Mini 1547 - Wicked Mafia (Game Over!)

[chamber]

You had the post fully written pregame? Or just the idea of it?

[Mina]

My sister and I actually found the first workout to be a piece of cake. Get in shape! Also, I'm not interested in continuing this back-and-forth unless it really helps on your end.

p-edit: The idea.

[Malakittens]

mollie has not posted in this game yet but when she does none of you will get off easy. bazinga!!!

#YOLO

Bert, please stop the stupid games and say if you've believed anything you've argued this game, or it was all just an attempt to look like mollie.

Hanzoooooo, where are you?

I think it was genuinely Mollie, but I'm now questioning it also. I can sometimes be right or wrong on reading her in forum mafia and this post by Bert makes me question whatever I had been feeling on the slot in general.

I did however really like your post 46 it gave me the warm and fuzzies and kinda mirror what I'm thinking, but some points I do disagree with (Medea/bert&mollie).

UNVOTE: Mina

@Preedit:

Chamber.

[chamber]

Well, I'm fine with stopping, but my votes staying where it is then.

[chamber]

and she strikes me as someone who'd be nervous and lurky as scum

Why do you think this?

[Medea the Alien]

I vaguely like that Hanzo_5 basically made two RVS votes. Not sure why mollie's atypically ceding D1 hydra control to Bert, and hydra head impersonation shenanigans don't help.

And then NK me so that I'm in fewer games.

Don't love this. Nothing I can put my finger on. Cabd's probably going to have a better handle on him for now though.

Mina, null or scum on Osseus?

Mala's about as town as I've ever seen her.

--PA

[Mina]

chamber:

I don't know, maybe I'm projecting by thinking people are naturally less outgoing as scum. Mala just doesn't strike me as a particularly confident or vocal player in general. She was much less talkative in

Anything Goes

(she was town there). That's why I asked you if this was true. See, now is where you tell me if this

isn't

true.

No one wants to read two people who know each other hyper-focus and drown the thread in pages and pages of nitpicky paranoid back-and-forths (speaking as someone who's prone to those). I wanted to hear your thought process for your vote, but I don't particularly suspect you right now, and your alignment will be obvious soon if I'm wrong. So I feel like this is a waste of time unless you have questions it'd help if I answered.

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Medea:

Mina, null or scum on Osseus?

Probably more likely to be scum than random chance because it's a jokey vote-and-run on an absent poster with no comment on anything that happened on that page, but it's too early to tell. Now, why are you asking? How much did you expect me to read into that post? Also, please answer this:

Medea, where did your confidence on bazinga-town come from?

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Malakittens:

1) What do you disagree on re: Medea and bazinga? I don't think I ever committed to a read on bazinga (it's pending on how they answer some questions).

2) Please elaborate:

I think it was genuinely Mollie, but I'm now questioning it also. I can sometimes be right or wrong on reading her in forum mafia and this post by Bert makes me question whatever I had been feeling on the slot in general.

This whole thing is really vague and hedging. What had you "been feeling on the slot" before Bert's post? Also, "I can sometimes be right or wrong on reading her" is completely meaningless.

3) You're adorable. Just thought you should know. <3

[Mina]

...I just walled on page three.

Please don't kill me.

[Ampersand]

Vote: Mina

For future reference, all of our posts will be made jointly, which does mean we won't be posting during working hours.

[chamber]

See, now is where you tell me if this isn't true.

I have no idea? It seems like its likely true.

[chamber]

No one wants to read two people who know each other hyper-focus and drown the thread in pages and pages of nitpicky paranoid back-and-forths

This is basically my play style? Also me knowing you hasn't had much effect on how I'm reading you here? Its not like what I'm saying can't be followed by the others.

[chamber]

...um...why did you single out bazinga of all the hydras in the game (ninja'd by Mala)?

This question is really quite bad in retrospect, but, it could have just been an issue of focus. Also, not really a ninja of Mala.

[Tammy]

Vote Count 1.1

Mina (2) - Chamber, Ampersand
Medea the Alien (2) - Zdenek, Mina
Malakittens (1) - notscience,
bazinga (1) - hanzo_5
Toastytoast (1) - Osseus pseudotripodis

Not Voting (6):

Bazinga, Broseidon, Ghatokaca, malakittens, Medea the Alien, ToastyToast,

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in Two Weeks: (expired on 2014-02-19 00:55:05)

[Osseus pseudotripodis]

Don't like Toasty right now, look at all those scummy posts

Unvote

Anyway...

I vaguely like that Hanzo_5 basically made two RVS votes. SNIP

What? Why?

SNIP

I almost voted Hanzo (

the hydra vote was abysmal and safe

, and I don't like how he disappeared when he did), but I'm giving a temporary

newbie

never-heard-of-him pass that will last until page four. Everyone else who's posted aside from notscience and Osseus looks townish (ask and I'll explain why--kind of wavering on bazinga).

What makes the hydra vote "safe"? He gave a serious sounding reason for his vote, and a bad one at that. That stance on hydrae, especially if it continues is going to draw attention.

Vote: Mina

For future reference, all of our posts will be made jointly, which does mean we won't be posting during working hours.

Man do I dislike votes without reasons. Talk to me. Is this your serious vote or your 'RVS'?

On a related note, I do recall Mina saying something on skype chat I believe about faking a guilty on herself, well before this game went into sign-ups (like last month) so I think her plan to do so is independent of this game.

[BROseidon]

26 by Mala and the tailend of 27 about "why hydra x" is bad and should feel bad.

/confirm exactly 1,531 mason points with Bro

Obligatory fakeclaiming masons with Cabd. Too bad kuribo/DGB aren't in the game.

Rest of Mina interactions read okay.

Chamber's probably town.

VOTE: EVIL KITTIES

[Hanzo_5]

Hanzoooooo, where are you?

@Mina, Around.

[Hanzo_5], why did you single out bazinga of all the hydras in the game (ninja'd by Mala)? Also, have you missed that there's role information confirming someone's guilt? Are you just not reading the game at all or something?

@Mina, Bazinga had posted more than Osseus pseudotripodis at the time, thus my attention shifted to that hydra.

This game had a daystart. Assuming investigative roles do not have day powers, logic dictates your guilty on yourself is nothing more than a rvs vote.

Why are you so insistent on getting a reaction, specifically, from me, based on post 12?

[Hanzo_5] gave a serious sounding reason for his vote, and a bad one at that.

@Osseus pseudotripodis, Why is this reason bad?

[Hanzo_5's post 25] is really, really stupid.

You do realize there's more than one hydra playing, right?

@Malakittens, why is post 25 stupid?

Yes I realize there is more than one hydra playing.

[ToastyToast]

Hi all! I unfortunately cannot post anything of significance until tonight, but I thought I would give you all a heads up in case you were waiting for more people to post things.

I will say that I think Mina/Chamber posts are just two experienced scum-hunters trying to figure out how the other is playing. Neither of them strike me as particularly scummy because of this--I don't think they as scum would put themselves out there right out of the gate.

[Ampersand]

Man do I dislike votes without reasons. Talk to me. Is this your serious vote or your 'RVS'?

I feel like both yes and no would work as an answer here, really.

I will say that I think Mina/Chamber posts are just two experienced scum-hunters trying to figure out how the other is playing.

This is clearly incorrect.

[bazinga]

Sorry guys, my brain was fried last night and I was messing around.

I think it was genuinely Mollie, but I'm now questioning it also.

Those post were precisely what I would say if I were impersonating Mollie, and I just wanted to have a little fun at the beginning. Regrettably, it is true Mollie has not posted in this game yet.

Mala just doesn't strike me as a particularly confident or vocal player in general.

From past games, I know that she can be rather confident if she thinks she's right.

Can you explain why you aren't voting this confscum?

It was my signal that I knew he/she was joking about the investigation results. Instead of pointing out how there was no N0 and that scum don't scumclaim like that, I played along and waited to see how people would dismiss his/her case on his/herself.

I'd made a joke that everyone would fake guilties on me and quicklynch me in RVS the next time I played Mafia--also, I figured it'd get interesting reactions.

It's cool that you picked RVS when tensions aren't high yet.

I almost voted Hanzo (the hydra vote was abysmal and safe, and I don't like how he disappeared when he did)

Calling someone out for disappearing within hours of gamestart isn't a promising argument...

[notscience]

/me sits here and waits for nachomollie to sort each other

[Ghatokaca]

Penguin, what about Mala seems town to you?

Malakittens, why do you refer to yourself as "lynchbait?" I got the opposite impression from your play in the only game we played together.

So far, I am getting townvibes from Mina. I don't think the gambit makes her town or scum, but I feel that her posts and analysis since then are advancing the gamestate, and the way she is giving out reads and questioning players feels genuine.

I dislike ToastyToast's 66. Toasty, if they are experienced players, would they not be comfortable putting themselves out there as scum?

~ F-16

[bazinga]

She also ninja'd me toward a couple of questions I wanted to ask, which is a good sign.

What questions? I don't think the questions she has asked are really provoking emotion...but most of all I don't really know where you're going with this meta discussion about Mala. You speak as if you don't know much about her town OR scum past game play...as evidenced by you asking other people how Mala has played scum/town in the past.

Spoiler:

Can you explain why you aren't voting this confscum?

You do realize there's more than one hydra playing, right?

But why so sad?

Did you laugh when you looked at your role PM?

Hanzoooooo, where are you?

I've noticed that you pay really close attention to when people disappear for a few hours. Is this how you keep other players engaged? What purpose do these call-outs serve?

[notscience]

Hi Bert!

[bazinga]

...I just walled on page three.

Please don't kill me.

Your walls are so Wall-E!

For future reference, all of our posts will be made jointly, which does mean we won't be posting during working hours.

Ooh, a very cold tone in this post, huh?

I'm sure that reference would be funny if I knew anything about bert.

I don't know anything about you other than that you kickstarted Marathon Weekend in December by unlocking the sub-forum!!! Therefore you are on my good side. <3

Malakittens seems somewhat fluffy, but relaxed and chatty.

Your handling of the back-and-forth situation with Chamber is really odd - trying to inch away from continuing on the convos! I was quite enjoying the 1 on 1 banter! I felt like you two were really cooperating with each other and sorting out reads, so...

P-edit: HI NOTSCIENCE!!

[Mina]

Aaaaah, like five zillion questions to answer. (Liking bazinga a looooooot more now--and Bert, I actually thought you might have been serious about your scumread on me, albeit in a "CLAIMING A GUILTY ON YOURSELF IS ANTITOWN POLICY LYNCH" way. Your explanation looks much better.)

Your handling of the back-and-forth situation with Chamber is really odd - trying to inch away from continuing on the convos! I was quite enjoying the 1 on 1 banter! I felt like you two were really cooperating with each other and sorting out reads, so...

No one wants to read two people who know each other hyper-focus and drown the thread in pages and pages of nitpicky paranoid back-and-forths

This is basically my play style? Also me knowing you hasn't had much effect on how I'm reading you here? Its not like what I'm saying can't be followed by the others.

I was talking about my side, not yours. I'm someone who needs to make an effort to ignore my OCD urges to follow up on everything and say, "Fuck it, he's probably town, so let the thread breathe instead of clogging it." Basically, I got all the mileage I was going to get out of questioning his vote (I still think it's stretchy, but I can buy it comes from town and it's not like there are pressing non-stretchy reasons to vote). And I also felt like I was posting too much, anyway. It's nice at least one person cared, though! ^_^

Also, ToastyToast, I'd TOTALLY put myself out this much as scum.