Newbie 1717: Newbies Through the Looking Glass (Game Over)

[innocentvillager]

Isn't people already arguing a good thing? And how is what you said scumhunting?

Lol I'm referring to his accusation on me that I am often eccentric and aggressive in my town meta, not this game

[Mizzytastic]

Isn't people already arguing a good thing? And how is what you said scumhunting?

Lol I'm referring to his accusation on me that I am often eccentric and aggressive in my town meta, not this game

He was scumreading you for a lack of your usual style of scumhunting, not because that's your usual style of scumhunting. Also, is this an admission that you haven't been scumhunting yet. If so, why not?

[innocentvillager]

Yeah but it was just so much so fast and sometimes games like this have a lot of noise that makes it annoying to read. It's foreshadowing that this is going to be an extremely long game, which I don't really like.

I'm like goldilocks and the three bitches. Too much activity and I sit back and skim like a bitch, too little activity and I'll fill the thread with bullshit, otherwise it's just right

[Grace]

I'm just laughing with Lycanfire's summary.

[innocentvillager]

Isn't people already arguing a good thing? And how is what you said scumhunting?

Lol I'm referring to his accusation on me that I am often eccentric and aggressive in my town meta, not this game

He was scumreading you for a lack of your usual style of scumhunting, not because that's your usual style of scumhunting. Also, is this an admission that you haven't been scumhunting yet. If so, why not?

You're right I haven't been scum hunting. I'm still cooling off from last game and on vacation so I don't feel like scum hunting atm

[Meepo]

8 - @Meepo, why the random vote on me, as opposed to anyone else? And if it's not a serious vote, why give a serious sounding reason for it? I personally like RVS wagons, it's one of the efficient ways to get out of it.

11 - @Grace, I was going after innocentvillager. I never implied Meepo was culpable for anything.

12 - @Accountant, why didn't you pick up on the above?

13 - You gave up the acting smart act quick. Generally i find people trying to look smart don't back down so easily. Sounds fake

16 - @Grace, is Meepo town?

18 - @Grace, seems to me more like you want us to think you aren't clever - or at least you've mentioned that more? Why?

20 - I read this as Accountant being intentionally overblown for reaction but thinking there was something potentially scummy there. The aim of silly voting is to get out of silly voting and into serious discussion.

21 - @Grace, Apart from missing that I never accussed Meepo of anything, Accountant seems calm and rational. What did you hope to gain from a made up case?

25 - @Grace, Is Accountant worried or agressive? These don't seem to naturally go hand in hand for me. And why should you have voted for someone who wouldn't have taken it seriously, what benefit does that have for town?

27 - @innocentvillager, Deadly. You have a problem with how the day has progressed so far?

28 - Sometimes it doesn't get serious this quick, but the quicker it does the better it is for town. To me wanting to move into serious stuff is a good thing. And attacking serious sounding made up cases is a good thing.

29 - @Meepo, you nervous if they aren't?


Don't like innocentvillager's post coming from an SE. Even if it's not his style of play I'd expect an SE to be aware this what start of day can look like. Not sure if Grace looks more like newbscum or newbtown, but she hasn't handled pressure well so I'm not that worried about sorting her in time. Main thing I don't like is someone who was supposedly starting this game trying to look clever keeps falling back on not being clever or on being new - that behaviour seems contradictory to me. Biggest thing making me think newbtown is a possibility is that I think newbscum is less likely to go for the IC, and scum in general is unlikely to admit they made everything up - though the latter is tempered by the fact she is using being new as a defence. Meepo is nullish - I would like to see more from him. Accountant looks like town scumhunting, with the caveat I'd be surprised if the IC looked like anything else this early in the game. Still, happy to go with Accountant as town for now until something questionable presents itself.

I think I will leave my vote where it is until we see more from innocentvillager, though I don't feel opposed to voting Grace. If this is what we get with some questioning and one vote, I'd love to see what happens with more.

VOTE: innocentvillager

I'm reading him as manipulating the pace of the game. At first Meepo made an "are you serious"-post to scoff at the tension. It was clarified twice that people weren't being serious, but Meepo still questioned other peoples motives. Grace admitted again to being loose with her vote. Then IV made a weak post steering discussion in the direction that would make Grace/Accountant/Meepo clash rather than look at someone personally or allow others the opportunity to look at anyone other than those 3. Town IV normally eccentric and aggressive from what I've read in other games (even to the Town's detriment). I'm not seeing any of this right now. Mizzy made a similar post, the third to do so.

Why not Meepo and Mizzy? Not Meepo because he is responding to pressure. That's just the way he chose to respond, and I don't disagree with the response on its own. IV had no meat in his post and I am hungry. Mizzy offered a lot more and seems more in character than IV is.

(RVS with jokes)
Meepo: Are we serious
Grace: no
Accountant: no
Meepo: Sounds pretty serious (the equivalent of "are you sure?")
Accountant: post using this theme to annoy Grace with
Grace: I don't care if it wasn't serious

at this point, it was stated nobody was all that serious 3 times and meepo questioned it twice already

IV: are you guys serious?
Grace: (directed to Accountant) I don't like serious people being serious when we're not being serious
Meepo: (still confused)
Mizzy: Questioning people being serious, making a lot of questions in general
Grace: somehow thinks people are serious now
Meepo: (directed to Mizzy) post about post8 being the joke it obviously is...
Mizzy: really being thrown off by Meepo at this point but I'm reading her post as town
Meepo: I'm not being serious!
Mizzy: repost of last
Meepo: clarifying saying about the same as before
Grace: it didn't seem serious to me

Do we role-play? In that case as my defense i bring forth a fact that I don`t like tarts.

[Meepo]

Started writing a reply then decided to go for something less serious, somehow quote still appeared.

[Meepo]

8 - @Meepo, why the random vote on me, as opposed to anyone else? And if it's not a serious vote, why give a serious sounding reason for it? I personally like RVS wagons, it's one of the efficient ways to get out of it.

11 - @Grace, I was going after innocentvillager. I never implied Meepo was culpable for anything.

12 - @Accountant, why didn't you pick up on the above?

13 - You gave up the acting smart act quick. Generally i find people trying to look smart don't back down so easily. Sounds fake

16 - @Grace, is Meepo town?

18 - @Grace, seems to me more like you want us to think you aren't clever - or at least you've mentioned that more? Why?

20 - I read this as Accountant being intentionally overblown for reaction but thinking there was something potentially scummy there. The aim of silly voting is to get out of silly voting and into serious discussion.

21 - @Grace, Apart from missing that I never accussed Meepo of anything, Accountant seems calm and rational. What did you hope to gain from a made up case?

25 - @Grace, Is Accountant worried or agressive? These don't seem to naturally go hand in hand for me. And why should you have voted for someone who wouldn't have taken it seriously, what benefit does that have for town?

27 - @innocentvillager, Deadly. You have a problem with how the day has progressed so far?

28 - Sometimes it doesn't get serious this quick, but the quicker it does the better it is for town. To me wanting to move into serious stuff is a good thing. And attacking serious sounding made up cases is a good thing.

29 - @Meepo, you nervous if they aren't?


Don't like innocentvillager's post coming from an SE. Even if it's not his style of play I'd expect an SE to be aware this what start of day can look like. Not sure if Grace looks more like newbscum or newbtown, but she hasn't handled pressure well so I'm not that worried about sorting her in time. Main thing I don't like is someone who was supposedly starting this game trying to look clever keeps falling back on not being clever or on being new - that behaviour seems contradictory to me. Biggest thing making me think newbtown is a possibility is that I think newbscum is less likely to go for the IC, and scum in general is unlikely to admit they made everything up - though the latter is tempered by the fact she is using being new as a defence. Meepo is nullish - I would like to see more from him. Accountant looks like town scumhunting, with the caveat I'd be surprised if the IC looked like anything else this early in the game. Still, happy to go with Accountant as town for now until something questionable presents itself.

I think I will leave my vote where it is until we see more from innocentvillager, though I don't feel opposed to voting Grace. If this is what we get with some questioning and one vote, I'd love to see what happens with more.

VOTE: innocentvillager

I'm reading him as manipulating the pace of the game. At first Meepo made an "are you serious"-post to scoff at the tension. It was clarified twice that people weren't being serious, but Meepo still questioned other peoples motives. Grace admitted again to being loose with her vote. Then IV made a weak post steering discussion in the direction that would make Grace/Accountant/Meepo clash rather than look at someone personally or allow others the opportunity to look at anyone other than those 3. Town IV normally eccentric and aggressive from what I've read in other games (even to the Town's detriment). I'm not seeing any of this right now. Mizzy made a similar post, the third to do so.

Why not Meepo and Mizzy? Not Meepo because he is responding to pressure. That's just the way he chose to respond, and I don't disagree with the response on its own. IV had no meat in his post and I am hungry. Mizzy offered a lot more and seems more in character than IV is.

(RVS with jokes)
Meepo: Are we serious
Grace: no
Accountant: no
Meepo: Sounds pretty serious (the equivalent of "are you sure?")
Accountant: post using this theme to annoy Grace with
Grace: I don't care if it wasn't serious

at this point, it was stated nobody was all that serious 3 times and meepo questioned it twice already

IV: are you guys serious?
Grace: (directed to Accountant) I don't like serious people being serious when we're not being serious
Meepo: (still confused)
Mizzy: Questioning people being serious, making a lot of questions in general
Grace: somehow thinks people are serious now
Meepo: (directed to Mizzy) post about post8 being the joke it obviously is...
Mizzy: really being thrown off by Meepo at this point but I'm reading her post as town
Meepo: I'm not being serious!
Mizzy: repost of last
Meepo: clarifying saying about the same as before
Grace: it didn't seem serious to me

That`s what I get for using quick reply

[Mizzytastic]

If you don't click the q+ button again (after it has flipped to a q-) it doesn't get rid of the posts you have queued to to be attached to your post.

[Meepo]

Thanks for the tip, didn`t know that.

[Pants98]

VOTE: RC

For never giving the Grendel case.

[Simoyd]

Hello

[Grace]

Hello? That's suspicious.. ¬¬

[Mizzytastic]

VOTE: RC

For never giving the Grendel case.

Is Grendel a nickname for Accountant?

It's a few hours, what do you mean by never giving the case and why is it vote worthy? If you were complaining about not giving the case I could see it, but never seems unfair. It's been a few hours, we should at least wait for Accountant's (Grendel's?) response.

[Pants98]

It's an in-joke.

[Simoyd]

I had to eat my shawarma. It's in my stomach now

[Pants98]

Why are you telling us this?

[Grace]

Maybe he's trying to distract us.

[Simoyd]

If you don't eat shawarma right now I'm voting you

[Simoyd]

still trying to understand the 2nd half of page two and forward... sorry. Right now I don't like grace, but not enough to add a vote.... Still thinking

[Simoyd]

I don't like Lycanfire either.

[Simoyd]

IV is setting up multiple stories to justify his meta difference

[Simoyd]

Mizzy made a similar post, the third to do so.

Why not Meepo and Mizzy? Not Meepo because he is responding to pressure. That's just the way he chose to respond, and I don't disagree with the response on its own. IV had no meat in his post and I am hungry. Mizzy offered a lot more and seems more in character than IV is.

@Lycanfire: I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. Can you clarify? Are you saying three people made posts leading the conversation, then you eliminated two through process of elimination? If not, what was Mizzy the third to do? I've read back in the thread and I'm totally lost. Maybe I'm stoopid

[Simoyd]

I am pretty sure

Deferring your certainty until it matters? Setting the stage for future slips?

[Simoyd]

there's not a whole lot of seriousness other than this. Not sure what else to ask.... I'm liking Grace and Meepo for scum right now... Meepo started it so...

VOTE: Meepo

I'm off to play with my oculus. I'll be back later tonight