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Oh fuck I forgot this started
I was gonna vote Dannflor to complete the triangle of voting but he moved his vote
VOTE: Dannflor anyway for ruining it

In post 14, Mewtaph wrote:Interesting choice of game theme.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Having an SK in a mini normal is not within guidelines though, so that's definitely out.

btw this is correct, SK and multiball are banned in minis and this is technically Micro sized so that goes extra
This kind of spec pissed me off in the pre-designed Micro normal I ran so I want to reinforce it with titanium

I am not interested in any of the discussion that has happened as of yet.

Yea oops, probably should've figured they wouldn't be allowed in games this small.

mbaki, would you like to try and create interesting discussion or are you just waiting for others to do that

If the game was stagnant I would attempt to create content, but the game is active enough for a 9 player lobby on this site. I am just not interested in any of the content so far, nor does any of it really help me generate reads. No point shutting down activity that's helping you guys, even if I can't engage in it.

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VC

VOTE COUNT:

Mewtaph:

bristep123, mbaki

Gamma Emerald:

podoboq

Doughboy:

Dannflor, Mewtaph, LolWagons

LolWagons:

Doughboy

Dannflor:

Gamma Emerald

No Vote:

Xtoxm

With 9 alive it takes 5 to Lynch.

Time Remaining:

(expired on 2018-12-27 19:05:03)

Every one is in!

I regret signing up for so many games

In post 25, Dannflor wrote:The more information town has the better the chance there is at finding scum, as deception is harder the more information is on the board.

This is just explicitly wrong. The logical conclusion of this statement is that town should all claim immediately, because the more information town has the better. Concealing information from scum is also a factor, and Mewtaph's intro into this game is extremely sloppy if it's town play.

In post 26, bristep123 wrote:not sure that's 100% true, some read behavior rather than content. Good players (and I am not in any way claiming to be one) don't need walls of text to root out scum.

Townreading this.

Mewtaph's posts do not pass a Turing test.

VOTE: Mewtaph

Which makes it L-1

Townreading a strategic discussion comment that is completely separate of the game, Podo?

UNVOTE:

Alright, not confident enough to leave Mewtaph at L-1.

VOTE: Podoboq

You may place your vote back as it is no longer l-1!

In post 61, mbaki wrote:Townreading a strategic discussion comment that is completely separate of the game, Podo?

Decent scum could have just stayed quiet and let them continue to spin out.

In post 63, mbaki wrote:VOTE: Podoboq

You may place your vote back as it is no longer l-1!

Thanks

VOTE: Mewtaph

Glad I could help.

In post 58, podoboq wrote:This is just explicitly wrong. The logical conclusion of this statement is that town should all claim immediately, because the more information town has the better. Concealing information from scum is also a factor, and Mewtaph's intro into this game is extremely sloppy if it's town play.

You're right, I was being too general. I meant to imply that the more content/opinions generated the more town has to work with. Obviously everything can't be out in the open, but there's a reason sharing reads (by all players) is helpful to the town.

Also, why is Mewtaph's intro sloppy if he's town? What information does does he give away that he shouldn't?

In post 54, mbaki wrote:If the game was stagnant I would attempt to create content, but the game is active enough for a 9 player lobby on this site. I am just not interested in any of the content so far, nor does any of it really help me generate reads. No point shutting down activity that's helping you guys, even if I can't engage in it.

Can you explain why:
a) you aren't interested in the content
b) why it doesn't help you generate reads
c) why you can't engage with it

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10612320#p10612320]post 68[/url], Thespio wrote:

In post 60, LolWagons wrote:

@Mod I’m voting Mewtaph

Which makes it L-1

I have decided not to count your vote as it doesn’t meet the requirements. Please use ‘Vote:’ to make it official

Are you fucking with me? It was in bold per the rules. Does missing the colon really mean it doesn't count? Yikes.

VOTE: Mewtaph

In post 69, LolWagons wrote:

In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10612320#p10612320]post 68[/url], Thespio wrote:

In post 60, LolWagons wrote:

@Mod I’m voting Mewtaph

Which makes it L-1

I have decided not to count your vote as it doesn’t meet the requirements. Please use ‘Vote:’ to make it official

Are you fucking with me? It was in bold per the rules. Does missing the colon really mean it doesn't count? Yikes.

VOTE: Mewtaph

In post 59, podoboq wrote:Mewtaph's posts do not pass a Turing test.

VOTE: Mewtaph

Can you explain the reason behind this vote in a more digestible way?

Okay, been rereading and going through various people's ISOs to try and put everything together in my head and my impressions are:

- Mewtaph and lolwagons feel town. Both did their part in moving the game out of RVS, and I thought reacted well when pressure was applied to them. That whole feud/debate/whatever feels very town vs. town.
- Doughboy's kinda null until he posts anything relevant. Actually, no one else has posted enough of substance for me to have anything more than vague gut feelings on except for...

In post 62, podoboq wrote:UNVOTE:

Alright, not confident enough to leave Mewtaph at L-1.

I really really hate this post the more I look at it.

In post 58, podoboq wrote:Mewtaph's intro into this game is extremely sloppy if it's town play.

In post 59, podoboq wrote:Mewtaph's posts do not pass a Turing test.

These both read as incredibly confident that Mewtaph's play is scummy, though I echo Mewtaph's question on what the Turing test comment means exactly. Yet, he immediately backs off as soon as he realizes he accidentally put Mewtaph at L-1? If podoboq believes Mewtaph's play is "extremely sloppy" at best and scummy at worst, what is the harm in applying even more pressure to him and seeing how he reacts? Where's the negative? This reads as scum realizing they made a mistake, and being scared of town seeing them as too brazen or gungho about a lynch that will flip town—not wanting to be who puts someone at L-1—and instead fence-sitting because that feels less dangerous or less in the spotlight.

This whole issue is exacerbated by the fact of him jumping right back on the wagon when mbaki unvotes. Clearly he wants to push the wagon, he just doesn't want to be the one who puts him at L-1 because that draws too much attention.

Podoboq, do you seriously believe someone is going to quick hammer 3 pages in and with 10 days left on the clock?

UNVOTE: Doughboy
VOTE: podoboq

He didn't put mewtaph at L1, Lolwagons did and podoboq unvoted it back to L2. Not that it totally discredits your arguement but it's a distinction worth making.

True. The point is he was under the impression he'd just put Mewtaph at L-1.