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In post 39, the worst wrote: I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

this is true.

i'm giving Brawl my 10 and Deas's opening was super scum for no other reason than the "i want to be liked here" vibe.

actually can't decide if i like the worst's reaction to it or Deas's post itself less.

regarding Cheet's roleclaim, i wonder about claiming a BP at all. i can see the intent is "vote me as most popular so i can use my ability" which i even if i don't particularly like it.

If it helps at all my opening posts were rvs level content

In post 50, Chara wrote:

In post 39, the worst wrote: I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

this is true.

i'm giving Brawl my 10 and Deas's opening was super scum for no other reason than the "i want to be liked here" vibe.

Being liked is nice though

And I want to make things fun because too often mafia gets super intense and serious and I don't want to be about that here!

Fire, I am torn.

I don't know whether to interpret your opening as town wanting to get stuck into the game and promote a scumhunting vibe, or whether to interpret it as scum trying hard to look town by doing "work" when everyone else was just joking around.

In post 51, Chara wrote:regarding Cheet's roleclaim

Since the evidence is already there for those who care to look, I should clarify I am not in fact Cheetory. That's my role. As the winner of the SUPP 2017, I was given some fun toys, namely the conditional BP and modified vote weight.

In post 37, TehBrawlGuy wrote:anyway help me sort the bolded players who I haven't played with in a while/ever
3. Punreader

You've played with me? This is news to me.

In post 26, Espeonage wrote:This early, with the aim to increase public knowledge, yeah. It's town points.

No, not really. It's a fine starting point of discussion regardless of alignment.

In post 11, Shoshin wrote:Scum'll probably lie either way, though.

Sure, but the results of the night will haunt them for the rest of the game.

As players are revealed town, their results are revealed as accurate.

Off of the results, off of who ended up being eliminated, this can help us narrow in on players that were less-than-truthful.

Either way, the results help town if claimed immediately and reasons for why are given.

If the pun tell the truth, their stances need to be believable while still having furthered their wincon (we can use this in punhunting/townhunting); if the pun lie, their stances need to not only be believable but also not allow them to be in the lie.

In post 55, Punreader wrote:No, not really. It's a fine starting point of discussion regardless of alignment.

I always find it a bit strange when someone disagrees with a townread on them.

In post 56, DeasVail wrote:

In post 55, Punreader wrote:No, not really. It's a fine starting point of discussion regardless of alignment.

I always find it a bit strange when someone disagrees with a townread on them.

Odd, I've always found it a bit strange when someone disagree with a townread on them when they know the reasoning used is flawed.

The confidence in the fact that the reasoning is flawed is the strange part. Because if we have complete knowledge in what we would and wouldn't do as town vs. scum, and how we would and wouldn't act, then as mafia we'd be able to perfectly replicate how we would act as town, leaving the whole notion of scumhunting pointless.

But I'm getting carried away.

I think your response is fair. But I don't particularly like it from an alignment perspective.

In post 55, Punreader wrote:

In post 37, TehBrawlGuy wrote:anyway help me sort the bolded players who I haven't played with in a while/ever
3. Punreader

You've played with me? This is news to me.

yeah don't you remem-

In post 55, Punreader wrote:

In post 51, Chara wrote:regarding Cheet's roleclaim

I should clarify I am not in fact

the scummer

Cheetory.

fuck

For the record, I highly suggest we do not claim the scummer our role is based off of. Set-ups in this style often have things that operate based on role identities.

In post 36, TehBrawlGuy wrote:

In post 35, Espeonage wrote:T_T

How do you know the truth?

my role is wang swinger

i can check one person each day

at night I can target someone and swing my wang at them - whoever's is smaller dies

Sounds like you need to not swing it at night, you will kill yourself within the first night if you do.

Also I would CC this claim if I believed this wouldn't turn into a cock fight.

In post 39, the worst wrote:wang vig best roleclaim ever

Maria is always scum (but really I don't think I'm good at reading her without associations). Also got minor experience with town!Espe, town!Vaxk, town!Dunnstral and town!Chara kinda but probably not enough to read them accurately.

I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

pedit: I shit on everything but you, you're too pretty. <3

Townie post by the worst.

In post 46, PenguinPower wrote:It's important that you all rate me highly. Both for my self-esteem, and for town.

I will rate you highly if you rate me highly. Call it tic for tac. Also got any specific thoughts on anyone Penguin?

If we were going to go for a date at night, where would you like to go?

In post 47, the worst wrote:GREETINGS EMISSARY OF THE PENGUIN PRINCIPALITY

Ducks and Penguins forming alliances is a terrifying thing. Could you perhaps engage in trade wars instead?

In post 49, Chara wrote:

In post 26, Espeonage wrote:This early, with the aim to increase public knowledge, yeah. It's town points.

i don't agree with really any part of this but it kind of makes me want to townread Espeon. just a little.

and hi Fire! <3

Hello Chara.
I would ask you if I can pocket you, but I am kind of bored of the whole "let me pocket you!" and the "how can I get you to scumread me?".

Put me as null for now.

Also, how has the job been?

In post 53, DeasVail wrote:

In post 50, Chara wrote:

In post 39, the worst wrote: I've also heard Chara is like really really towny as town fwiw

this is true.

i'm giving Brawl my 10 and Deas's opening was super scum for no other reason than the "i want to be liked here" vibe.

Being liked is nice though

And I want to make things fun because too often mafia gets super intense and serious and I don't want to be about that here!

This is the kind of attitude I think scum usually take to when they get scum.
But the way its done and by person, probably means nothing?

Actually I like the response the more I think of, it does say something I think could be a scum kind of feels bad about having to be a dirty scum but is established in a less about guilt.

In post 51, Chara wrote:actually can't decide if i like the worst's reaction to it or Deas's post itself less.

regarding Cheet's roleclaim, i wonder about claiming a BP at all. i can see the intent is "vote me as most popular so i can use my ability" which i

understand

even if i don't particularly like it.

Chara is townie.

In post 52, the worst wrote:If it helps at all my opening posts were rvs level content

Downplaying ones own alignement indicative posts is a townie sign. More town points for the worst.

I am already forming a town league!
I feel almost good about these to town block.

Almost.

Town-
The Worst
Chara
Shis

In post 54, DeasVail wrote:Fire, I am torn.

I don't know whether to interpret your opening as town wanting to get stuck into the game and promote a scumhunting vibe, or whether to interpret it as scum trying hard to look town by doing "work" when everyone else was just joking around.

Its neither.
I am not scumhunting for the first thing, I am townhunting. Which is focused on taking people out of the lynch pool and focus on ensuring that these people are highest degree of accuracy.

I also have an attitude of trying to always be "into" the game for when I get into games. So doing anything for appearances is not something I care about.

I don't like this analysis of "looking like doing work", but I have found I get this almost any game I play. So it can be town but is really lazy interpretations of actions.

In post 61, Fire Assassin wrote:Hello Chara.
I would ask you if I can pocket you, but I am kind of bored of the whole "let me pocket you!" and the "how can I get you to scumread me?".

Put me as null for now.

Also, how has the job been?

well, you're Assassin anyway, so i'm not expecting to read you like i read your main.
null it is. for now.

the job's been as fine as customer service can be. :> that is to say, mediocre but manageable.

In post 64, Fire Assassin wrote:

In post 54, DeasVail wrote:Fire, I am torn.

I don't know whether to interpret your opening as town wanting to get stuck into the game and promote a scumhunting vibe, or whether to interpret it as scum trying hard to look town by doing "work" when everyone else was just joking around.

Its neither.
I am not scumhunting for the first thing, I am townhunting. Which is focused on taking people out of the lynch pool and focus on ensuring that these people are highest degree of accuracy.

I also have an attitude of trying to always be "into" the game for when I get into games. So doing anything for appearances is not something I care about.

I don't like this analysis of "looking like doing work", but I have found I get this almost any game I play. So it can be town but is really lazy interpretations of actions.

I think you're probably town from your subsequent posting, don't worry.

Yo DV why you townreading my scum read?

Why do you scumread him?

espeYOnage why you scumreading DV's townread?

pedit: l0l gr8 minds

I wanna hear why you townread his flurry of posts btw

I liked the way that he presented his thoughts in 62 and I like the combination of his in-game townhunting approach while also engaging in non-game related conversation.

Just initial thoughts for me and not a lock by any means, but I'm interested in why Espe would scumread him.

In post 64, Fire Assassin wrote:Its neither.
I am not scumhunting for the first thing, I am townhunting. Which is focused on taking people out of the lynch pool and focus on ensuring that these people are highest degree of accuracy.

The indignant approach here was also pretty townie imo

he scum bc he being arbitrary.

Either that or I am completely blind to what he is seeing.

It's page 3 and the start of d1. If you're not seeing what he's seeing throw me some contrary opinions or some kind of read of your own?