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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:52 pm
by jjh927

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:11 pm
by zMuffinMan
need to get around dns filter to view those at work and can't be bothered

and my phone is like 50cm away from me atm

should i reach over to click those links?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:20 pm
by zMuffinMan
i live in a good country so i dont know much about gerrymandering

what are the arguments for it over pure democratic vote?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:33 pm
by jjh927
I'm UK

The true art of this game is the not-so-subtle-but-enveloped-in-a-mafia-game-so-you're-not-looking-for-it commentary on the American political system though

Worth noting that the electoral college system is plagued by gerrymandering. It's unquestionably a bad thing for democracy for exactly the reasons that it gives scum an edge in this game. Just, in real life it's the political elite who do the gerrymandering.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:41 pm
by zMuffinMan
if it's such a bad thing with so many issues that are that obvious, what are the arguments for it?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:42 pm
by zMuffinMan
i suppose i could google it but effort

plus i don't really care beyond mild interest in knowing why it exists if it's so apparently bad

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:53 pm
by jjh927
A quick google on your behalf gives you this

It pretty much just goes back to America's founding fathers though and nobody would change it because the system kinda benefits the two parties of the two party system which will probably never relinquish the power it gives them

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:58 pm
by jjh927
Thisis pretty funky too

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:01 pm
by jjh927
You might be thinking "Gee, jjh927 sure is talking out of his ass. Nobody's changing the borders of places" but it's the way these things were originally set up and general political sentiment tied to locations still carries from hundreds of years ago

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:06 pm
by zMuffinMan
i can understand -some- argument for an electoral college system existing (even if outdated), but i don't understand the gerrymandering part

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:16 pm
by jjh927
Gerrymandering is just a general thing with any kind of regional based voting system

From wikipedia:
The word gerrymander (originally written Gerry-mander) was used for the first time in the Boston Gazette on 26 March 1812. The word was created in reaction to a redrawing of Massachusetts state senate election districts under Governor Elbridge Gerry (/ˈɡɛri/; 1744–1814). In 1812, Governor Gerry signed a bill that redistricted Massachusetts to benefit his Democratic-Republican Party. When mapped, one of the contorted districts in the Boston area was said to resemble the shape of a mythological salamander.[6]


There is no argument for it being a good thing and to my knowledge it doesn't happen in America any more. It's just a thing that some people in positions of power do to secure more power

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:39 pm
by jjh927
BTW, let's just have another look at the game because I haven't analysed the districts for today in here yet and things are heating up now

I should really post the party allegiances next time I can get a pagetop too

Let's colourcode party allegiances on the districts as well as alignments for funsies
SNK☆TUFATMLIOSP Party - SNK

Lynch Scum Day One Party - LSDOP

mutante Party - MP

Shit Posting Party - SPP

Bull Moose Party - BMP




Central Park

123456789
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MP

Firebringer
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SPP

Invisibility
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SNK

Ausuka
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LSDOP


Mayfair Club

ofrhz
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MP

Not Known 15
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MP

Ruby Red
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LSDOP


Turns out I'm an idiot lol.

Hebichan
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LSDOP

Myloninja13
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SPP

skitter30
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MP

Aronis
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BMP


Coney Island

Ruby Red
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LSDOP

Wraith
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SPP

Blind Bandits
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LSDOP


Theme Park

the worst
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SNK

Tazaro
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BMP

mutantdevle
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MP

Whemestar
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SPP





Party allegiances:

Party NameParty LeaderOther Members
SNK☆TUFATMLIOSPthe worstInvisibility
Lynch Scum Day One PartyRuby RedAusuka; Blind Bandits; hebichan
mutante Partymutantdevle123456789; skitter30; Not Known 15; ofrhz
Shit Posting PartyWhemestarMyloninja13; Wraith; Firebringer
Bull Moose PartyAronisTazaro
Unaligned-----Nobody!

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:39 pm
by Eddie Cane
jj told me to read something i didnt read

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:42 pm
by jjh927
I told you to read it because it was gold

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:46 pm
by Eddie Cane
ms doesnt load on my mobile network man i think its flagged

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 4:49 pm
by jjh927
Damn those districts

The 3 person ones are easy to call
The 4 person ones are all 4 people of different parties

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:31 am
by zMuffinMan
i wonder why ausuka claimed 2-shot

most people i know would have claimed 1-shot i think - or not claimed their actual role if they even claimed at all

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:24 pm
by jjh927
lmao that fakeclaim


As if I'd ever put a 3rd party in this game

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:34 pm
by zMuffinMan
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how obnoxious

who would use a rainbow text generator, large font and comic sans text to write something in a mafia game?

that is certainly something i would never do

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:25 am
by zMuffinMan
tbh i am surprised people think claiming third party as scum is a good idea

you always lynch third party claims sooner rather than later because (1) they have no incentive to help town unless it suits them (it may now, it may not later), and (2) scum fake-claim third party a lot (when they're in trouble)

so it strikes me as odd when i see scum do it because it's basically an "ive given up" last resort hail mary

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 1:27 am
by zMuffinMan
i can't even remember the last time i saw claiming third party work out for scum. i think ive seen it work once or twice ever

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:09 pm
by zMuffinMan
gotta admit some comments _are_ more amusing with spoilers
In post 1331, Myloninja13 wrote:Wait, why is Aronis more likely to be president than the very likely town president Whemestar?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:33 pm
by jjh927
Wow that was a terrible district rename

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:08 pm
by zMuffinMan
wouldnt fault you for modkilling him

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:09 pm
by zMuffinMan
most would say he deserves it