Newbie 1806 - The Ffery Garden: GAME OVER!

[mhsmith0]

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 1.3

One dwarf Japanese Maple is not enough! I would like one in the bark garden in my back yard, too, at the foot of the little hill that leads up to the back fence. But, I want the color to be a high contrast with the bark ground cover. I think a yellow-orange tree would do the trick. Maybe a little taller than the one above.

WhyMafia

(3): GinsengTea, Fykus, mhsmith0

Ciara24

(2): WhyMafia, King Cankles

GinsengTea

(1): PersephoneSidekick

King Cankles

(1): Ciara24

Not Voting

(2): DoubloonSeven, PestoSwami

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: July 6, Midnight US Eastern Time.

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[WhyMafia]

Wrt RVS, it mainly is a personal preference. Some people are comfortable in it, some aren't. What I found odd was the statement of a read seemingly just based on my doing something, which is essentially a weak reason for a read.

I mean I said it was weak

[fferyllt]

RadiantCowbells replaces DoubloonSeven. Please welcome him!

[RadiantCowbells]

Town.
Hi everyone! This is like uhh.
Game.
I am playing the game though.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why was WhyMafia's train better than mine?

Are you really going to expect me to compare the merits of "I don't like spelling cankles" and "ciara stole first post"? The better question is, why are you sufficiently bothered by picking up a 2nd vote to ask a dumb question like that?

Don't like how Mhsmith is 'retaliating' against this

[RadiantCowbells]

There's not much else to say actually since it seems like it was a reaction test of some sort.

Hey Smith, I have 3 reasonably strong townreads and none of them are you. Who are they and why?

[WhyMafia]

Hello Radiant

[RadiantCowbells]

Hello again!

Also, I have to ask: Why is WhyMafia Mafia?

[WhyMafia]

Hello again!

Also, I have to ask: Why is WhyMafia Mafia?

[Fykus]

Whymafia is always mafia.

P.s sup RC long time no see

[WhyMafia]

Whymafia is always mafia.

P.s sup RC long time no see

You've never completed a game with me

[Fykus]

You always come off as scummy lol. We'll see

[WhyMafia]

I'm bored so I'm going to OMGUS Fykus
VOTE: Fykus

[WhyMafia]

You always come off as scummy lol. We'll see

Exactly. It sucks :/
I don't understand what's wrong with my tone but I always get scum read for it
Although I don't know what gave you that impression this game ..

[mhsmith0]

I always thought that scum hated RVS because its hard for them to "act" RVS'y or something along those lines. You just get more suss by the minute WM. I've got my eyes on you.

You always come off as scummy lol. We'll see

[mhsmith0]

There's not much else to say actually since it seems like it was a reaction test of some sort.

Hey Smith, I have 3 reasonably strong townreads and none of them are you. Who are they and why?

Presuming you haven't town read yourself or a zero content slot, I'd guess you TR Persephone, Ciara, whymafia. I don't have a strong town read on anyone, but I'm guessing you SR me and don't think that was theater w Ciara, you liked Persephone curiosity (even if limited), and you liked whymafia doing stuff.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well I townread the shit out of myself, because I'm town.

[mhsmith0]

Well I townread the shit out of myself, because I'm town.

If that's one of your three then you get a

[PersephoneSidekick]

Okay, it's three in the morning and I can't sleep and I'm bored. I keep feeling like there's nothing to go on or say yet, but it's been 3 days so we need to start making progress soon. So I read through everything again looking for reads. Here's what I got:

Why Mafia: probably town, mostly because of lack of defensiveness. I see mind annoyance instead of actual worry. I realize that's just tone and I haven't compared with previous games. (That seems so daunting tbh.) It's not a very strong read, but it's my only actively positive one so it's worth sharing.

MH: I'm a little bit suspicious of him. He's been super helpful as an IC and given lots of good information but other than the original argument with Ciara, he hasn't actually been

using

the techniques he's been explaining. I almost feel like the slow progress itself implicates him somewhat, though I realize that's an abdication of responsibility on my part.

Ciara depends on how I read MH: If he's town I'm inclined to trust his judgement that her tone is off. If he's scum then I doubt he'd so directly single out his partner for (even negative) attention so soon. So I'm going to say that there's a good chance that one of them is scum, but not both.

Fykus is my biggest scum read. Not just because he's advocating for longer RVS, which is plausible disagreement / confusion. It's the point of view he spoke that opinion from. He didn't say that RVS was good for town or bad for scum, he said that scum "hated RVS" because it was "hard for them" etc. His first thought was about the feelings of scum, which I suppose could be useful if brought around to motives of action, but he kept the focus on feelings. I feel like he was saying "I am frustrated with this RVS as scum." It's not a definite obviously, not from those few words, but I feel like Scum!Fykus is more likely to say that.

I should probably try to guess which of Ciara or MH is his scumbuddy while I'm wildly speculating but it's beyond me at this time of night. Maybe tomorrow if I have time. Anyway, moving on to the rest.

PestoSwami is my last significant read. He's asked a lot of questions about the forum interface and I feel really mean for judging that but it's just that he's done nothing else, and if he has time for technical questions he has time for substantive questions too surely? I mean we all need to contribute more, myself included and there are people who have contributed basically nothing. But he's taking the trouble to write a lot of posts but still nothing. So mildly scummy.

Radiant Cowbells I have no idea. I read a couple other games with him in them so I know that he basically always sounds and plays like that. I need way more substantive decisions because I get anything from him. Ginseng and Cankles give me nothing and that's everybody.

Okay this didn't amount to much but it's something. It's certainly more than the random vote I had on Ginseng before so VOTE: Fykus is probably the best place to put my vote for now. This post is probably a sleep deprived mess that I will be embarrassed of in the morning, so feel free to ask clarifying questions or whatever. I'd love to hear people's input, especially the more experienced people. There are a lot of you so you can't

all

be mafia.

[WhyMafia]

I basically have the same reads as you. Just be careful of your Ciara read. It could be the classic "This is something scum wouldn't do, so let's do it!"

[Ciara24]

Hello RadiantCowbells!!

Very quick post here, I'll be back with actual content (hopefully) this evening - work is hectic because I took last weekend off (please play your small violins for me)

Still no real strong reads on anyone, but I'm going to Reread the thread with Persephone's idea of Fykus as scum in mind.

[fferyllt]

King Cankles and GensingTea have been prodded.

[King Cankles]

I'm awake I'm awake usually pretty slow D1.

[fferyllt]

aaand