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In post 49, Firebringer wrote:I think with that change the game is more balanced.
It has my approval on that I think.

Ill let other reviewers chime in but I think thats good for a multiball.

Approved

EBOP

Thanks!
I'll update the role PM's and post them in a minute!

The only thing I'd question is having the slight inconsistency between the town doctor (blocks ALL kills, meaning their target still lives if all three of vig/mafia kill them) and the 1x Bulletproof (blocks only the first kill, meaning if targeted by the vig and the other mafia the same night they'll still die). However, I this is not something I'd consider a big deal and I'd pass it as-is, though I thought I'd raise awareness of it.

Also, interactions need to be defined: as unlikely as it'd be, what happens if the rolestopper targets the 1x BP while the 1x BP still has their vest, and the 1x BP is nightkilled? Is the vest used up, or does the rolestop trump the bulletproof vest? Same question for the doctor: does the doctor trump the bulletproof, or does the bulletproof get used up and the doctor only apply when needed?

If you can provide an answer for those interactions, I think you should be good.

As rolestopper stops all other actions targeting their target, the nightkill is blocked by that. The bulletproof will not lose it's vest.

A doctor is additional protection. As such, it stops the kill before the vest is needed.

I'll post an action resolution in a few minutes.

NAR (from top to bottom and left to right):

Rolestopper
Doctor, bulletproof
Neighborize
Nightkill + vig (although resolved after everything else)
Pt cop, neapolitan

Final bump (?)

I am pretty sure that follows normal guidelines for NAR....
I thought that vest was always applied first before doc heal?

I don t know. Is there a general consensus for that?

As far as I know, no.

In post 53, inspectorscout wrote:1x White Mafia Goon
1x White Mafia Neapolitan
1x White Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof

1x Black Mafia Goon
1x Black Mafia Neighborizer
1x Black Mafia 1-shot Rolestopper

3x Town Mason (1 masonry)
1x Town Doctor
1x Town 2-shot Vigilante
1x Town PT-Cop
6x Vanilla Townies

This is the final setup right?

Can the black mafia RS use the rolestop on his buddies?

Yes and yes.

Hmm.. Black maf still might have an edge because that's a pretty powerful role, but I suppose it is just one shot.

That's also a shitton of power in the town with those masons, but i guess not compared to the power in the scum teams. I'd say it's probably balanced, but definitely pretty swingy.

Masons are indeed strong, but with 2 kills and only 1 protective, they'll die as soon as they claim, I think.
I could change the rolestopper into a roleblocker (1-shot, of course) but I think it's alightly too weak. Also, 9/10 it will be used as 1-shot bulletproof anyway.

/pass

Thank you!

I'll poke mastina.

My approval was already implicit once you gave your clarifications--that was all I needed to see, and I'm satisfied with your answers. I'll take responsibility for anything missed and say that I, too, am passing it.

mastin do you know what is normally applied first? Doc or Vest?

and can I actually mod this concurrently with a micro with just 1 game experience?

In post 69, Firebringer wrote:mastin do you know what is normally applied first? Doc or Vest?

I can't speak objectively there. My personal bias is to apply the doctor first, but some might disagree. I BELIEVE it's up to the moderator, that the NRG hasn't set in stone a hardfast "this interaction MUST be done in THIS way", so in this case I'm deferring to the judgment of the moderator, inspectorscout.

mastin and FB, we good to go?

Should be!

In post 72, Nexus wrote:mastin and FB, we good to go?

Yeah I'm fine as is.