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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:33 pm

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SilverWolf wrote:
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vonflare wrote::(

I really wanted to be a cult leader.

:(


You'll have to settle for being a follower.


Does that mean you are the leader who is going to recruit him?


Of course, you know how obvious I am when I'm scum. :giggle:


Is cult even scum or what? Never played with them before.


They're a scum faction. Like werewolves.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:33 pm

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SilverWolf wrote:
House wrote:
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I really wanted to be a cult leader.

:(


You'll have to settle for being a follower.


Does that mean you are the leader who is going to recruit him?


Of course, you know how obvious I am when I'm scum. :giggle:


Is cult even scum or what? Never played with them before.


They're a scum faction. Like werewolves.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:33 pm

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Doublepost for truth.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 2:52 pm

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House wrote:
They're a scum faction. Like werewolves.


Yeah, but they are kind of like parasites that just try to take over town and get the majority. I don't think they can kill?

*Yeah, I'm off to re-read the game mechanics so I know what to look for*
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:16 pm

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Notes:

Cult: Leader recruits at night. They win if they get the majority of 1 more than all other factions combined. So, I can see this being like multiball and scum wanting them gone as well. Check for any behavior changes next day for alignment switch.

Lyncher: Knows lynchee, lynchee won't know who they are, so look out for someone going after another person kind of hard.

Survivor and Jester: I don't care about them really.

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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:23 pm

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I'm hurt, SilverWolf.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:24 pm

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Drixx wrote:I'm hurt, SilverWolf.


We haven't played together in a game yet have we? I mean I spectated a game you were in. Crap, I'm going to feel bad if we have now.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:39 pm

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Well I'm late to the party as usual, hi! ^^

VOTE: House

Because I'm still bitter about our last game. Also for taking an RVS vote seriously before saying that SW is taking RVS too seriously.

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:41 pm

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Hi Mika, I enjoyed the last game we played together. Hope you are town again this time. :)
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 3:48 pm

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Vote Count 1.02


House(3):
Bins, Marcrell, Mikazuki
Jeanne11(2):
McMenno, SilverWolf
Bins(1):
Drixx
Maruchan(1):
House

Not Voting(6):
vonflare, PeaceBringer, Kaerutsune, Belisarius, Jeanne11, Maruchan

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13
alive, it's
8
to lynch and
7
to no lynch.

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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 4:24 pm

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Hi pookie :P

Of course! The same back at you ^^

How effective have you found RVS analysis to be by the way? I never really paid attention to it.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 5:37 pm

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Mikazuki wrote:Hi pookie :P

Of course! The same back at you ^^

How effective have you found RVS analysis to be by the way? I never really paid attention to it.


It usually doesn't mean much but every once in awhile you might be able to catch something interesting. Mostly it just gets discussion going. It's better than all of us staring at each other I suppose. :wink:
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 5:40 pm

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Can anyone be recruited by Cult Leader-like Mafia, SK, anyone or just townies?

Same with lynchee-it can be anyone or a townie only?

Thanks!!

Mostly wondering because I don't think the lyncher would be a threat to town if the lynchee happens to be scum. Same for cultists really if they can get rid of scum.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 5:46 pm

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SilverWolf wrote:
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Can anyone be recruited by Cult Leader-like Mafia, SK, anyone or just townies?

Same with lynchee-it can be anyone or a townie only?

Thanks!!

Mostly wondering because I don't think the lyncher would be a threat to town if the lynchee happens to be scum. Same for cultists really if they can get rid of scum.

A normal Cult Leader can recruit anyone, no matter who they are. However, if a Weak Cult Leader tries to recruit Mafia or Serial Killer, the Weak Cult Leader will die (everyone else he can recruit, lynchers/survivors/etc. included).

Also note that if cult is the majority of the players then town loses and the cult will win.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 5:56 pm

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OK, So cult is a threat to town. Got it. And lynchee can be any alignment.

OK, So we really want to take out cult and mafia both. To me, it's like those games where there are werewolves who can kill and mafia who share a PT but can't kill. Both are deadly to town.

Lyncher is only a problem to one person. It would suck if that person is town so we can watch for it.

And I totally forgot about the weak modifiers but that makes a difference.

I think I finally got it. :cool:
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:02 pm

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A Lyncher is considered a threat to the town and town cannot win with a Lyncher alive.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:04 pm

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OK, Thanks!!

Something else to look out for then.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:20 pm

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Has anyone sat down and tried to start on setup spec? I've white boarded the possibilities as I see them, but I'm not sure it would be wise to share thoughts openly just yet. Scum obviously are going to have a leg up on figuring the spec out, especially if early flips help them narrow down the role categories which got either very few or a lot of rolls.

Someone already claimed Hated, which can be any of the following:
  • Hated Weak Cult Leader (Weak is a modifier that if they visit mafia they die, so this implies the cult could recruit scum)
  • Hated Townie (Looks like there could only be one of these no matter what)
  • Hated Survivor
  • Hated Serial Killer


P-Edit: The cult, if we have one {Only town and mafia are guaranteed stuff if there are zero rolls in their number range}, if a danger to both town and scum, I think. The cult wins if it can recruit enough people to have half of the people in the game +1 (rounded up I think since it says majority +1). The game setup says that the Lynchee doesn't know who he is and will get a Vanilla town PM.

P-Edit2: I see most of the answers were given already because Flames682 is on top of it!
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:23 pm

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SilverWolf wrote:Notes:

Cult: Leader recruits at night. They win if they get the majority of 1 more than all other factions combined. So, I can see this being like multiball and scum wanting them gone as well. Check for any behavior changes next day for alignment switch.

Lyncher: Knows lynchee, lynchee won't know who they are, so look out for someone going after another person kind of hard.

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Haven't played with anyone else here yet.

you briefly played with my in lottery mafia but you were scum so probably didn't pay close attention and I got disposed fairly early on.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:24 pm

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Mikazuki wrote:Well I'm late to the party as usual, hi! ^^

VOTE: House

Because I'm still bitter about our last game. Also for taking an RVS vote seriously before saying that SW is taking RVS too seriously.

Defensive is my middle name by this point :D


Remember what I told you? The scummier I look, the townier I am. The townier I look, the scummier I am.

Are you saying I look scummy? Because if so, you should know your vote is misplaced if you are town.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:26 pm

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you briefly played with my in lottery mafia but you were scum so probably didn't pay close attention and I got disposed fairly early on.


See, I knew I'd forget one or more people if I did that. :wink:

Yes, I remember you. That game was a fun one for scum. :P

Not enough for me to give much of a meta read on you though.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:28 pm

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Drixx wrote:The game setup says that the Lynchee doesn't know who he is and will get a Vanilla town PM.

The Lynchee can be any alignment. If a Lynchee was in this game, I would first randomize the roles, then pick a random person to be the Lynchee, no matter what alignment. I have added this to the game-specific rules in post 3.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:29 pm

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You don't look scummy enough yet for me to read you as town, maybe we'll get to that later ^^

I need to go take a really good look at the mechanics, I've never even heard of half these roles before :eek:
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:31 pm

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Mikazuki wrote:Well I'm late to the party as usual, hi! ^^

VOTE: House

Because I'm still bitter about our last game. Also for taking an RVS vote seriously before saying that SW is taking RVS too seriously.

Defensive is my middle name by this point :D


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Are you saying I look scummy? Because if so, you should know your vote is misplaced if you are town.

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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Wed May 13, 2015 6:33 pm

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Oh and SW just mentioned House tricking her with meta in a previous game so I'll be keeping an eye out for that~
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