Mini 1579: The Great Flavor Caper (Game Over)

[phokdapolees]

Vote Count 1.02

Slandaar (2): TheYankeeReaper, Bacde
Elyse (2): reinoe, Wake88
JarJarDrinks (1): Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Sharpest-knife-on-tree (1): chaoslord54
chaoslord54 (1): Mirhawk

Not Voting: Josh_B, Slandaar, evilpacman18, JarJarDrinks, Damon_Gant, Elyse

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline in (expired on 2014-06-25 16:00:00)

[Bacde]

I'll keep it in mind, but it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

So basically, you pressured me for a link for no reason?

No. I pressured you for the existence of the link, not necessarily the content of the link. But the content of the link suggests that you are still a little sour about that game, and possibly trying to use it to invent scuminess when there isn't much to go on. Until, I feel like there's more likelyhood that what you say is true, or I feel like there isn't anything else to go on, I'll be looking else where and consider you on the block if he flips town.

UNVOTE: UNVOTE

How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won

[Josh_B]

I find it curious that you've taken Bacde's D1 vote on Slandarr so seriously.

It was apparent to me that he was fishing for reactions and the initial argument on Slandarr wouldn't make it past 2-3 pages. Your last sentence also bothers me "...and consider you on the block if he flips town." It seems to me you're giving yourself convenient options for a vote down the line if a Slandarr lynch were to occur.

RVS is a serious thing, I admire the skill of other players who use it as a scum hunting tool. My initial PoE is that Bacde was using it to OMGUS and then asking that I totally trust him. The only thing I feel like I can be sure of right now is that Bacde is not on the scum team with Slandar.
The meta that Bacde provided seems legit if it wasn't so old and out of date, but I'm going to be looking for partners so I moved my vote off for now.

[Slandaar]

it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

What is this?

[Josh_B]

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How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won[/quote]

Then why would you bring it up?

VOTE: bacde

[TheYankeeReaper]

I find it curious that you've taken Bacde's D1 vote on Slandarr so seriously.

It was apparent to me that he was fishing for reactions and the initial argument on Slandarr wouldn't make it past 2-3 pages. Your last sentence also bothers me "...and consider you on the block if he flips town." It seems to me you're giving yourself convenient options for a vote down the line if a Slandarr lynch were to occur.

RVS is a serious thing, I admire the skill of other players who use it as a scum hunting tool. My initial PoE is that Bacde was using it to OMGUS and then asking that I totally trust him. The only thing I feel like I can be sure of right now is that Bacde is not on the scum team with Slandar.
The meta that Bacde provided seems legit if it wasn't so old and out of date, but I'm going to be looking for partners so I moved my vote off for now.

I'm not trying to argue that RVS means nothing in the scheme of a mafia game, but it was clear that his vote and reasoning was made to get reactions and not a serious ploy to bandwagon Slandarr all the way to a D1 lynch, something you've failed to realize especially with your next post:

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How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won

Then why would you bring it up?

VOTE: bacde

Do you honestly think that he was trying to use a year old post to catch scum on the very first page?

[Elyse]

Just posting to say I'm here. Will read up later.

[Bacde]

vote josh_b

Lol

Too easy

[Bacde]

Damn I think RVS is slowly coming to an end. Time to put on my thinking cap.

RVS analysis: Useless or useful?

Personally I think it's useless and I've heard of people using it to find scum, but I've only ever seen it used once after two lynches, and that person admitted that they would have been wrong on things.

So are you actually going to get into the game or just keep sidelining?

[evilpacman18]

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

vote: Josh_B

[Mirhawk]

it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

What is this?

I would also like an explanation of this. It looks like you were expecting bacde to continue the push and provide the reasons for you.

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

hmmmm TYR with an outstanding post...

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

RVS a serious thing, seriously...

vote JoshB-

add on TYR's outstanding post and this is no brainer.

[chaoslord54]

For now I'm retracting my random lynch vote

Unvote:Sharpest-knife-on-tree

[chaoslord54]

TYR I think you bring up some great points, before I cast my vote though I want to hear Josh_B's defense.

[Mirhawk]

@Knife
What about Yankees post makes "outstanding"? It's a good point but I'm not seeing as how anything in it is indicative of anything other then JB not thinking before he posts.

You're obviously getting a hard scum vibe from it, mind explaining why YOU think JB's scum or are you just trying to float with the current town attitude.

[Bacde]

Psst mirhawk let the scum bus each other

[Sharpest-knife-on-tree]

Mir, just my opinion. It recognizes that state of play and calls out someone for it in an appropriate way.
And it was JB's RVS is serious stuff that drew my vote. HTH, Thanks for caring

[Mirhawk]

Right

[Bacde]

Left

[reinoe]

Damn I think RVS is slowly coming to an end. Time to put on my thinking cap.

RVS analysis: Useless or useful?

Personally I think it's useless and I've heard of people using it to find scum, but I've only ever seen it used once after two lynches, and that person admitted that they would have been wrong on things.

So are you actually going to get into the game or just keep sidelining?

This one line post is actually full of information.

Bacde: I ask questions to gather information. The question I asked is about how seriously people take the analysis of RVS. This question is obviously relevant to the issue at hand. I expressed my opinion on RVS. I also invited anyone else to express their opinion on the question.

But there's your reaction to the question too...Not only did you brush off the question, you then proceeded to imply that the question and my participation was irrelevant. Not answering the question also provides information.

VOTE: Bacde

[Elyse]

yay I can town read Slandaar for once

That's a bit hasty.

Either Mirhawk and Jake B are no fun town or scum looking for any reason to portray someone else as scum. Voting Bacde for "strongarming" the town is dumb.

And Chaoslord segways into manipulation in post two.

Unvote

Vote: Chaoslord

@Bacde - You mistake my intent. Whats really important here is that everyone understands they should listen to me instead of you.

Never mind I like this guy ^^ (and his vote)

But Josh B seems like no fun town, but still town nonetheless.

Random.org says VOTE: Elyse.

Let's see what happens.

Really? Nothing else you want to comment on?

And Chaoslord segways into manipulation in post two.

It was not my intent to manipulate. I just feel that he makes a good argument on why we should vote Slandeer but would like a little more evidence before I chose to vote on his side. If I came off manipulative then that was not was I intended at all

Lol i think you are taking page one a little too seriously

I probably am. Sorry this is my first game so I may have taken it a little too seriously as you mentioned

These posts are too apologetic which seems like newbscum to me. I think newbtown would be a little more adamant about his own position.

And as Bacde says below, it wasn't a good argument. And Bacde then provided the link, so if you thought it was a good argument, why aren't you voting for Slandaar?:

Lol good argument?

It was a weak argument at best, and imho it was a nonargument

Its silly anyone even cared about the link, because as i expected, it did not affect anything in this game

I'll keep it in mind, but it wasn't his RVS that gave him away. There are some other patterns there too that are interesting.

So basically, you pressured me for a link for no reason?

No. I pressured you for the existence of the link, not necessarily the content of the link. But the content of the link suggests that you are still a little sour about that game, and possibly trying to use it to invent scuminess when there isn't much to go on. Until, I feel like there's more likelyhood that what you say is true, or I feel like there isn't anything else to go on, I'll be looking else where and consider you on the block if he flips town.

UNVOTE: UNVOTE

I find it curious that you've taken Bacde's D1 vote on Slandarr so seriously.

It was apparent to me that he was fishing for reactions and the initial argument on Slandarr wouldn't make it past 2-3 pages. Your last sentence also bothers me "...and consider you on the block if he flips town." It seems to me you're giving yourself convenient options for a vote down the line if a Slandarr lynch were to occur.

I think I agree with this post.

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How would i be sour about that game? It was over a year ago and town won

Then why would you bring it up?

VOTE: bacde[/quote]
Why would this make Bacde scum?

RVS a serious thing, seriously...

vote JoshB-

add on TYR's outstanding post and this is no brainer.

Yikes!

This gives me bad vibes and it seems like you are just trying to rush a lynch. I don't think there's such a thing as a "no brainer" on page 3 unless it's a scumclaim.

@Knife
What about Yankees post makes "outstanding"? It's a good point but I'm not seeing as how anything in it is indicative of anything other then JB not thinking before he posts.

You're obviously getting a hard scum vibe from it, mind explaining why YOU think JB's scum or are you just trying to float with the current town attitude.

Really like you.

Not sure if JB is scum or bad town. Will need to see more but I would not be upset with a lynch on him at this point, but obviously we need more time in the day to allow other players (including myself) to post more.

Right now I'll vote for chaoslord because my scumread on him stands alone. I am leaning scum on knife too but my read will be influenced by JB's flip so I'd rather lynch JB over knife.

VOTE: chaoslord

P-edit:
@reinoe

Instead of getting pissy at bacde for calling you out on sidelining, would like to comment on Josh B or knife?

[reinoe]

P-edit:
@reinoe

Instead of getting pissy at bacde for calling you out on sidelining, would like to comment on Josh B or knife?

It's not sidelining if people are discussing the merits of RVS and the analysis thereof.

Josh B? His posts aren't great and it looks like sloppy scumhunting. At least he's making an effort.

Sharpest? His vote is only the third on josh so it's no big deal.

Unrelated: I like Mirhawks thought process so we're on the same page there. It considers several possibilities instead of just of just locking into conclusions. With that being said.

[chaoslord54]

@Elyse

I think that me being apologetic is not being scummy. It's just that since this is my first game I feel a little guilty because I feel like I was being influenced a little too quickly at the beginning of the game and posting too quick before thinking out my posts and I just don't want to annoy people so I'm trying to think it out a little more before I comment. That's why I also mentioned that for now I want to hear more comments before I take a vote.

[Bacde]

Chaoslord is pretty clearly town

Id recommend voting josh_b