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↑ MattP wrote:Ftr on that note farside I think myko is actually scum

Mmmmmmaybe. Not enough to jump yet, as you can see Anatole had my attention currently.

↑ farside22 wrote:Anatole: ki explained here his reasoning do you think he sai this

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:Your vote was opportunistic because you tried to back it up with (poor) reasoning. His vote seemed random, blatantly without justification. It's scum motivation vs. WIFOM, I pick the former as more likely to be scum. My question could gain insight into the wagon to better understand his post (if it was to be answered), so I can therefore see if I'm missing something about it that makes it scummier.

Then said the second vote wasn't scummy is a scum tell?

Sorry, I don't really understand what you're asking here.

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:

↑ mykonian wrote:

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:and I don't think you're town bruh

vote kigi

I had already voted him at that point. Using that post to justify your vote there isn't convincing.

if the whole post was shit, I'd have quoted the whole post.

It's that part of the sentence.

↑ farside22 wrote:

↑ mykonian wrote:

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:and I don't think you're town bruh

vote kigi

This vote is terrible.


Anatole: what's your take on rvs this far?

not that terrible. Pretty decent.

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ki-Gi, do you think it's likely that scum would drop a second-vote-on-wagon vote without explanation like that?

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:I don't think it's likely, no. Which is why I especially don't like Flubber's wagon.

You said you don't think it's likely that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation, which is what Matt did.

I just explained the distinction though. With Matt, being the second vote on the wagon against Flubber wouldn't be a towntell because as far as I know that was a completely random wagon. With Flubber's second vote on a wagon on the other hand, it's WIFOM, as I said before. I misspoke in saying that I would agree that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation in all cases. Some cases yes, but not all cases.

p-edit: So you're seriously trying to justify a vote off of me saying "bruh"?

very simply put, people don't talk that way. And if they do, they don't post that way. That wordchoice is concious.

In the post I quoted from ki, no where does he mention Matt's position on the wagon.

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Ki-Gi, do you think it's likely that scum would drop a second-vote-on-wagon vote without explanation like that?

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:I don't think it's likely, no. Which is why I especially don't like Flubber's wagon.

You said you don't think it's likely that scum would drop the second vote on a wagon without explanation, which is what Matt did.

Well here you believe that seems to be an issue and I'm wondering why.

Also I asked for what your view on what was said for the last 2 pages were.

The above is directed to Anatole.

Just because your whole conversation is contingent on a hypothetical that isn't even true, flubbernugget was saying that csarea was trolling about his lack of knowledge, flubber was not calling himself a troll. And flubber brought up that notion on his own whereas I provided no content in my initial vote

Similarly farside provided no content in his initial vote of flubber so I don't at all see the distinction between the two wagons that makes you so staunchly opinionated

↑ mykonian wrote:very simply put, people don't talk that way. And if they do, they don't post that way. That wordchoice is concious.

Wow.

I just don't see how you could extrapolate so much more meaning from my vote on csarea than from farsides vote on flubber (besides the "taking advantage of a noob" card which wasn't even true considering I didn't even push csarea when he responded to my vote) and use that to be so confident I must be scum. It seems ridiculous

a) I know people who say bruh

b) farside, that's why I'm asking questions - to flesh out and contextualize the game so far

VOTE: Anatole

Matt: some of ki's post come off a bit vi. I maybe wrong but typically i see town concerned with quick wagon's more then scum.

*scoff's at myko brah tell*
Myko: how many scum you got with language tells?

I don't currently think ki is scum but it would be nice to also think he was town

farside, how many scum have you got with random, completely unqualified and unexplained votes?

↑ MattP wrote:I just don't see how you could extrapolate so much more meaning from my vote on csarea than from farsides vote on flubber (besides the "taking advantage of a noob" card which wasn't even true considering I didn't even push csarea when he responded to my vote) and use that to be so confident I must be scum. It seems ridiculous

But I'm not confident you're scum, and said as much. We're three pages in. I don't understand the wagon on Flubber so I can't extrapolate anything from that. Your vote on Csarea seemed opportunistic. Not pushing, which helps, but opportunistic all the same.

In other words, you're not a strong scum read, but you're the strongest scum read.

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:p-edit: So you're seriously trying to justify a vote off of me saying "bruh"?

that and approaching it from the negative side. Could have called him scum in stead of "I don't think you are town" which is just the most weaksauce way to put it. Then obviously the hilarious "bruh" and what's left is a post that does nothing.

↑ farside22 wrote:Myko: how many scum you got with language tells?

I don't keep count. I'm wrong more often than I'm right, I'll give you that, but it does improve for newer players. Older ones tend to post less conciously as scum and things that ping for me tend to be habits in stead of scumtells.

Regardless, it does ping for me and there are worse things to build a case from. That post does not sound sincere to me, which I try to explain. I could have left it as "this post is insincere", but that's boring. Also leaves little to no room for discussion.

You remember your original vote for me had no comments from you right? We had to get those comments out of you. You responded to 53 just now to elaborate when you had a response before that after 53 was posted, so you're starting to realize how weak your argument is yet you're trying to make it look like you're still confident in it.

Which alignment does that? I don't think you're town bruh

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:farside, how many scum have you got with random, completely unqualified and unexplained votes?

My vote is not random or a shock I would say.

But please keep asking pointless questions that give you no alignment info.

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:We had to get those comments out of you.

yes, that's the best thing about an unreasoned vote.

All we got from you is "wow" in that time. Oh, and now this post, obviously, where apparently it dawns only now on me that I'm using a language based tell to accuse you.

So. "wow, I've been really caught on that" or "wow, I rarely don't post such sentences bruh"?

↑ farside22 wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:farside, how many scum have you got with random, completely unqualified and unexplained votes?

My vote is not random or a shock I would say.

But please keep asking pointless questions that give you no alignment info.

It's not pointless - you still haven't explained why you are voting for me. Why are you trying to avoid explaining the vote?

↑ mykonian wrote:

↑ Ki-Gi wrote:We had to get those comments out of you.

yes, that's the best thing about an unreasoned vote.

All we got from you is "wow" in that time. Oh, and now this post, obviously, where apparently it dawns only now on me that I'm using a language based tell to accuse you.

So. "wow, I've been really caught on that" or

"wow, I rarely don't post such sentences bruh"?

↑ MattP wrote:

↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Well technically it is self-evident that anything someone does is a thing to do because it was an action performed.

Ok, but I think this is especially appropriate sass on my part given that you're asking me about the second post of a game

I'm decidedly losing you here. Both of you. No clue where you are going with this.

↑ MattP wrote:I don't currently think ki is scum but it would be nice to also think he was town

Fair enough.

I'll get all the pointless questions from Anatole quotes when I get home.

Or people can ISO. Net is the same.

@myk

So your vote was intentionally vague, and then more explained, and then more explained still. And this was your intention, to get reactions. I see. I'm inclined to believe you but damn that is some weak logic.