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9/3/1 as presented is probably scum sided (presuming that you just meant to add a vt). Imo 8/4/1 is not a reasonable setup given site norms for mini normals. Iirc we've never had a four man scum team or five scum overall in a 13p mini normal game.
I may dig to find that, but it's sufficiently far outside balance norms that I'm extremely uncomfortable w it as a concept barring decent evidence that it would actually match up w any kind of precious history. Scum PRs are pretty op, and given extra numbers to boot, I think it's a problematic combo.
I may dig to find that, but it's sufficiently far outside balance norms that I'm extremely uncomfortable w it as a concept barring decent evidence that it would actually match up w any kind of precious history. Scum PRs are pretty op, and given extra numbers to boot, I think it's a problematic combo.
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BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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are you able to easily run through some Night-permutations? it's a hard thing for me to do because I don't have the experience with just "seeing" how all the NAs resolve, but I'm very curious to see at least 3 different permutations and see what happens
at game start it is 38% chance to lynch scum
at game start it is 38% chance to lynch scum
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pushing a wagon through to lynch becomes more sketch and more likely to have town analyze scum on it correctly after a flip, or even if they don't analyze the scum correctly, odds more often will favor them
"well someone was clearly scum on that wagon, maybe even 2" and so they start looking to lynch on the wagon and are simply more likely to get scum because of odds
"well someone was clearly scum on that wagon, maybe even 2" and so they start looking to lynch on the wagon and are simply more likely to get scum because of odds
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yeah, I'm really liking the 8v4v1 permutations I'm seeing and really want to try it that way and totally will give it a "accepted for normalcy but reviewers consider scumsided" sort of announcement
but I am not really convinced it is, actually, I like the balance quite a bit (:
(yeah yeah)
but I am not really convinced it is, actually, I like the balance quite a bit (:
(yeah yeah)
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I am kind of waiting on what the setup is going to be because you are all over the place here a bit Dreal.
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"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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I'm going to veto 8/4/1 immediately.
It's not
Run an 8/4/1 in the mini theme queue. Run something more normal - 9/1/3 or 10/3 or 10/2/1 here, please.
It's not
normal
. There are certain expectations with the Normal Queue, and that goes against them. So unless you're going to run it as open and say "guys this is an 8/4/1", then I'm afraid I won't pass it for balance/normality. Run an 8/4/1 in the mini theme queue. Run something more normal - 9/1/3 or 10/3 or 10/2/1 here, please.
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I'm loving it a bit
TOWN:
2-shot BulletProof JailKeeper
1-shot BulletProof 1-shot Strongman 2-Shot Vigilante
1-shot BulletProof Compulsive BodyGuard
BodyGuard
5VanillaTown
SCUM:
2-shot Strongman 2-shot RoleBlocker - can't strongmanKill + RB on same Night }
1-shot Strongman 1-shot Doctor - can't strongmanKill + doc on same Night } groupscum -
Goon }
1-shot BulletProof 2-shot Strongman Serial Killer
TOWN:
2-shot BulletProof JailKeeper
1-shot BulletProof 1-shot Strongman 2-Shot Vigilante
1-shot BulletProof Compulsive BodyGuard
BodyGuard
5VanillaTown
SCUM:
2-shot Strongman 2-shot RoleBlocker - can't strongmanKill + RB on same Night }
1-shot Strongman 1-shot Doctor - can't strongmanKill + doc on same Night } groupscum -
Goon }
1-shot BulletProof 2-shot Strongman Serial Killer
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might make it 1-shot BP JK instead of 2-shot BP
I really prefer x for all of the things - it's usual for my HS - it varies from mod to mod on there so there is no way to "confirm" really
2x-BulletProof JailKeeper
1x-BulletProof 1x-Strongman 2x-Vigilante
1x-BulletProof Compulsive BodyGuard
2x-Strongman 2x-RoleBlocker
1x-Strongman 1x-Doctor
1x-BulletProof 2x-Strongman Serial Killer
I really prefer x for all of the things - it's usual for my HS - it varies from mod to mod on there so there is no way to "confirm" really
2x-BulletProof JailKeeper
1x-BulletProof 1x-Strongman 2x-Vigilante
1x-BulletProof Compulsive BodyGuard
2x-Strongman 2x-RoleBlocker
1x-Strongman 1x-Doctor
1x-BulletProof 2x-Strongman Serial Killer
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a history of 9/3/1 from 1400 on
Scum do not need ANYTHING like the power you're giving them.
I'm fine with scum having something like (if you want everyone to have something)
2 1-shot roleblockers
1 1-shot doc
(or a 1-shot strongman, a 1-shot rb, and a 1-shot doc if you'd prefer)
and the SK has a 1-shot BP, MAYBE a 1-shot strongman too
then you can take all the BPs off of the town PRs, which is both non-normal and unnecessary given that you'd give scum a huge # of strongman shots anyway, and you're left with
town
jailkeeper
2-shot vig
bodyguard
compulsive bodyguard
5 VT
scum
three 1-shot roles
SK
1-shot BP, maybe a 1-shot strongman too
Spoiler:
Scum do not need ANYTHING like the power you're giving them.
I'm fine with scum having something like (if you want everyone to have something)
2 1-shot roleblockers
1 1-shot doc
(or a 1-shot strongman, a 1-shot rb, and a 1-shot doc if you'd prefer)
and the SK has a 1-shot BP, MAYBE a 1-shot strongman too
then you can take all the BPs off of the town PRs, which is both non-normal and unnecessary given that you'd give scum a huge # of strongman shots anyway, and you're left with
town
jailkeeper
2-shot vig
bodyguard
compulsive bodyguard
5 VT
scum
three 1-shot roles
SK
1-shot BP, maybe a 1-shot strongman too
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Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
Conq: you, sir, are great at being town.
BATMAN: Only jugg was the only one we didn’t scum read at least not me
Quick: There is little to no chance this slot is Power-Wolfing.
SR: I want to give him a day
Life is simply unfair, don't you think?
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"You are the Joker of mafia players" - Oversoul
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
"last time I was scum with Firebringer
his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.
His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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smith, I want all of the WIFOM of the BPs+strongman shots mixed with the RB, JK, Doc stuff
"then you can take all the BPs off of the town PRs, which is both non-normal and unnecessary given that you'd give scum a huge # of strongman shots anyway, and you're left with"
it's non-normal? like it actually doesn't pass the setup anyway because that much isn't allowed in "normal" ? is that what you mean? or it's just not normal (like, I'm not normal)
"then you can take all the BPs off of the town PRs, which is both non-normal and unnecessary given that you'd give scum a huge # of strongman shots anyway, and you're left with"
it's non-normal? like it actually doesn't pass the setup anyway because that much isn't allowed in "normal" ? is that what you mean? or it's just not normal (like, I'm not normal)
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