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[Espressojet]

VOTE: Espressojet

Hey dude, make sure your votes are in bold

[The Dream Weaver]

Official Vote Count

Albert B. Rampage

(0):

Anatole Kuragin

(L-6): bjc

bjc

(L-5): Albert B. Rampage, Chaoslord54

chaoslord54

(0):

Clusk92

(L-6): Anatole Kuragin

Derivan

(0):

Espressojet

(L-5): Hiraki, Clusk92

Havingfitz

(0):

Hiraki

(L-6): Sharpest-knife-on-tree

Marky Mark

(0):

Prof Fridays

(L-5): Havingfitz, Espressojet

roflcopter

(0):

Sharpest-knife-on-tree

(L-6): Prof Fridays

Not Voting

: Derivan, Marky Mark, roflcopter

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to lynch.
The day ends in

(expired on 2014-08-02 19:00:00)

Votes need to either be in bold tags [/b] or vote tags [/vote] to count.

[chaoslord54]

Don't really like how BJC is just posting short posts that mostly antagonize people and don't really seem to help with pushing further on trying to figure out who's scum. Also, he keeps jumping from post to post on who he's voting and already acts like he's figured out the whole game.

Keeping my vote on him for now until better evidence is revealed to make me think otherwise

[Prof Fridays]

It's just something that bothers me here, it's not specific to this thread. Things happen in life, my emotions change, and my mood with it. People keep getting on my case for change of tone and whatnot. It almost got me Iynched in my first game too.

In other news, Prof. Fridays has done no real scum hunting, so for the time being...
VOTE: Prof. Fridays

Uhhhh, okay.

You're right I should have just indulged in dumb RVS jokes rather than my usual winning strategy of voting the first person who says someone's actions are null - which has a 70% success rate.

Interesting. I've not heard of this (not being sarcastic; I'm just somewhat new to meta/logic here). I'm willing to accept it, but you're not exactly convincing me, whether through argument or play-style.

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

You can say that, but from my experience this is indicative of bjc-town, so I'm not going to support this wagon.

[chaoslord54]

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

You can say that, but from my experience this is indicative of bjc-town, so I'm not going to support this wagon.[/quote]

Do you have a link to a past game proving this? If you do then I can be willing to back off on my attack on him for now

[Prof Fridays]

Nope. It's ongoing, so I don't think I can talk about it. But, it'll be over soon enough.

[Hiraki]

I'm willing to accept it, but you're not exactly convincing me, whether through argument or play-style.

Lynching Espresso has a 100% win rate of winning.

Believe me, please. Don't care if I haven't convinced you, honestly.

[bjc]

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

You can say that, but from my experience this is indicative of bjc-town, so I'm not going to support this wagon.

Do you have a link to a past game proving this? If you do then I can be willing to back off on my attack on him for now[/quote]
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=57073

Now sheep me for the rest of the game? Thx

[bjc]

Also I had both scum members on page four... And then proceeded to lose the game.

Impressive.

[chaoslord54]

Okay that's good enough evidence for me for now to back off

Unvote BJC

[Espressojet]

SKoT still hasn't posted since the start of the game

[Marky Mark]

To go from this

Don't really like how BJC is just posting short posts that mostly antagonize people and don't really seem to help with pushing further on trying to figure out who's scum. Also, he keeps jumping from post to post on who he's voting and already acts like he's figured out the whole game.

Keeping my vote on him for now until better evidence is revealed to make me think otherwise

to this

Okay that's good enough evidence for me for now to back off

Unvote BJC

So quickly seems very wishy washy to me, and the fact that you changed your vote over something as weak as the outcome of a prior game is looking to me like scum trying to start a wagon, finding no support and then trying to find a convenient way to back off.

Vote: Chaoslord

[Anatole Kuragin]

It's just something that bothers me here, it's not specific to this thread. Things happen in life, my emotions change, and my mood with it. People keep getting on my case for change of tone and whatnot. It almost got me Iynched in my first game too.

In other news, Prof. Fridays has done no real scum hunting, so for the time being...
VOTE: Prof. Fridays

Uhhhh, okay.

You're right I should have just indulged in dumb RVS jokes rather than my usual winning strategy of voting the first person who says someone's actions are null - which has a 70% success rate.

Interesting. I've not heard of this (not being sarcastic; I'm just somewhat new to meta/logic here). I'm willing to accept it, but you're not exactly convincing me, whether through argument or play-style.

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

You can say that, but from my experience this is indicative of bjc-town, so I'm not going to support this wagon.

I was bullshitting about the percentage, but it's a theory I'm working on. I've found that scum are a lot more likely to call actions null because it a) makes them sound confident because it's better than "I don't have a read" but they can still middle.

[Anatole Kuragin]

BJC is pushy as town, but I'm guessing if enough people say "BJC is pushy as town" he'd probably start acting that way as scum as well. I've never seen him as scum so I can't say for sure.

[bjc]

I get lynched day one or two as scum. Lol

[bjc]

Its spectacular b

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm still OK with my bjc vote.

[roflcopter]

requesting replacement

sorry y'all

[chaoslord54]

To go from this

Don't really like how BJC is just posting short posts that mostly antagonize people and don't really seem to help with pushing further on trying to figure out who's scum. Also, he keeps jumping from post to post on who he's voting and already acts like he's figured out the whole game.

Keeping my vote on him for now until better evidence is revealed to make me think otherwise

to this

Okay that's good enough evidence for me for now to back off

Unvote BJC

So quickly seems very wishy washy to me, and the fact that you changed your vote over something as weak as the outcome of a prior game is looking to me like scum trying to start a wagon, finding no support and then trying to find a convenient way to back off.

Vote: Chaoslord

Its not a weak argument for me because if you notice clearly I asked for evidence that his manner of playing was shown before to be towny or not. He showed that evidence so I'm backing off of it for now so I can focus on trying to find people who are coming off more scummy. I'm not fully abandoning my thoughts, it just seems pointless to run him up if there's better evidence against others for now.

[chaoslord54]

This isn't me acting as scum, this is me just trying to be efficient

[Prof Fridays]

Ehhhhh, I think Mark's point still stands in large part.

[Marky Mark]

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

It seems weird that you were so accusatory in your original post, especially since your justification was based on attitude, before you had actually meta'd the player. Why accuse someone of doing something and then a significant while later ask if that is usual behaviour for that person? Usually you look for evidence before coming to a conclusion, but you seem to have posted an argument and then "asked for evidence" to see if it was justified afterwards.

Albert, you appear to be lurking in plain sight as nothing in your three posts contains a shred of analysis or useful information. Would like to hear more from you please.

[chaoslord54]

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

It seems weird that you were so accusatory in your original post, especially since your justification was based on attitude, before you had actually meta'd the player. Why accuse someone of doing something and then a significant while later ask if that is usual behaviour for that person? Usually you look for evidence before coming to a conclusion, but you seem to have posted an argument and then "asked for evidence" to see if it was justified afterwards.

That was a flaw on my part since I'm still a little new to this. I felt strong at first on my thoughts against BJC but then doubted my certainty especially as better evidence was starting to be presented against EspressoJet so that's why I then tried to see if anyone had evidence that could support or help me to willing to back off just because I started to feel less certain.

[Anatole Kuragin]

I generally abhor meta but bjc is the only person here I've finished a game with, and I'm 90% sure he is town. Also holy shit dude you get mislynched a lot on day one/two.

[Anatole Kuragin]

Going to give a few points to the roflcopter slot as well for replacing out.