

Iv - I know you are being funny, but saying NS is scum, but only coming in to vote Singer when other discussion has been brought and dodging doesn't feel good to me. Keeping my eye on you.

In post 59, Evil Regals wrote:I do know AA's meta, Omega. Not sacarasm at all.

Rach do you have any thoughts on the reactions at hand. From your latests posts I can only see that you have one town read which is on Arc. Do you have any scum reads?

Iv - I know you are being funny, but saying NS is scum, but only coming in to vote Singer when other discussion has been brought and dodging doesn't feel good to me. Keeping my eye on you.

Sorry I'll participate at some point

Seriously who gives a shit about L-2? L-1 is a bitch though.

In post 32, RachMarie wrote:Actually Cats its more what do you think of Arc's posts and the responses of several players. Do you think they are on to something? Do you think Arc could be scum? Or do you think she is town and there is scum on her wagon?

My thoughts on this is that we are now out of RVS since we have a major wagon going.

I am though a tad unsure about the speed of the wagon, though I do understand that her not putting down an RVS vote and then giving a flippant reply afterwards is suspicious, I think if Arc were actually scum, she would not put herself so out there on the very first page. So for now I am leaning town on her.

Rach I don't understand how you can possibly lean town on someone in like 15 posts

Where did you come up with all of this lol I don't understand

In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:Speaking of my opinion on the wagon, I voted ArcAngel9 because her first two posts struck me as scummy. She doesn't vote, which limits information, and to me, it just looks like an action that scum would do to seem town.

Are you new? Is your logic seriously No RVS vote = scum? Or is there more?

In post 26, ArcAngel9 wrote:huh!!

Chaos & Singer - Explain your votes!!

Yeah like Guyett said why did you care

In post 59, Evil Regals wrote:Iv - I know you are being funny, but saying NS is scum, but only coming in to vote Singer when other discussion has been brought and dodging doesn't feel good to me. Keeping my eye on you.

"keeping my eye on you" That just seems weird like wtf I like just got here and it's page 2/3 (lot of confirms took up space)

And seriously like what have you done

Also ObsessedwithCats looks quite town, or at least has very logical thought processes.

Moar later

Innocentvillager's alt status is not in jeopardy at all.

Mental note to come back with thoughts after work. At least I don't feel like the only one out of the loop by being the new kid anymore. >_>

I'm going back to university tomorrow. Last year I ended up spending the first week without internet, and while it's very unlikely to happen again I think I should warn you now that it could. Equally I might find myself bored to death and post like a maniac all weekend given something to discuss so I'm not going to declare myself V/LA.

RayFrost was that something I was supposed to understand? I didn't.

My comment wasn't really game relevant.

So far, I dislike innocent's posting style but what he's actually saying is completely agreeable.



I have a feeling.

In post 27, Guyett wrote:VOTE: aa9
Why are you concerned with rvs votes?

Did you take it as genuine concern? Serious question.

In post 41, singersigner wrote:Hmm. Still nothing (while noting Chaos is out of town)? I'm not used to this...

@ArcAngel9...how do you feel about the way people are responding to your reaction to our votes on you? Are you satisfied with our answers?

Requoting this because I'm not sure if it was answered or not (sorry if it was).

In post 49, ObsessedWithCats wrote:Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

I know you already had a discussion about meta, but what exactly was off about it?

In post 51, Guyett wrote:

In post 49, ObsessedWithCats wrote:Thinking about it I don't think ArcAngel's reaction is as scummy coming from her as it it would be from a lot of other people - I'd probably expect that reaction or similar from ArcAngel regardless of alignment. That makes Guyett's pressure vote look a bit off.

So you are basing the reaction as town coming from AA9 but it would look scummy from others and then think my reasoning is off due to the fact I don't know her Meta?
Are you for real?

Didn't you play in the last game with her?

In post 54, ChaosOmega wrote:

singersigner wrote:And then Chaos, you haven't offered your own opinion of the "L-2" yet criticize others' silence?

Yes, but the way you word it makes it sound hypocritical. My complaint was not that they didn't talk about the wagon, but rather that they random voted and gave no game relevant information.

Is that scummy at this point in the game?

Speaking of my opinion on the wagon, I voted ArcAngel9 because her first two posts struck me as scummy. She doesn't vote, which limits information, and to me, it just looks like an action that scum would do to seem town.

To clarify, she doesn't vote in her first two posts, which looks scummy to you? What more could you gain from what could've essentially been an RVS vote versus not voting? Did you gain information from innocentvillager's vote on me?

sorry will post tomorrow

Sorry all, all heck broke loose and I had to do majorly modly things, will post more tomorrow.

Prod received. Sorry mod for stalling.. .been bit busy..

and about game.....
Holy shit.. So when i ask to explain about a wagon? How does that become so scummy?
that was just simple question... if that was clear RVS, all anyone needed to say it is ..RVS or if that is reaction for me being bored to do RVS, why? Am I not allowed to be bored of RVS. How silly to say that someone is scummy for that?

I feel very very odd about singers reaction to my wagon and so is Guyett....
Singer goes first...
VOTE: Singer

In post 63, RayFrost wrote:Innocentvillager's alt status is not in jeopardy at all.

Amazed. I'm slightly

In post 64, singersigner wrote:Mental note to come back with thoughts after work. At least I don't feel like the only one out of the loop by being the new kid anymore. >_>

<3

In post 66, RayFrost wrote:My comment wasn't really game relevant.

So far, I dislike innocent's posting style but what he's actually saying is completely agreeable.

Unvote, Vote: RMarie

I have a feeling.

I have a feeling too, but Arc needs to post more. It's really, really sad how a town read off meta could be so easily tainted by her going into her scum meta. ;-;

In post 71, ArcAngel9 wrote:Prod received. Sorry mod for stalling.. .been bit busy..

and about game.....
Holy shit.. So when i ask to explain about a wagon? How does that become so scummy?
that was just simple question... if that was clear RVS, all anyone needed to say it is ..RVS or if that is reaction for me being bored to do RVS, why? Am I not allowed to be bored of RVS. How silly to say that someone is scummy for that?

I feel very very odd about singers reaction to my wagon and so is Guyett....
Singer goes first...
VOTE: Singer

You make me a sad, sad queen.

Now see. Here's what happened. You asking made me lean really town on you because of something meta I have on you, BUT then you decided to lurk/get busy/etc. Which tainted that read on you. Which makes me conflicted because there's a scum game where you lurked to no end and prod dodged the entire game til you were shot. ;-;

I also don't like this vote onto the Singer wagon.

UNVOTE: Singer

In post 67, singersigner wrote:

In post 27, Guyett wrote:VOTE: aa9
Why are you concerned with rvs votes?

Did you take it as genuine concern? Serious question.

Sure it could have been a joke... or it could have been someone concerned of their image

Umm Ray? IV is not an alt. I was in his first game on site (Newbie 1222) I replaced in as the cop. He almost got lynched in that game for being a bit of a VI and especially for not hammering Elmo Teh Azn when he was on shortly before deadline. I have had him in other games including one I modded.

You really think I got scum two rolls in a row?


One thing we need to do in this game is kick it in gear the level of activity is atrocious.