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Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:55 pm
by DOMO
In post 49, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
In post 46, DOMO wrote:You know I'm aggressive.
The post was about Lucky.
Oh. You find lucky's posts aggressive?

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:59 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 50, DOMO wrote:
In post 49, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:
In post 46, DOMO wrote:You know I'm aggressive.
The post was about Lucky.
Oh. You find lucky's posts aggressive?
For page 1, yeah, I especially thought his first post came off that way. But, like I said, I got a slight townfeel off of post 14 (?). The one where he pointedly asked Majiffy if he was a mod-player. That seemed a little more like keyed up town than scum.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:03 pm
by DOMO
I just consider his posts to be fluff, not town or scummy. I don't get the remotest hint of agression personally. How do you feel about catboi?

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:08 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 52, DOMO wrote:I just consider his posts to be fluff, not town or scummy. I don't get the remotest hint of agression personally. How do you feel about catboi?
To be fair, your account name wasn't called offensive. :/

Have you played with catboi before?

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:14 pm
by DOMO
In post 53, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:To be fair, your account name wasn't called offensive. :/

Have you played with catboi before?
Scumfuck is my favourite of your hydra names so far!

I don't think I've played catboi, though I might have in my early rev days. I feel like AH's fos at me is more town motivated than catboi's lurk and vote style, which is why I'm towning AH and scumreading catboi.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:21 pm
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 39, DOMO wrote:
In post 38, Adaptive Heap wrote:And you are defending Lucky, whether you realize it or not.
Fair enough. I can see where you're coming from, I'm just a little alarmed at how easily you're towning people to reach these conclusions.
I took his list as less tongue in cheek than this one, where Mastin was the first player to post. I don't have a problem with people making quick reads on the basis of thin data as long as I can see they're still processing it when new data hits the thread.

@Mastin, is whatever it was that impeded direct conversation between us in that game also in play in this one?
In post 54, DOMO wrote:I don't think I've played catboi, though I might have in my early rev days. I feel like AH's fos at me is more town motivated than catboi's lurk and vote style, which is why I'm towning AH and scumreading catboi.
I've never played with him.

Your playstyle is pretty aggressive. I can see why you'd be getting backs up, especially in a game that starts at what is potentially the day before LYLO.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:30 pm
by DOMO
In post 55, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:Your playstyle is pretty aggressive. I can see why you'd be getting backs up, especially in a game that starts at what is potentially the day before LYLO.
This is the smallest game I've played, I had to stop and crunch the numbers to see that you're right here.

I don't even mean to be aggressive, it's not my intent, it's just how I come across because I'm persistent.

ffery you've given me no reason for concern yet, which makes me happy.

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 5:29 pm
by catboi
Accusations of being "lurky" in what amounted to RVS are laughable. Forcing things much? :3

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:22 pm
by Adaptive Heap
Unofficial Votecount 1.0(a)

HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAJIFFY

Scumfuck (1) - Lucky2u
DOMO (2) - catboi, Messiah Complex (L-2)
catboi (1) - DOMO
Lucky2u (1) - Adaptive Heap

Not voting (2) - Scumfuck, masky
7 alive, 4 to lynch.
In post 2, Majiffy wrote:Day 1 begins now and ends on Tuesday, Jan 21st at 8:00 PM Eastern Time
(expired on 2014-01-21 20:00:00)

-t

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 8:40 pm
by Adaptive Heap
Briefly regarding mastin's reads - seems we didn't need to sync at all.
I had Lucky down as questionable because the main effect of voting Scumfuck was to create a (second) L-2 wagon, but the content given in that post was pure RVS. The tone of the post seemed a bit exaggerated to me as well (as did DOMO's entrance, actually).

Messiah's initial vote obviously had some humour behind it. Scumfuck-ffery-head I know to not be a fan of RVS so no vote is nothing unusual - it might take me a bit more time to firm up a townread here but certainly feeling 'human'. catboi was the first poster (enthusiasm) and I thought we'd have good times voting down the list in sequence (which means, actually, that Messiah broke the pattern ^_-)

Hum, so yeah no masky yet - looking forward to that grand entrance!

-t

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:22 pm
by Adaptive Heap
I'll address DOMO tomorrow.
In post 43, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:That post gave me a slight, though rough-edged townfeel.
Honestly, it felt like cheap fluff, one that could be posted in any Majiffy-modded game. (And very well might have been--that line feels way too familiar to me for it to be unique to this game.) Not scum, but not town, either--something he'd post regardless of his alignment.

His other posts, on the other hand, not so much.
In post 55, Breakfast With Sandy wrote:I don't have a problem with people making quick reads on the basis of thin data as long as I can see they're still processing it when new data hits the thread.
Indeed. Awesome as it'd be, I sincerely doubt I nailed the scumteam in my first post. :P My best guess right now
is[/u] Lucky-Domo, based off of what I've got so far in the thread, but it's incredibly early in the game and my suspicions aren't exactly rock-solid.
@Mastin, is whatever it was that impeded direct conversation between us in that game also in play in this one?
Well given that I've been directly interacting with you a lot, I'd say no. :P

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:35 am
by DOMO
In post 57, catboi wrote:Accusations of being "lurky" in what amounted to RVS are laughable. Forcing things much? :3
I didn't accuse you of being lurky, I said it seemed you were being lurky. My language was deliberately careful, I'm aware that it's pretty silly to make such a judgement after 1 page. But you made two posts - first post of the game and then you vote for me after I join a page in. You dodged the p1 chit chat despite knowing the game had started. Thus, you seem lurky, or at least you did based on those two posts. I could be wrong, I have no idea about you meta, but I don't like that you're twisting my language to suggest I made a direct accusation when I was merely posting what I thought about those who were in. Your vote on me seemed opportunistic because it could be interpreted as waiting for someone else to point the finger, maybe a potential town leader, so you could justify a non RVS vote. I'm seeing potential scum motivation there.
In post 59, Adaptive Heap wrote:The tone of the post seemed a bit exaggerated to me as well (as did DOMO's entrance, actually).
I don't really know how I'm supposed to defend against "exaggerated".
In post 60, Adaptive Heap wrote:I'll address DOMO tomorrow.
The sooner the better really. I'm finding it pretty difficult to settle in because I'm on the defensive already.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:27 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
In post 59, Adaptive Heap wrote:Scumfuck-ffery-head I know to not be a fan of RVS so no vote is nothing unusual.
Common misconception. I like the RVS phase quite a bit actually. I just approach it a little differently. In a large game I usually wind up with at least 2-3 townreads that stand the test of time during RVS and the transition to srsbsns.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:49 am
by Breakfast With Sandy
Mastin, have you played with Lucky before?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:31 am
by Lucky2u
Ooo... I'm being aggressive am I? I had to check up on my iso here but that is the most laughable thing I've heard all year! (it's only been a week so far in 2014, so my standards are low.)

You are all giving me too much credit for my actions, both the people reading it town and scum. I don't think through anything and I just post impulsively.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:11 am
by DOMO
lucky, do you have an opinion on the current game state? Because you seem interested in people's opinion of you, without drawing any conclusions to their motives.

Do you have any reads?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:51 am
by Majiffy
In post 58, Adaptive Heap wrote:HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAJIFFY
Danke!

Maybe when I get a copy of it, you guys can see me singing Blackstreet's "No Diggity" at karaoke last night.

I also did a boss cover of Black Sabbath's "War Pigs", but no video of that. :(

Scumfuck (L-3): Lucky2u
Lucky2u(L-3): Adaptive Heap
DOMO (L-2): catboi, Messiah Complex
catboi (L-3): DOMO

Not Voting: Scumfuck, masky
7 alive, 4 to lynch.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:18 pm
by catboi
In post 61, DOMO wrote:I didn't accuse you of being lurky, I said it seemed you were being lurky. My language was deliberately careful, I'm aware that it's pretty silly to make such a judgement after 1 page. But you made two posts - first post of the game and then you vote for me after I join a page in. You dodged the p1 chit chat despite knowing the game had started. Thus, you seem lurky, or at least you did based on those two posts. I could be wrong, I have no idea about you meta, but I don't like that you're twisting my language to suggest I made a direct accusation when I was merely posting what I thought about those who were in. Your vote on me seemed opportunistic because it could be interpreted as waiting for someone else to point the finger, maybe a potential town leader, so you could justify a non RVS vote. I'm seeing potential scum motivation there.
I know the individual meaning of the words in this post, but when I attempt to parse them as a sentence none of it comes together. Seriously, "I didn't accuse you of being lurky, I said it seemed you were being lurky." Is there any difference, other than hedging your language?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:40 pm
by DOMO
Yes, there's a difference.

"You are being lurky" is a direct, fixed accusation.
"You seem lurky" is an observation open to interpretation.

You're proving to me that you're not lurky. So instead of focussing on my language, how about responding to the vote on me after AH waved his finger at me? Can you understand why I find this opportunistic?

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:01 pm
by catboi
I'm being opportunistic on a joke fos in RVS. Okay.

See, your reaction to what is obviously a joke is why I voted you to begin with.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:04 pm
by DOMO
In post 69, catboi wrote:I'm being opportunistic on a joke fos in RVS. Okay.
Read my 3rd post. I don't think it was a joke.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:28 pm
by catboi
Oh. Just re-read it. You're right, I was wrong. I still don't like the response, though.

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:33 pm
by catboi
ugh i'm starting to understand you though

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 7:53 pm
by Adaptive Heap
In post 61, DOMO wrote:
In post 59, Adaptive Heap wrote:The tone of the post seemed a bit exaggerated to me as well (as did DOMO's entrance, actually).
I don't really know how I'm supposed to defend against "exaggerated".
Why are you feeling so defensive? You're only at L-2 at the moment and the only other folks (aside from our slot) who've indicated they might want to lynch you, are already voting you.

Your entrance vote put mastin and I at L-1. I heard you when you said you had to do mental calculations on potential lylo tomorrow - I'm just surprised you didn't even think about the impact of a speedmislynch in such a small game. Or did you?
In post 64, Lucky2u wrote:You are all giving me too much credit for my actions, both the people reading it town and scum. I don't think through anything and I just post impulsively.
Who is supposed to take credit for your actions, if not you? Who is the next best lynch after Scumfuck? (Seconding DOMO's question about reads or suspicions from your perspective)
In post 66, Majiffy wrote: Maybe when I get a copy of it, you guys can see me singing Blackstreet's "No Diggity" at karaoke last night.
Yes. Please. :D

Also what happened to Messiah - and where's masky?

@Mod - is masky being replaced?


-t

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:44 pm
by Messiah Complex
We are around. I haven't had a day off since last Thursday, so I am a bit behind in my readings. I believe Desp is working an equally shitty schedule.I have the next two days, and fiancé permitting, I should be able to provide some commentary on what's been happening. Unless we just lynch Domo first that is. Which could happen cause that guy is totes scum.