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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:33 am
by RationalMadman
then you are being really quite stupid.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:34 am
by Desperado
oh ok

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:38 am
by Malakittens
Each of you comes here today a hopeful. Wanting in on the game. A month ago you were in med school being taught by doctors. Today, you are the doctors. The seven years you spend here as a surgical resident will be the best and worst of your life. You will be pushed to the breaking point. Look around you. Say hello to your competition. Eight of you will switch to an easier specialty. Five of you will crack under the pressure and two of your will be asked to leave. This is your starting line. This is your arena. How well you play? That's up to you.


2.00
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch


Voting:


*bazinga -
*T S O -
*Desperado - ArcAngel9 [1]
*ArcAngel9 -
*penguin_alien - Squirrel Girl [1]
*Squirrel Girl -
*shos -
*JacobSavage -
*RationalMadman - Desperado, penguin_alien [2]
*No Lynch - RationalMadman [1]

Not Voting:
bazinga, T S O, shos, JacobSavage [4]


Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-21 16:22:00)

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:00 am
by Squirrel Girl
@Desperado - basically I'm thinking it's really similar to the Dethy setup insomuch as if we just get everyone to claim results and targets and no lynch until we're in a lylo situation then we have the most potential evidence to figure out people's roles and then puzzle out who the mafia are that way.

I'm not fully sold on the idea, as this seems likely a bit more complicated than Dethy, but that's my line of thinking.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:01 am
by RationalMadman
squirrel r u from EM

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:04 am
by Desperado
In post 53, Squirrel Girl wrote:@Desperado - basically I'm thinking it's really similar to the Dethy setup insomuch as if we just get everyone to claim results and targets and no lynch until we're in a lylo situation then we have the most potential evidence to figure out people's roles and then puzzle out who the mafia are that way.

I'm not fully sold on the idea, as this seems likely a bit more complicated than Dethy, but that's my line of thinking.
Are you here to play mafia or play PM the mod?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:06 am
by Desperado
Like if you can map out a hypothetical set of 4 nights of night actions and how you would use that information to ensure that we were correct with 100% certainty on the scum because we won't have any margin for error then I will consider sheeping your NL to LYLO plan.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:08 am
by RationalMadman
yay nl to lylo woooooo

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:24 am
by Squirrel Girl
In post 54, RationalMadman wrote:squirrel r u from EM
I've packed nuts in a few trees around town.
But this is an alt account and I'm hoping to keep it a relatively unknown alt account because I'm working on trying to shift up my play. So, I'll toss you a hazlenut or something, and we can have a laugh, but no stalking me or trying to get into my stash allowed.

Besides, you're DC. I have to hate you, it's in the contract.
In post 56, Desperado wrote:Like if you can map out a hypothetical set of 4 nights of night actions and how you would use that information to ensure that we were correct with 100% certainty on the scum because we won't have any margin for error then I will consider sheeping your NL to LYLO plan.
Well acorns on that.
Tell you what, explain to me your scumhunt plan with, if between our Docs and scum there are only 3 town deaths in two night phases, will get us to mylo tomorrow, so, we need 100% accuracy within two lynches and I'll sheep your plan.

We're in a micro, there isn't a lot of room for error either way, and no plan will assure town victory. The only question is which will give us the best chance.
Clearly openly stated night targets are needed.
Directed night targets is pretty meh.
I think the question of lynching is open to debate as I don't see it as a grand slam either way. Why do you think lynching is so superior?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:37 am
by penguin_alien
Lynching is the only place where we can dictate results. Night phase, mafia has a kill, doctors don't know what the results of their actions will be. Giving up that opportunity is foolish, IMHO.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:39 am
by Desperado
What do you mean, explain to me your scumhunting plan?

I'm going to hunt for scum. You've suggested we NL until LYLO so we have maximum information, as if nothing happens during the day that would constitute information.

I think you are severely overestimating how much we will actually be able to cull if we can even get a full and accurate set of night actions for each slot. How are you going to tell the difference between scum claiming their kill, a CPR doctor claiming a non-targeted player, and the Quack?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:43 am
by bazinga
hi guys!

whats going on

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:44 am
by Desperado
In post 61, bazinga wrote:hi guys!

whats going on
squirrel and rational want to NL until we're in LYLO and then analyze all of the night actions to find out who the scum are.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:46 am
by bazinga
desp, penny and squirrel all town

@ squirrel

lynching is the most powerful tool town has against no way are we giving that up.

also I have played and won this set-up twice before, do you want to hear my plan?

eta: xposts with desp

yeah I see. I think your right non that rat thing being scum and it looks like arc is his scummate what say you

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:47 am
by bazinga
also who the fuck is dc

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:48 am
by Squirrel Girl
In post 60, Desperado wrote:How are you going to tell the difference between scum claiming their kill, a CPR doctor claiming a non-targeted player, and the Quack?
Via the other targeting claims and flip information as people die.

Aren't you planning to do that too, just with tossing in lynches?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:50 am
by Desperado
DC is rational (Joker avatar)

I say I don't think I've ever read Arc right. What's your plan?

PEdit: Not really no.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:50 am
by bazinga
In post 60, Desperado wrote:What do you mean, explain to me your scumhunting plan?

I'm going to hunt for scum. You've suggested we NL until LYLO so we have maximum information, as if nothing happens during the day that would constitute information.

I think you are severely overestimating how much we will actually be able to cull if we can even get a full and accurate set of night actions for each slot. How are you going to tell the difference between scum claiming their kill, a CPR doctor claiming a non-targeted player, and the Quack?
what we did both times before was every1 agreed to target the person above or below them. it is easy to keep up with and that way you can determine what kind of doc abilities people have.

and just in case the nurse is a derp; don't claim obviously until d2 or d3.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:51 am
by Squirrel Girl
In post 63, bazinga wrote:@ squirrel

lynching is the most powerful tool town has against no way are we giving that up.

also I have played and won this set-up twice before, do you want to hear my plan?
I would be nutella about it.

Edit: DC is the Distinguished Competition. I'm making the remark that since he has a DC comic character avatar (Joker) and I have a Marvel Comic character avatar (the bestest character evah!) that I cannot trust him. It's a joke, a thin one I'll admit, but it's all mine.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:53 am
by Squirrel Girl
In post 67, bazinga wrote:what we did both times before was every1 agreed to target the person above or below them. it is easy to keep up with and that way you can determine what kind of doc abilities people have.

and just in case the nurse is a derp; don't claim obviously until d2 or d3.
So you left the up or down aspect up to player's call prior to night and then asked for clarification afterwards?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:54 am
by Squirrel Girl
Also, can you link to these games? They're not in your history here on site.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:59 am
by bazinga
In post 69, Squirrel Girl wrote:
In post 67, bazinga wrote:what we did both times before was every1 agreed to target the person above or below them. it is easy to keep up with and that way you can determine what kind of doc abilities people have.

and just in case the nurse is a derp; don't claim obviously until d2 or d3.
So you left the up or down aspect up to player's call prior to night and then asked for clarification afterwards?
nope. in the first game I think we targeted the person above them and in the second we targeted the person below I think.

lol, here is the last 1 I played. I forgot about the shit show on d1 and that I told my hydra partner bert that I didn't like him omg I am such a bitch. sorry bert!

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31352

the other 1 was last year and I will have to dig for it. I don't really feel like doing it right now.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:06 am
by Squirrel Girl
That seemed to work out pretty well. I'm excited to be part of this plan. Let's do it, and then Desp can also move past his fear of analyzing night actions.

I'll vote for aiming up, because I'm a positive person. If we get agreement for either up or down I'll then vote Rational.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:06 am
by Squirrel Girl
Maybe rationally vote Rational?
Puntastic!

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:09 am
by Desperado
Micro 112

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=25233

I just read it. The plan was target the person below. Town-Mollie didn't follow the plan because she "had a feeling" she wasn't a killing doc. Town won on D2.

That appears to be the most efficient way to do this, though--with the addendum that anyone who openly defies the plan should be lynched.

I say we go above.